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(Times Argus) Amusing Having solved all other issues, Vermont lawmakers debate whether citizens have the right to dry their clothes outside. In other news, it gets warm enough in Vermont to hang clothes   (timesargus.com) divider line 80
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lordargent 2009-02-21 03:43:32 PM  
Freeze dried

 
Man On Fire 2009-02-21 03:44:26 PM  
OMG GLOBAL WARMING

 
sleep lack 2009-02-21 03:44:45 PM  
USA is soooo farked if you have to argue the case for this.

 
Tourney3p0 2009-02-21 03:45:20 PM  
Haha. I've never been outside my home city and have no idea what happens elsewhere either.

 
Lawnchair 2009-02-21 03:45:51 PM  
Ten minutes at the line before work and ten minutes afterwards, sun on my face, is my moment of Zen. Sometimes with NPR or MP3s, but usually with nothing but the birds and the sound of the train. Saving 50 cents in electricity per dryer load is minor in comparison.

I always wondered how the clothesline become the universal symbol of poverty. Every single time you see a "look, they're poor" moment in a film or TV show, the clothesline is the trope. Is it just because it's visually interesting? A symbol of someone who isn't going to an office or factory 12 hours a day?

Give a housewife in a barrio or favela a catalog of 100 modern marvels and any kind of energy budget, and I have to think the tumble dryer would come in at about #98, right above the electric can opener. Yes, they use clotheslines. They work. Just fine. Very simply. Very easily. Just because the poorest of the poor use them, does not mean we can't use them as well.

And, yes, it does work just fine on a sunny and/or breezy day, even sub-freezing.

 
Tony_Pepperoni 2009-02-21 03:50:05 PM  
I only use the drier when it's raining outside.

 
enjoyduff 2009-02-21 03:52:16 PM  
Where would you hang the fabric softener sheets?

 
AuCinaoaMie 2009-02-21 03:53:00 PM  
No you cannot use sunlight, you must use the electricity or natural gas we provide you.

WTF? Whats next, telling people what to read, how to think, and what to believe? Oh wait, that is the media and religion...

 
lakteller30 2009-02-21 03:53:39 PM  
our lovely tax dollars at work....geeesh

 
fritton 2009-02-21 03:54:16 PM  
It generally is ugly as hell to see everybodies wet undies hanging on some rope outside, but come on... how much right do you think you have to litigate against things you simply "don't like"?

Everyone thinks they have a right to legislate against their own personal pet peeves, no matter how harmless it actually is.

The world needs to grow up a little bit...or at least this country does.

 
Apikores 2009-02-21 03:54:18 PM  
testing 123

 
BlorfMaster 2009-02-21 03:54:18 PM  
In florida if you hang your clothes out to dry, you bring entire species back into the house with you.

 
beoswulf 2009-02-21 03:54:24 PM  
Tony_Pepperoni: I only use the drier when it's raining outside.

That's pretty much memories I have from a kid, can't wash clothes if it's raining out. Now if I lived in the countryside full time I'd probably want to rig up a clothes line that monitors the weather report and can automatically retract into the garage or something.

 
Kevin72 2009-02-21 03:55:43 PM  
Clothesline drying is big in Japan. I did it when I lived there. Demo takusan ame arimashiata.

 
robmilmel [TotalFark] 2009-02-21 03:57:08 PM  
beoswulf: lothes line that monitors the weather

If it's wet, it's raining...etc.

 
vudukungfu 2009-02-21 03:57:29 PM  
I live in vermont and my clothes are haning up outside now.
They smell great when I put them away.

 
Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach 2009-02-21 03:58:21 PM  
Lawnchair: Ten minutes at the line before work and ten minutes afterwards, sun on my face, is my moment of Zen. Sometimes with NPR or MP3s, but usually with nothing but the birds and the sound of the train. Saving 50 cents in electricity per dryer load is minor in comparison.

I always wondered how the clothesline become the universal symbol of poverty. Every single time you see a "look, they're poor" moment in a film or TV show, the clothesline is the trope. Is it just because it's visually interesting? A symbol of someone who isn't going to an office or factory 12 hours a day?

Give a housewife in a barrio or favela a catalog of 100 modern marvels and any kind of energy budget, and I have to think the tumble dryer would come in at about #98, right above the electric can opener. Yes, they use clotheslines. They work. Just fine. Very simply. Very easily. Just because the poorest of the poor use them, does not mean we can't use them as well.

And, yes, it does work just fine on a sunny and/or breezy day, even sub-freezing.


I am moving to a place on Wednesday that has clotheslines. They are still hooked to the metal posts that were installed in 1948. I can't wait to load up A Prairie Home Companion and do laundry now.

I do wonder how Vermonters get through their yards. I visited once and the state appears to be entirely made out of mud. Deep, heavy, impossible mud. Unless it's winter, then the mud apparently freezes..

 
NeauxFear [TotalFark] 2009-02-21 03:58:44 PM  
BlorfMaster: In florida if you hang your clothes out to dry, you bring entire species back into the house with you.

Oh yeah? Try to line-dry clothes in south Louisiana; they'll come off the line wetter than when they went on.

 
katfairy 2009-02-21 04:01:10 PM  
I hang-dry my clothes all the time. I don't see what the big deal is, or why people would make a fuss over this. Another reason not to live in one of those snooty pre-fab yuppievilles, I guess.

Hell, when the weather's right, you can get clothes dry on the line in less time than the drier would take. Warm, dry, and windy- ten minutes on the line and you're good to go.

Loved the bit in TFA about urging people to line-dry clothes as an act of civil disobedience. The best of those always makes the counter-protesters look like whiny little biatches, if not complete and utter farktards.

 
biggbossman 2009-02-21 04:04:48 PM  
We didn't have a dryer when I was a kid. In the wintertime Mom would hang clothes in the basement and the heat from the furnace would dry them rather quickly. She also used cloth diapers which she washed in a separate hot water bleach wash and hung them up. The only time we bought Pampers was when we went on vacation.

 
This text is now purple 2009-02-21 04:06:04 PM  
Lawnchair: Ten minutes at the line before work and ten minutes afterwards, sun on my face, is my moment of Zen. Sometimes with NPR or MP3s, but usually with nothing but the birds and the sound of the train. Saving 50 cents in electricity per dryer load is minor in comparison.

I always wondered how the clothesline become the universal symbol of poverty. Every single time you see a "look, they're poor" moment in a film or TV show, the clothesline is the trope. Is it just because it's visually interesting? A symbol of someone who isn't going to an office or factory 12 hours a day?

Give a housewife in a barrio or favela a catalog of 100 modern marvels and any kind of energy budget, and I have to think the tumble dryer would come in at about #98, right above the electric can opener. Yes, they use clotheslines. They work. Just fine. Very simply. Very easily. Just because the poorest of the poor use them, does not mean we can't use them as well.

And, yes, it does work just fine on a sunny and/or breezy day, even sub-freezing.


Admittedly, the drier wasn't the miracle the washing machine was, but it's a ton more versatile than a clothes line. You can dry in any weather, at any time, with more privacy, more cleanliness (no smoke, no soot, no dirt, etc), and more speed.

If no one thought the things were useful, they never would have become so popular.

 
worthlessjuan 2009-02-21 04:06:29 PM  
In some of the places I've been that had electricity and not much else, the "houses" were one or two open rooms, no doors, no windows, several hammocks and what else? They almost always has a propane stove, a propane or electric dryer and a TV. No washers, just dryers. The stove and TV, obvious.

Lots of sun and breeze and trees for hanging. It may have had to do with the island or coastal humidity or the sometimes unpleasant and penetrating aromas that come from primal jungle/wetlands/undeveloped land.

Never asked, just wondered.

 
Killer Cars [TotalFark] 2009-02-21 04:06:38 PM  
Vermont is mostly so rural it's perfect for hanging your stuff outside on a clothesline. Who's going to see your Hello Kitty boxers or SpongeBob underoos?

 
SlothB77 2009-02-21 04:08:48 PM  
i haven't used a clothes line in the past 15 years. I doubt i will use one again, but never say never!

 
Fano 2009-02-21 04:11:02 PM  
In other news, lawmakers have the authority to rule on this.

 
Captain Horatio Mindblower 2009-02-21 04:11:10 PM  
When US servicemembers are paying with their lives for our oil supply, it's farked up that some municipalities forbid energy-efficient clotheslines.

/So this is a good law.
//And anyway, states can't solve their issues one at a time.
///So subby is an idiot.

 
vudukungfu 2009-02-21 04:15:32 PM  
Contents of a Space Wasp's stomach:

I do wonder how Vermonters get through their yards. I visited once and the state appears to be entirely made out of mud. Deep, heavy, impossible mud. Unless it's winter, then the mud apparently freezes..


You should visit when we are having a high wind and mud storms.

 
AR55 2009-02-21 04:16:28 PM  
My family has always used a clothesline for as long as I can remember. Are people that stuck up about them?

/face palm.

 
vudukungfu 2009-02-21 04:17:15 PM  
katfairy: The best of those always makes the counter-protesters look like whiny little biatches, if not complete and utter farktards.

You mean flatlanders.

 
ha-ha-guy 2009-02-21 04:17:23 PM  
I tend to hang up heavy coats, pillows, etc that would take multiple cycles through the dryer. I run them through the spin cycle twice to get the worst out, then toss them up on a line and let the breeze do the rest. Otherwise dryer normally works well.

I'm honestly lazy, I want a washing machine that is front load and when it is done teh bottom opens, drops the clothing right into the dryer below it, and the dryer automatically kicks on. Hell while I'm dreaming, the laundry chute feeds right into the washing machine, the machine detects when it is full, kicks on and does everything.

 
vudukungfu 2009-02-21 04:22:15 PM  
ha-ha-guy:

When my neighbor and I were designing his houe, I made him put a laundry chute in the bathroom that went right to the washing machine lid. You can leave the lid open or put a basket on it.
One wife and a kids later, he's still thanking me.
She is lazy and the kid poops a lot.

 
The last name I had was pretty gay... 2009-02-21 04:23:01 PM  
Captain Horatio Mindblower: When US servicemembers are paying with their lives for our oil supply, it's farked up that some municipalities forbid energy-efficient clotheslines.

/So this is a good law.
//And anyway, states can't solve their issues one at a time.
///So subby is an idiot.


Welcome to FARK, subby!


www.smh.com.au

 
Melquiades [TotalFark] 2009-02-21 04:23:12 PM  
Vermont - the other, smaller Wisconsin!

 
TheSwissNavy 2009-02-21 04:29:05 PM  
The article mentions that some towns - apparently outside of Vermont - ban clotheslines.

Where did the government get the power to ban clotheslines ?

How much more sheeplike can Americans get. Idiots.

 
betona 2009-02-21 04:29:36 PM  
They'll dry just fine in winter. They might freeze up, but not for long.

 
carniemechanic 2009-02-21 04:31:10 PM  
I work a fair in Essex Junction (North of Burlington) in September, and the weather is great. It is odd that a state where one can legally leave the house and walk around in public, without a stitch of clothes, might outlaw line drying them. Vermont is a strange place.

 
Nogale 2009-02-21 04:35:12 PM  
carniemechanic: I work a fair in Essex Junction (North of Burlington) in September, and the weather is great.

Well, yeah. Northern New England is September-October? Paradise.

 
katfairy 2009-02-21 04:38:05 PM  
vudukungfu: katfairy: The best of those always makes the counter-protesters look like whiny little biatches, if not complete and utter farktards.

You mean flatlanders.


Yeah, them. Seriously, what kind of anal-retentive self-important git is freaked out by clotheslines>

 
Nemo's Brother 2009-02-21 04:53:39 PM  
Liberals are so funny. They truly believe that they have the right to dictate every minute aspect of your life.

 
CaesarSneezy 2009-02-21 04:58:58 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Liberals are so funny. They truly believe that they have the right to dictate every minute aspect of your life.

So you must have heard about the Republicans wanting you to keep logs of your internet activity...

 
rewind2846 2009-02-21 04:59:35 PM  
katfairy: vudukungfu: katfairy: The best of those always makes the counter-protesters look like whiny little biatches, if not complete and utter farktards.

You mean flatlanders.

Yeah, them. Seriously, what kind of anal-retentive self-important git is freaked out by clotheslines>


The type of anal-retentive self-important git who threatens to put a lien on your McMansion because in page 17, paragraph 6, subsection 22 of your homeowners' association agreement, if you have more than ten (10) blades of grass hanging over the sidewalk in front of your house there will be a fine imposed of $100 per blade per day until it is trimmed back to within specifications.

Clotheslines get you a firing squad.

HOAs can suck my sack.

 
cryinoutloud [TotalFark] 2009-02-21 05:03:48 PM  
When it becomes illegal to line-dry clothes, I'm going to be an OUTLAW.

/Never owned a dryer.

 
CLEARLY I'm evil 2009-02-21 05:04:53 PM  
Captain Horatio Mindblower: When US servicemembers are paying with their lives for our oil supply, it's farked up that some municipalities forbid energy-efficient clotheslines.

/So this is a good law.
//And anyway, states can't solve their issues one at a time.
///So subby is an idiot.



The fact that there's even a debate or a law about it is the problem.

 
Lawnchair 2009-02-21 05:11:09 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Liberals are so funny. They truly believe that they have the right to dictate every minute aspect of your life.

Huh?

Trust me, it's not liberals who seek to ban clotheslines. It's incredibly uptight "my home is an investment" suburban HOA dwellers. Check who they vote for some time. It ain't the liberals. These are the people who elected Michelle Bachmann.

Meanwhile, Vermont's law that clotheslines can't be banned by busybody communities does not dictate a bit of your life. Unless you want to make the argument that because the 1st Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, it's dictating your life.

 
coco ebert [TotalFark] 2009-02-21 05:12:27 PM  
I just want to say that I hope I never live in a society where clothesline drying is not allowed because freshly dried clothing is one of life's simple pleasures, up there with dog kisses, rose smelling, and morning coffee.

/Really.

 
swamp_of_dumb 2009-02-21 05:27:43 PM  
Vermont: We're trying to make the rest of the Northeast look like a libertarian paradise one stupid law at a time.

/too long?

 
Raymo853 2009-02-21 05:34:07 PM  
I assume this is NECESSARY since so many home owners associations and local municipalities love to ban drying clothing out side.

 
Jeffro619 2009-02-21 05:35:25 PM  
I have tried drying my clothes outside while living in South Korea. It sucks. The clothes get hard and it makes me itch. When I lived in New Zealand I really had no problem with hanging my clothes out, but there is something about the air here that makes it different...my socks don't seem to shrink back to normal and the neck of my shirts feel like they are looser after every wash. I miss the dryer!

 
Rehab Man 2009-02-21 05:42:45 PM  
bird poop stained clothes anyone?

 
kbloy 2009-02-21 05:51:57 PM  
When we moved into our house we had a clothesline in the backyard.
Unfortunately, the old (iron?) clothesline is rusted in spots and various stinging insects that I am deathly allergic to nest inside the bars all summer long. I wanted to pull them down permanently and free up about 15 feet in our small backyard.
Now I'm starting to wonder if we can buy a newer clothesline where bugs won't nest to use during southern Wisconsin's late-spring through early autumn drying season.

 
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