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HappyHarryHardOn [TotalFark] 2009-02-20 09:25:49 AM  
ive been secretly forgetting they are still alive since the 90s. A **rave** album? Yawn

 
Walker [TotalFark] 2009-02-20 09:49:52 AM  
Chris Brown celebrates, changes his pitch up, smacks his b*tch up.

 
tricycleracer 2009-02-20 09:56:38 AM  
If you've been waiting ten years for a big, dumb rave album, you need to find a new trend to cling to.

 
marius2 2009-02-20 10:01:07 AM  
The album is good, but not great.

Invaders must die and Omen are amazing songs, Warriors Dance and Stand Up are the only other really good ones. Thunder and Colours are amazingly catchy though. Piranha is the only song on the album I don't like, though it could have done without Omen Reprise.

That is all.

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-20 10:02:57 AM  
HappyHarryHardOn: ive been secretly forgetting they are still alive since the 90s. A **rave** album? Yawn

Considering we're only a year or two away from Disney releasing rave albums featuring Hannah Montana and Tiesto supported by a live tour accompanied by a brilliant light show and a 100 ice skaters in robot costumes, I think most people would hope the notion of "rave" was dead and buried already.

 
assegai 2009-02-20 10:19:30 AM  
album is good not great, seeing them live next month, the songs seem to be better suited live

 
rodne 2009-02-20 10:37:38 AM  
Miami here I come..

Not so much a prodigy fan but Van Buuren, Van Dyk, Above & Beyond will be awesome.

 
Flying Undead Sheep 2009-02-20 10:58:50 AM  
rodne: Miami here I come..

Not so much a prodigy fan but Van Buuren, Van Dyk, Above & Beyond will be awesome.


Going to Ultra? I'm jealous. I went for Ultra 7, and it was beyond awesome.

 
HappyHarryHardOn [TotalFark] 2009-02-20 11:09:34 AM  
Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: ive been secretly forgetting they are still alive since the 90s. A **rave** album? Yawn

Considering we're only a year or two away from Disney releasing rave albums featuring Hannah Montana and Tiesto supported by a live tour accompanied by a brilliant light show and a 100 ice skaters in robot costumes, I think most people would hope the notion of "rave" was dead and buried already.


I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

 
sonicfluid 2009-02-20 11:33:47 AM  
HappyHarryHardOn: Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: ive been secretly forgetting they are still alive since the 90s. A **rave** album? Yawn

Considering we're only a year or two away from Disney releasing rave albums featuring Hannah Montana and Tiesto supported by a live tour accompanied by a brilliant light show and a 100 ice skaters in robot costumes, I think most people would hope the notion of "rave" was dead and buried already.

I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?


Yea, just like how everyone stopped listening to rock when the The Monkeys came out, or how they all stopped listening to rap when MC Hammer came out.

Just because something you like gets coopted by commercial douche bags doesn't mean that you can't still enjoy it. The Prodigy were on the scene long before rave became a total joke and as long as their music is still good (which apparently the new album is) I couldn't care less what Disney is doing.

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-20 11:37:25 AM  
HappyHarryHardOn: I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

I don't know if there's any respect left anyway. I find it amusing that threads about Blink 182, Coldplay, NiN, etc. bring out the Fark music snob collective to bash these bands as being "kiddie" or not "real [insert genre here]" but people trot out stuff like the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Tiesto, Deadmau5, etc.

When someone points out that said "electronic" acts are perhaps the equivalent of Coldplay, it's an exact opposite reaction.

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-20 11:44:18 AM  
sonicfluid: Just because something you like gets coopted by commercial douche bags doesn't mean that you can't still enjoy it. The Prodigy were on the scene long before rave became a total joke and as long as their music is still good (which apparently the new album is) I couldn't care less what Disney is doing.

The Disney comment was a joke. Back in '92 and '93 people argued that the Prodigy killed the rave scene.

There is the theory of the Moebius...a twist in the fabric of space...where time becomes a loop...where time becomes a loop...where time becomes a loop...

 
solcofn [TotalFark] 2009-02-20 11:52:23 AM  

New album is ok...nothing new. I prefer the old Prodigy.


/Going to pop in Experience and Jilted Generation tonight.
//my lawn, get off it.
//anyone seen my glow sticks?


 
sonicfluid 2009-02-20 11:59:04 AM  
Glitchwerks: sonicfluid: Just because something you like gets coopted by commercial douche bags doesn't mean that you can't still enjoy it. The Prodigy were on the scene long before rave became a total joke and as long as their music is still good (which apparently the new album is) I couldn't care less what Disney is doing.

The Disney comment was a joke. Back in '92 and '93 people argued that the Prodigy killed the rave scene.

There is the theory of the Moebius...a twist in the fabric of space...where time becomes a loop...where time becomes a loop...where time becomes a loop...


Please tell me you're quoting Orbital sampling Star Trek: TNG. If you are, all is forgiven :-) I'm pretty sure I had my first nerdgasm listening to early Orbital.

 
sonicfluid 2009-02-20 12:01:16 PM  
Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

I don't know if there's any respect left anyway. I find it amusing that threads about Blink 182, Coldplay, NiN, etc. bring out the Fark music snob collective to bash these bands as being "kiddie" or not "real [insert genre here]" but people trot out stuff like the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Tiesto, Deadmau5, etc.

When someone points out that said "electronic" acts are perhaps the equivalent of Coldplay, it's an exact opposite reaction.


I don't think I understand the point you're trying to make, so I'll just mention that NIN, Prodgy, Daft Punk and Deadmau5 are awesome. My roommate picked up Deadmau5's Random Album Title last week and we've already listened to it probably 5 times.

 
TSE 2009-02-20 12:05:43 PM  
Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

I don't know if there's any respect left anyway. I find it amusing that threads about Blink 182, Coldplay, NiN, etc. bring out the Fark music snob collective to bash these bands as being "kiddie" or not "real [insert genre here]" but people trot out stuff like the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Tiesto, Deadmau5, etc.

When someone points out that said "electronic" acts are perhaps the equivalent of Coldplay, it's an exact opposite reaction.


You're becoming the FARK resident electronic music snob, aren't you ? Go ahead an give us your list of what is cool...I'm actually quite interested to know because I've been stuck listening to my old Orbital records lately and I need something new.

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-20 12:23:07 PM  
TSE: You're becoming the FARK resident electronic music snob, aren't you ? Go ahead an give us your list of what is cool...I'm actually quite interested to know because I've been stuck listening to my old Orbital records lately and I need something new.

Actually I've been pinned with that and it was never my intent, which is why I'm referencing a couple of older threads in my posts as this is sort of a summary and a point of closure.

I didn't start posting trying to tell people what to like. I tried to talk about other music they might like as well that doesn't get out into the spotlight because it isn't dressed in a fancy robot costume. That is where I think things went horribly wrong.

People get heated about musical discussions. Things get misunderstood. It happens, that's life. However much fun I may poke at some dude who puts on a stupid mouse head and pretends to DJ while twirling knobs, if you like it, that's cool. I just think you should check out some other stuff too.

As for suggestions, I have to think about it. Pulshar's "Brotherhood" was my album of the year for electronic music in 2008. It's deep house though, not everyone's cup of tea.

sonicfluid: I don't think I understand the point you're trying to make, so I'll just mention that NIN, Prodgy, Daft Punk and Deadmau5 are awesome. My roommate picked up Deadmau5's Random Album Title last week and we've already listened to it probably 5 times.

Just being the resident FARK electronic music snob, that's all. ;p

It was an Orbital/Star Trek TNG reference, of course.

 
Cervantes3773 2009-02-20 12:37:28 PM  
New Prodigy? Excellent.

But it's still all about the H the Y the B the R the I the D d d

 
sonicfluid 2009-02-20 12:39:37 PM  
TSE: Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

I don't know if there's any respect left anyway. I find it amusing that threads about Blink 182, Coldplay, NiN, etc. bring out the Fark music snob collective to bash these bands as being "kiddie" or not "real [insert genre here]" but people trot out stuff like the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Tiesto, Deadmau5, etc.

When someone points out that said "electronic" acts are perhaps the equivalent of Coldplay, it's an exact opposite reaction.

You're becoming the FARK resident electronic music snob, aren't you ? Go ahead an give us your list of what is cool...I'm actually quite interested to know because I've been stuck listening to my old Orbital records lately and I need something new.


Can I play too? I love old Orbital, especially Snivilisation. I could listen to that record on repeat all day.

Here are a few newer discs in my collection that any fan of electronic music might enjoy:

Deadmau5 - Random Album Title
The Crystal Method - Vegas Deluxe rerelease (the 2nd disc of new remixes is godlike)
Nine Inch Nails - Y34RZ3R0R3M1X3D
Portishead - Third (astute farkers will note that I said previously it was not my favorite Portishead album, which is not the same thing as saying that I don't like it... 2008 was a pretty weak year for new music, so even a less than stellar new release from Portishead is still better than 99% of what else is out there)

Oh, and a special bonus for Orbital fans (courtesy of wikipedia): "On 26st January 2009, Loopz announced confirmed dates. "The Orbital reformation gathers momentum with headline shows now confirmed for Manchester and London this September.""

 
Millzners 2009-02-20 01:48:22 PM  
TSE: Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

I don't know if there's any respect left anyway. I find it amusing that threads about Blink 182, Coldplay, NiN, etc. bring out the Fark music snob collective to bash these bands as being "kiddie" or not "real [insert genre here]" but people trot out stuff like the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Tiesto, Deadmau5, etc.

When someone points out that said "electronic" acts are perhaps the equivalent of Coldplay, it's an exact opposite reaction.

You're becoming the FARK resident electronic music snob, aren't you ? Go ahead an give us your list of what is cool...I'm actually quite interested to know because I've been stuck listening to my old Orbital records lately and I need something new.


Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.

 
T.rex 2009-02-20 01:54:12 PM  
who the hell is 'Prodigy'? I mean, i've heard of "THE Prodigy", and seemingly thats what the article is referring to, so i guess i'm confused by the subby's headline.

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-20 02:29:23 PM  
Millzners:
Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.


That sums it up and effectively takes the piss at the same time. However I do wish to clarify:

1. DJ Shadow fell off.
2. Bonobo is cool.
3. Boards of Canada have never been my thing, although I really did try to like them.

It's not intended to be elitism, but it always comes off like it to someone which is kind of why I'm washing my hands of it.

Funny you showing up, 'cos I think you were one of the first musical disagreements I ever had on Fark because you were saying a lot of stuff about Moby.

 
bigbadideasinaction 2009-02-20 02:58:20 PM  
Millzners: TSE: Glitchwerks: HappyHarryHardOn: I Didn't know that. Wow, whatever shred of respect ravers clung to will finally be stripped away, uh?

I don't know if there's any respect left anyway. I find it amusing that threads about Blink 182, Coldplay, NiN, etc. bring out the Fark music snob collective to bash these bands as being "kiddie" or not "real [insert genre here]" but people trot out stuff like the Prodigy, Daft Punk, Tiesto, Deadmau5, etc.

When someone points out that said "electronic" acts are perhaps the equivalent of Coldplay, it's an exact opposite reaction.

You're becoming the FARK resident electronic music snob, aren't you ? Go ahead an give us your list of what is cool...I'm actually quite interested to know because I've been stuck listening to my old Orbital records lately and I need something new.

Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.


I sample a pinecone for an hour, then play back the feedback.

/couldn't find the comic for that reference, sorry
//good music is whatever gets people moving

 
AgentOrangeDrink 2009-02-20 03:20:53 PM  
Glitchwerks: Millzners:
Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.

That sums it up and effectively takes the piss at the same time. However I do wish to clarify:

1. DJ Shadow fell off.
2. Bonobo is cool.
3. Boards of Canada have never been my thing, although I really did try to like them.

It's not intended to be elitism, but it always comes off like it to someone which is kind of why I'm washing my hands of it.

Funny you showing up, 'cos I think you were one of the first musical disagreements I ever had on Fark because you were saying a lot of stuff about Moby.


Have you seen his most recent show with Cut Chemist? 8 decks between them plus two guitar pedals, and they use nothing but 45s. One of the most impressive things I've ever seen, even if his last album was mostly forgettable.

 
sonicfluid 2009-02-20 03:34:01 PM  
Glitchwerks:
That sums it up and effectively takes the piss at the same time. However I do wish to clarify:

1. DJ Shadow fell off.
2. Bonobo is cool.
3. Boards of Canada have never been my thing, although I really did try to like them.



Well, I agree with you on 2 out of 3 points. I recently got into Bonobo and everything I've heard so far has been excellent. Boards of Canada is not my bag either, and like you I really tried to get into them. However, I gotta disagree about DJ Shadow. I thought his last album was pretty decent and I'll give anyone who writes anything as cool as Stem/Long Stem, Organ Donor or Midnight in a Perfect World the benefit of the doubt on future endeavors.

 
lazyminnie 2009-02-20 03:37:57 PM  
Saw them at The Warfield in San Francisco when they were promoting Fat Of The Land. Pretty intense show. When it was over, you could see the mist of sweat rise from the crowd.

 
tartie_pants 2009-02-20 05:27:15 PM  
AgentOrangeDrink: Glitchwerks: Millzners:
Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.

That sums it up and effectively takes the piss at the same time. However I do wish to clarify:

1. DJ Shadow fell off.
2. Bonobo is cool.
3. Boards of Canada have never been my thing, although I really did try to like them.

It's not intended to be elitism, but it always comes off like it to someone which is kind of why I'm washing my hands of it.

Funny you showing up, 'cos I think you were one of the first musical disagreements I ever had on Fark because you were saying a lot of stuff about Moby.

Have you seen his most recent show with Cut Chemist? 8 decks between them plus two guitar pedals, and they use nothing but 45s. One of the most impressive things I've ever seen, even if his last album was mostly forgettable.


YOu mean the Brain Freeze show? Hate to break it to you but they have been doing that for AT Least 9 years together in various forms.. but always the 8 decks and just 45s ... not saying that it isn't an AWESOME sight to behold.. just saying it was not a new idea for them.

Oh and they maybe ancient... but if you haven't heard Andy Smith's Document series... you really should look it up.... (=

 
Tenebreux 2009-02-20 06:18:11 PM  
HappyHarryHardOn: ive been secretly forgetting they are still alive since the 90s. A **rave** album? Yawn

"I don't rave, and no one else should".

 
Stay Cool Babylon 2009-02-20 07:44:56 PM  
Cervantes3773: But it's still all about the H the Y the B the R the I the D d d

This. Soundsystem 01, in particular.

 
AgentOrangeDrink 2009-02-20 08:48:00 PM  
tartie_pants: AgentOrangeDrink: Glitchwerks: Millzners:
Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.

That sums it up and effectively takes the piss at the same time. However I do wish to clarify:

1. DJ Shadow fell off.
2. Bonobo is cool.
3. Boards of Canada have never been my thing, although I really did try to like them.

It's not intended to be elitism, but it always comes off like it to someone which is kind of why I'm washing my hands of it.

Funny you showing up, 'cos I think you were one of the first musical disagreements I ever had on Fark because you were saying a lot of stuff about Moby.

Have you seen his most recent show with Cut Chemist? 8 decks between them plus two guitar pedals, and they use nothing but 45s. One of the most impressive things I've ever seen, even if his last album was mostly forgettable.

YOu mean the Brain Freeze show? Hate to break it to you but they have been doing that for AT Least 9 years together in various forms.. but always the 8 decks and just 45s ... not saying that it isn't an AWESOME sight to behold.. just saying it was not a new idea for them.

Oh and they maybe ancient... but if you haven't heard Andy Smith's Document series... you really should look it up.... (=


They've done it three times now, I was referring to the most recent, The Hard Sell (I think). I don't think there were as many decks as previous years, but yeah, the recordings (and especially catching an actual live performance) are amazing.

/I like Product Placement best

 
Tron Lafontaine 2009-02-20 09:39:00 PM  
I miss techno, I never understood why it died out the way it did.

BT - Movement in Still Life
Crystal Method - Tweekend
Daft Punk - Alive 2007

/just a few of my faves

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-20 09:52:31 PM  
Tron Lafontaine: I miss techno, I never understood why it died out the way it did.

What do you mean by "die out"?

It's huge, it's never been bigger. Where have you been?

 
sonicfluid 2009-02-20 10:01:45 PM  
Tron Lafontaine: I miss techno, I never understood why it died out the way it did.

BT - Movement in Still Life
Crystal Method - Tweekend
Daft Punk - Alive 2007

/just a few of my faves



Great picks! Altho I gotta say, I like TCM's Vegas and Legion of Boom better than Tweekend.

Oh yea, and apend these bad boys onto my earlier list of great recent electronic albums:

KMFDM - Brimborium
Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
OhGr - Devils In My Details

 
Millzners 2009-02-20 10:56:52 PM  
Glitchwerks: Millzners:
Glitchwerks is out to convince people who are into electronic music that just simply being into electronic music doesn't make it cool or hip or righteous. Acts like DJ Shadow, Bonobo, or Boards of Canada are equivalent to Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys to him... At some point you have to believe him b/c most people like myself can't quote a list of 50 electronic acts they know of that no one else has really heard of...

The bottom line is music elitists all have the same hangups: constantly declaring that the music they've spent so much time appreciating is under-appreciated and as soon as it is appreciated by the masses it's no longer legit or credible, so they borrow deeper to find even more obscure acts and the cycle repeats. I'm not exempt from that process either.

Me? I now listen exclusively to pink noise through $2,000 reference monitors -- that's where the realy magic is.

That sums it up and effectively takes the piss at the same time. However I do wish to clarify:

1. DJ Shadow fell off.
2. Bonobo is cool.
3. Boards of Canada have never been my thing, although I really did try to like them.

It's not intended to be elitism, but it always comes off like it to someone which is kind of why I'm washing my hands of it.

Funny you showing up, 'cos I think you were one of the first musical disagreements I ever had on Fark because you were saying a lot of stuff about Moby.


Yeah, I still hate Moby, but you were right about all the stuff you said. I think the larger point is that you're much more into the genre's of electronic music they play in live venues -- stuff you dance to. That happens to be where Moby got his start, so you knew a lot more about him then I did.

More importantly, you made a really good point to me which I now completely agree with: a lot of kids get to college or where ever and start listening to these acts that are very accessible, or at least trendy, they are DJ Shadow, Bonobo, RJD2, DJ Krush... whoever -- they think they know something about electronic music and hold it over everyone's head (me in that Moby thread). That pisses off people who actually do know something about electronic music like yourself.

Anyway, I think you do raise a lot of interesting points so don't feel like you're the Bevets of the Music tab or anything.

/Kneebody is actually what I've been obsessing over for the last 18 months, they aren't electronic but give it a shot if you're interested.
//post-jazz -- I told you I wasn't exempt from elitism

 
Glitchwerks 2009-02-21 09:06:49 AM  
Millzners: Yeah, I still hate Moby... I think the larger point is that you're much more into the genre's of electronic music they play in live venues...

I also really dislike Moby, probably for some of the same reasons you despise him.

I also can't pin down the stuff I like to any sort of aspect. I suppose the filthy truth is I do support file sharing as a method of learning about new music, although I try to buy whatever I like.

More importantly, you made a really good point to me which I now completely agree with: a lot of kids get to college or where ever and start listening to these acts that are very accessible, or at least trendy, they are DJ Shadow, Bonobo, RJD2, DJ Krush... whoever -- they think they know something about electronic music and hold it over everyone's head (me in that Moby thread). That pisses off people who actually do know something about electronic music like yourself.

Recommending music is a bit of a trap. If I said to someone who liked Shadow that I really didn't like his last album and suggested he go listen to this new kid called Emancipator instead, I instantly become a music snob. The tone is interpreted entirely different, as opposed to a (ahem) P2P music board where people are a bit more relaxed and not so ready to grab a pitchfork or torch.

Anyway, I think you do raise a lot of interesting points so don't feel like you're the Bevets of the Music tab or anything.

Well, I definitely don't want to be like Bevets and I don't want to be a Fark cliche. Of course, when I see people post that they are sad techno "died" and follow it up with three fairly mainstream albums, I sort of see a problem. We both know that the music didn't die, but it's exposure to a larger audience sort of did. All I felt compelled to do was talk about it. Pretty much as you outlined already. Oh well.

 
Millzners 2009-02-21 10:53:37 AM  
Glitchwerks: Millzners: Yeah, I still hate Moby... I think the larger point is that you're much more into the genre's of electronic music they play in live venues...

I also really dislike Moby, probably for some of the same reasons you despise him.

I also can't pin down the stuff I like to any sort of aspect. I suppose the filthy truth is I do support file sharing as a method of learning about new music, although I try to buy whatever I like.

More importantly, you made a really good point to me which I now completely agree with: a lot of kids get to college or where ever and start listening to these acts that are very accessible, or at least trendy, they are DJ Shadow, Bonobo, RJD2, DJ Krush... whoever -- they think they know something about electronic music and hold it over everyone's head (me in that Moby thread). That pisses off people who actually do know something about electronic music like yourself.

Recommending music is a bit of a trap. If I said to someone who liked Shadow that I really didn't like his last album and suggested he go listen to this new kid called Emancipator instead, I instantly become a music snob. The tone is interpreted entirely different, as opposed to a (ahem) P2P music board where people are a bit more relaxed and not so ready to grab a pitchfork or torch.

Anyway, I think you do raise a lot of interesting points so don't feel like you're the Bevets of the Music tab or anything.

Well, I definitely don't want to be like Bevets and I don't want to be a Fark cliche. Of course, when I see people post that they are sad techno "died" and follow it up with three fairly mainstream albums, I sort of see a problem. We both know that the music didn't die, but it's exposure to a larger audience sort of did. All I felt compelled to do was talk about it. Pretty much as you outlined already. Oh well.




Well see there you go, I would have never listened to Emancipator w/o your recommendation and what do you know -- it's pretty cool. So is this Intrusion guy (new window) also recommmened by you.

So keep it up, never mind that people interpret it as snobbish b/c anyone who tries a recommendation or two is going to know differently.

 
T.rex 2009-02-23 08:59:27 PM  
just wanted to add that DJ Shadow is one of my favorite artists, and so this thread prompted me to check out Bonobo, and Boards of Canada, neither of whom i had heard of.

I like the Bonobo, but not the B of C.

Of course Fatboy Slim will always be king.

 
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