Well, did he? I've always wondered if that was actually possible.

"Nigel is a very nice young man," Wilson told FOX16 News Thursday. "He says 'yes sir, no sir' and he was just doing what anybody would do in that situation, on or off the job."

I'm not touching this...

Stay Cool Babylon: "Nigel is a very nice young man," Wilson told FOX16 News Thursday. "He says 'yes sir, no sir' and he was just doing what anybody would do in that situation, on or off the job."

I'm not touching this...

This is one of those situations where the company should pony up because of the positive press this had to get the McDonalds.

so....it's the official position of the McDonald's corporation and it's affiliates that employees cannot render aid to customers who are assaulted on the premises?

that's great if i'm a murderer. not so great if i'm the murderee.

Weaver95: so....it's the official position of the McDonald's corporation and it's affiliates that employees cannot render aid to customers who are assaulted on the premises?

that's great if i'm a murderer. not so great if i'm the murderee.

I sort of doubt his thought process involved any analysis whatsoever as to whether he would be compensated for any potential injuries and resultant medical bills if he was harmed while rendering aid.

What? What? McDonald's is not a kind and fuzzy organization? It relentlessly exploits its employees? Who'da thunk?

Here's my understanding of the situation:

1) A guy starts beating his girl at McDonalds (what a winner!)
2) Selfless McDonalds employee breaks up fight, shoos guy out
3) Guy shoots McDonalds employee three times on McDonalds premises
4) Employee applies for workman's comp
5) Insurance company says it doesn't count because he is supposed to do nothing in the case of a robbery.

I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine a precedent for an abusive relationship being asserted as a robbery. It sounds to me like someone at the insurance company got a little overzealous and didn't realize that his attempt to swindle a register jockey would turn into a PR clusterfark.

You would have heard about this sooner, but here in Arkansas we were too busy passing legislation that lets people carry guns into churches.

To those who aren't bothering to fully read the article, it is not McDonald's that is denying him. His own manager has said that he hopes the wounded employee gets paid. It is the insurance company that is saying no.

"We've denied this claim in its entirety, it's our opinion that Mr. Haskett's injuries did not arise out of or within the course of his employment," a portion of the statement reads.

There is a VERY special room in Hell reserved for douchebags like you, Ms Thompson. I just wanted you to know that. Hopefully the next time YOU are waiting in line for an Egg Mcmuffin some psycho starts wailing on YOU, maybe with a tire iron. Hopefully the people behind the counter will just walk away, after all, the insurance carrier won't pay.

/Poetic justice at it's finest

The main purpose of workman's comp is to guarantee payment even if the employee does something wrong. He gets a standard rate for his injuries which may (will) be less than a sympathetic jury would award to a good lawyer, but he gets it without having to sue and without having to prove that the employer was responsible for the injury.

KrunkSplein: I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine a precedent for an abusive relationship being asserted as a robbery. It sounds to me like someone at the insurance company got a little overzealous and didn't realize that his attempt to swindle a register jockey would turn into a PR clusterfark.

It's like THIS and like that and like THIS, yo...
/feeling funky today

If you're a clerk getting six bucks an hour why the hell would you even care about an assault. Call the cops and let them deal with it. It's like when you read about a 7-11 clerk stopping a robbery. Fark that noise, I'd be handing over the register and asking the guy if he wants a few cartons of smokes.

eddyatwork: If you're a clerk getting six bucks an hour why the hell would you even care about an assault. Call the cops and let them deal with it. It's like when you read about a 7-11 clerk stopping a robbery. Fark that noise, I'd be handing over the register and asking the guy if he wants a few cartons of smokes.

Maybe because he isn't a selfish coward who is willing to let someone beat up a woman in front of him? What does how much you make have anything to do with it?

Hollywood Cole: selfish coward

Ok internet tough guy, you tell me why I should get farking shot for some stranger I don't know, especially if I work at a job with no health coverage which means I foot the bill. Screw that noise. You go get 'em tiger!

It's the insurance company that should be under fire, not McDonald's.

The named insurance company in the article Ramsey, Krug, Farrell and Lensing is just an agency for BankCorp South.

Nuggnut.

eddyatwork: Ok internet tough guy, you tell me why I should get farking shot for some stranger I don't know, especially if I work at a job with no health coverage which means I foot the bill. Screw that noise. You go get 'em tiger!

I think the point here is that the job is irrelevant.

Man A saw a woman getting beaten by man B. Man A saves woman from man B. Man A is hero. This is true regardless of what occupation he has.

In a potentially life-or-death struggle where you're trying to decide whether to fight, flee, or hide; employment is kind of the last variable to consider.

Weaver95: so....it's the official position of the McDonald's corporation and it's affiliates that employees cannot render aid to customers who are assaulted on the premises?

that's great if i'm a murderer. not so great if i'm the murderee.

Probably *is* policy of most retail establishments. The official line is likely to call the cops and stay out of it, due to the potential for lawsuitilarity.

If you're a clerk getting six bucks an hour why the hell would you even care about an assault.

Because you're not a sociopath, but instead have basic empathy for another human being?

I'm pretty sure I just fed a troll there, but meh.

McD's should institute a clear policy that employees are not to intervene and must call the cops in these situations. Then when a victim gets savagely beaten in a McD's the next time and said victim sues McD's the insurance company can pay a much bigger lawsuit.

just_dis_guy: Weaver95: so....it's the official position of the McDonald's corporation and it's affiliates that employees cannot render aid to customers who are assaulted on the premises?

that's great if i'm a murderer. not so great if i'm the murderee.

Probably *is* policy of most retail establishments. The official line is likely to call the cops and stay out of it, due to the potential for lawsuitilarity.

It most certainly is. Businesses expect their employees to be passive and to call in the proper authorities. If you get involved, you're pretty likely if they don't fire you because they now consider you a liability.

Nice, McDonalds is all for domestic assault on women. I'm sure Chris Brown and Rihanna will have their next dinner date at McDonalds.

Let this be a lesson to all you young people out there: Never help anyone, regardless of the circumstances

/back under the bridge I go

lajimi: "We've denied this claim in its entirety, it's our opinion that Mr. Haskett's injuries did not arise out of or within the course of his employment," a portion of the statement reads.

There is a VERY special room in Hell reserved for douchebags like you, Ms Thompson. I just wanted you to know that. Hopefully the next time YOU are waiting in line for an Egg Mcmuffin some psycho starts wailing on YOU, maybe with a tire iron. Hopefully the people behind the counter will just walk away, after all, the insurance carrier won't pay.

/Poetic justice at it's finest

I'm guessing that room in hell is right next to the room I'm going to build for people who can't tell ITS from IT IS.

otterrr: just_dis_guy: Weaver95: so....it's the official position of the McDonald's corporation and it's affiliates that employees cannot render aid to customers who are assaulted on the premises?

that's great if i'm a murderer. not so great if i'm the murderee.

Probably *is* policy of most retail establishments. The official line is likely to call the cops and stay out of it, due to the potential for lawsuitilarity.

It most certainly is. Businesses expect their employees to be passive and to call in the proper authorities. If you get involved, you're pretty likely if they don't fire you because they now consider you a liability.

Likely = lucky. Proof-reading > me.

eddyatwork: Hollywood Cole: selfish coward

Ok internet tough guy, you tell me why I should get farking shot for some stranger I don't know, especially if I work at a job with no health coverage which means I foot the bill. Screw that noise. You go get 'em tiger!
You big pussy, hand in your man license, you can keep that pathetic thing you call a cock.

KrunkSplein: I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine a precedent for an abusive relationship being asserted as a robbery. It sounds to me like someone at the insurance company got a little overzealous and didn't realize that his attempt to swindle a register jockey would turn into a PR clusterfark.

Every insurance case is denied the first time. If you have a large claim, you can expect to be denied two or three times by default. Expect it to stay "in review" for months at a time between then to drag it out as long as possible. The idea is to get you to give up and not try again. It's now insurance companies make money - not helping people.

You have to remember, you're dealing with an entire industry's business model is "collect money for services then find ways to fark as many people out of them as possible."

People are starting to learn the quickest way to a settlement isn't to appeal- it's to get the media involved immediately. It saves time, and is generally more productive in the end.

Here is where the "all duties assigned" clause will hit back at the employer. I am sure SOMEWHERE it is written/told to provide and safe & enjoyable environment for customers. He was doing his job because a person was not being robbed, but assaulted. The employee chose to follow what was said in the guidelines.

Now, to be fair, nowhere in the article does it say McDonald's told this guy to go fark himself.

Probably said "fark".

/Farking farkers.
//Farkity fark fark fark
///Filtered slashies for the farkin' win!

Oh i am not an internet tough guy. I just think it is wrong when a man beats on a woman and gets away with it when there are others around that could stop it.

If the guy had the gun out while beating on that chick then yeah fark that. But he didn't know he was going to get shot. He just knew that he saw something completely wrong and he felt the need to end it. He did the right thing by intervening. Sometimes people actually sacrifice themselves for other people without a second thought and those people should be applauded.

Heffaloo: To those who aren't bothering to fully read the article, it is not McDonald's that is denying him. His own manager has said that he hopes the wounded employee gets paid. It is the insurance company that is saying no.

I read in another article that this is actually a self-insured plan that McDonald's has, and that it is merely administered by this third-party insurance company. I imagine that in the case of a claim of this magnitude there is probably some "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" going on between the insurance administrator company and McDonald's (who actually pay the claims if it's self-insured).

That's not a quote. If you say, "and I quote," you are supposed to follow that with an actual quote, not something you made up.

eddyatwork: If you're a clerk getting six bucks an hour why the hell would you even care about an assault. Call the cops and let them deal with it. It's like when you read about a 7-11 clerk stopping a robbery. Fark that noise, I'd be handing over the register and asking the guy if he wants a few cartons of smokes.

eddyatwork: Hollywood Cole: selfish coward

Ok internet tough guy, you tell me why I should get farking shot for some stranger I don't know, especially if I work at a job with no health coverage which means I foot the bill. Screw that noise. You go get 'em tiger!

Yeah, eddie, and now everyone here hopes you get what is coming to you. Congrats. Everyone wants to live in a world where nobody ever helps anyone. What a wonderful world that would be.

Is this you?

yeah my thoughts too . how much money would they be sued for if someone was fked up in front of Md's employees ? more than a few 100 thou im sure . and eddyatwork , please pull the c0ck out of your mouth , i cant understand a word your sayin' .

Hollywood Cole, I'll tell you why. Because it is the right thing to do! Bet you are the first crying baby about the government not taking care of your health care yet you will not lift a hand to help a woman who is getting the shait beat out of her by a jerk. What a worthless piece of trash you are.

Hero tag for the young man. Hero tag for McDonald's for donating to fund and sticking up for the guy. Rot in Hell tag for the insurance company.

God Cole you really pissed me off. Wish I had never read these comments because you just Farked up my entire day!

My perspective: The guy at McDonalds sees a chick getting Chris Brown'ed/Ike'ed, tries to be a hero so the girl will throw him kudos and he'll get that Employee of the month plaque that he's lost for the past 6 months to the dude on fries.

So seeing this opportunity to be the hero that saves the day he tries to be a white knight and because of his actions he gets shot like he was working in the Kwik-E-Mart or something.

Lesson learned: No good deed goes unpunished.

Lamune_Baba: Every insurance case is denied the first time. If you have a large claim, you can expect to be denied two or three times by default. Expect it to stay "in review" for months at a time between then to drag it out as long as possible. The idea is to get you to give up and not try again. It's now insurance companies make money - not helping people.

You have to remember, you're dealing with an entire industry's business model is "collect money for services then find ways to fark as many people out of them as possible."

People are starting to learn the quickest way to a settlement isn't to appeal- it's to get the media involved immediately. It saves time, and is generally more productive in the end.

Insurance company executives should be charged under the RICO act for that type of systematic fraud. The whole purpose of RICO was originally to make it easier for authorities to take apart gangs and crime families, and I can't imagine a bigger set of crime families than corporate insurance companies.

That confirms it, I'd rather live by a Starbucks.

So who told him "to go fark himself". Didn't see that anywhere.

nelbuts1: Hollywood Cole, I'll tell you why. Because it is the right thing to do! Bet you are the first crying baby about the government not taking care of your health care yet you will not lift a hand to help a woman who is getting the shait beat out of her by a jerk. What a worthless piece of trash you are.

Hero tag for the young man. Hero tag for McDonald's for donating to fund and sticking up for the guy. Rot in Hell tag for the insurance company.

God Cole you really pissed me off. Wish I had never read these comments because you just Farked up my entire day!

I will accept your apology after you realize your mistake.

Lamune_Baba: KrunkSplein: I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine a precedent for an abusive relationship being asserted as a robbery. It sounds to me like someone at the insurance company got a little overzealous and didn't realize that his attempt to swindle a register jockey would turn into a PR clusterfark.

Every insurance case is denied the first time. If you have a large claim, you can expect to be denied two or three times by default. Expect it to stay "in review" for months at a time between then to drag it out as long as possible. The idea is to get you to give up and not try again. It's now insurance companies make money - not helping people.

You have to remember, you're dealing with an entire industry's business model is "collect money for services then find ways to fark as many people out of them as possible."

People are starting to learn the quickest way to a settlement isn't to appeal- it's to get the media involved immediately. It saves time, and is generally more productive in the end.

This is not true. And it is especially not true in a work comp. situation. sure a carrier will go back in forth with all parties in the event of a claim where there is comparitive negligence in order to delay claim payments; however, work comp. is just for medical bills and time off from work due to injury. This is not a situation where the claimant is seeking millions of dollars in pain & suffering, he is just looking for the work comp. carrier to pay his bills and down time.

This is exactly the reason we have "bad faith" claims brought against the insurance carries. this carrier will pay a fine or triple damages for their denial of this claim. work comp is the sole remeding for getting hurt while at work, regardless of fault.

Epsilon: That's not a quote. If you say, "and I quote," you are supposed to follow that with an actual quote, not something you made up.

I don't like the guy, but he's got a point.

Mental Note:If ever and next time someone tries to rob the store, Tell them where the money is and tell them the combination to the safe and all or any other place money is hidden.

Stay Cool Babylon: "Nigel is a very nice young man," Wilson told FOX16 News Thursday. "He says 'yes sir, no sir' and he was just doing what anybody would do in that situation, on or off the job."

I'm not touching this...

But does he tell us how many bags are full?

McDonalds, like other companies, doesn't want to be liable if their employees get hurt at work. Therefore they discourage vigilantism. Much as I dislike it, that includes not tackling fleeing shoplifters etc.

I hope this guy gets his money but I understand legally why McD would take that position. They have to or they could be liable for millions.

nelbuts1: Hollywood Cole, I'll tell you why. Because it is the right thing to do!

Yay for mistaken identity! I had to do a double take and reread the comments.

Dubai Vol: Yeah, eddie, and now everyone here hopes you get what is coming to you. Congrats. Everyone wants to live in a world where nobody ever helps anyone. What a wonderful world that would be.

Farkers didn't create that world. Lawyers did. Until the personal sacrifice of the interfering party is confined to the event itself (where a proper risk-analysis can be made on the fly) you will get people who just don't want to get involved because they hear about others put in the poorhouse for the rest of their lives by some law-school trashbag extortionist.

Anyway, the proper response to an uppity crime-committing a-hole at McDs is a pan full of hot fryer fat. Not fists.

/she probably deserved it

nelbuts1: Hollywood Cole, I'll tell you why. Because it is the right thing to do! Bet you are the first crying baby about the government not taking care of your health care yet you will not lift a hand to help a woman who is getting the shait beat out of her by a jerk. What a worthless piece of trash you are.

Hero tag for the young man. Hero tag for McDonald's for donating to fund and sticking up for the guy. Rot in Hell tag for the insurance company.

God Cole you really pissed me off. Wish I had never read these comments because you just Farked up my entire day!

It wasn't Hollywood Cole who was making those comments -- he was only commenting eddyatwork being a jerk about it.