I'm opposed to the lottery, but I'm not opposed to WINNING the lottery.

I'm not opposed to the lottery, but I am opposed to NikolaiFarkoff winning the lottery instead of me.

I'm not opposed to Pocket Ninja winning the lottery, but I am opposed to his refusal to share the winnings with me.

Fark you guys, I'm winning the lottery.

And if the federal government is going to take my money, or money from my state, to redistribute, then yes, I would like me or my state to be included in the redistribution, even if I opposed the idea of taking and redistributing the money in the first place. That makes plenty of sense.

That's right. Line up to the trough, biatch.

There are no atheists in foxholes. And there are no conservatives when the budget is being doled out.

Gov. Sanford = Starving Hobo complaining that the free soup needs pepper.

What does his son Lamont think?

The state legislature could override him, so it doesn't really matter.

What a tool. Seriously, this is why the rest of the country thinks that we're a bunch of stupid rednecks. Thanks, Gov.

If there is some fool throwing money out of a window I'm pretty sure most people might just walk over and pick up a few bucks.

I'm not exactly certain why it's hypocritical to be against a bill's passage but willing to follow what's in the bill if it does get passed.

Does anyone really expect any politician to really say NO when it comes to their state receiving benefits from the stimulus plan?

It would be politically and dutifully irresponsible for any governor to reject the stimulus plan benefits for their state now that it has been passed by Congress and signed into law.

heh, Obama should have had a provision stating that those who voted against the bill, their district or state would not receive any funds.


Republicans would have been more keen in "bipartisanship."

Just because you don't think they plan won't work doesn't mean you should turn down the money.

It's still money for improvements and benefits for your citizens.

So the Farkers who opposed Bush's tax cuts sent their refund checks back to the government?

Spanky_McFarksalot: Just because you don't think they plan won't

...and education classes like english.

I'm against taxes, but that "doesn't preclude having to pay them."

I'm with Sanford on this.

Basically, the Gov. thinks there are much better ways to spend the money.

The feds are forcing the money to be spent the way they say.

The Gov. is upset about this, but will take the wasteful, yet marginal benifit that will be provided over nothing at all.

Zarkin Frood: What a tool. Seriously, this is why the rest of the country thinks that we're a bunch of stupid rednecks. Thanks, Gov.

Why?

Given: The federal government is going to take money from your state for stimulus no matter what happens.

Conclusion: If it is impossible to stop them from taking your money, then try to get as much of it back as possible.

Another Red Welfare Queen of a State rears its racist head.

Dust: I'm not exactly certain why it's hypocritical to be against a bill's passage but willing to follow what's in the bill if it does get passed.

Does anyone really expect any politician to really say NO when it comes to their state receiving benefits from the stimulus plan?

It would be politically and dutifully irresponsible for any governor to reject the stimulus plan benefits for their state now that it has been passed by Congress and signed into law.

The douche claims the bill is a disaster for the country and to prove it he is going to keep it?

If you don't agree with the stimulus don't take the money is such a lame argument. I didn't see any democrats return their Bush tax cuts that they have preached about for years.

It's the "Worst bill ever" but they will take the money?

I can understand if the said "Well we don't like most of it" or "we don't like the prioritizes" but the Republicans said it will destroy America.

Why would they participate in a bill that they say will destroy America?

Captain Darling: So the Farkers who opposed Bush's tax cuts sent their refund checks back to the government?

Yes, because a personal tax refund to an individual is perfectly the same as a huge federal block grant to a state.

I understand completely.

LariSpitler: If you don't agree with the stimulus don't take the money is such a lame argument. I didn't see any democrats return their Bush tax cuts that they have preached about for years.

People against the Bush tax cuts didn't say it will "Destroy America" or that it was "The Worst bill in the history of the United States"

Republicans DID say just those things!

Its a big difference.

Wow.

Color me shocked...

LariSpitler: If you don't agree with the stimulus don't take the money is such a lame argument. I didn't see any democrats return their Bush tax cuts that they have preached about for years.

Um no democrats wanted more tax cuts for the middle class, not for George Bush's buddies on Wall Street.

LariSpitler: If you don't agree with the stimulus don't take the money is such a lame argument. I didn't see any democrats return their Bush tax cuts that they have preached about for years.

Democrats don't pay their taxes, anyway, so your analogy will be lost on them.

Apik0r0s: Another Red Welfare Queen of a State rears its racist head.

Yeah where is SC on that list? Do they take more than they give, like most red states?

Let's see: so far we've had Republican senators who voted against the stimulus bill taking credit for provisions in it, and Republican governors opposed to the stimulus bill lining up to receive their share of it. It's up to Republican voters to shake the charge that you guys are just a bunch of lying hypocrites who hide behind a self-righteous, fantasy-based ideology. So c'mon: who among the Republicans here on FARK will publicly assert their intention to refuse any benefit or relief derived from the stimulus package? Time to put up or shut up.

Moses To Sandy Koufax: LariSpitler: If you don't agree with the stimulus don't take the money is such a lame argument. I didn't see any democrats return their Bush tax cuts that they have preached about for years.

Democrats don't pay their taxes, anyway, so your analogy will be lost on them.



oops

I am opposed to murdering human babies, but I do not oppose murdering human adults.
I am opposed to all forms of persecution, but I do not oppose persecuting men who love other men.
I am opposed to tax cuts for the middle class, but I do not oppose tax cuts for the top 5%.

/where's the conflict?

he's a goddamn republican, and a goddamn republican will ALWAYS take the money.



----have a nice day!!

Well, they might as well take it, since they, and their kids, and grandkids, etc. will be partially responsible for paying it back.

To avoid these types of hypocritical acts, perhaps there should be a line in these bills that says, "if both a states senators don't vote for this spending bill then none of the money will go to the state."

He's right. The people of the state are being forced to pay for the stimulus. Might as well grab the money the government is already spending. The problem is the money being spent, not taking the money after it was already appropriated. If I were against the lottery, but forced to buy tickets, I sure would collect whatever winnings I could.

Your Faith is Creepy: Let's see: so far we've had Republican senators who voted against the stimulus bill taking credit for provisions in it, and Republican governors opposed to the stimulus bill lining up to receive their share of it. It's up to Republican voters to shake the charge that you guys are just a bunch of lying hypocrites who hide behind a self-righteous, fantasy-based ideology. So c'mon: who among the Republicans here on FARK will publicly assert their intention to refuse any benefit or relief derived from the stimulus package? Time to put up or shut up.

I'll take that challenge. I have a job, have most of the things that I need. I can't guarantee that my wife will be doing the same however, but she's a Democrat and therefore a little crazy.

I promise you that I will attempt to do my best not to reap any benefits of the stimulus package. I will not be in AMT this year and not eligible for any other tax breaks. I likely won't buy a house this year either. If I can help it, I'll be using mass transit instead of the highway system back and forth to work.

I am sure that I will in some way be touched by the stimulus, but I will not go out of my way to involve myself with it. call me a small government type of old school Republican if you will. I know that there have to be a few others like me out there.

Mighty Taternuts: Apik0r0s: Another Red Welfare Queen of a State rears its racist head.

Yeah where is SC on that list? Do they take more than they give, like most red states?

Hey! Is it the red states' fault they have smarter politicians? Elect someone who can bring home the green. Simple.

Mighty Taternuts: Apik0r0s: Another Red Welfare Queen of a State rears its racist head.

Yeah where is SC on that list? Do they take more than they give, like most red states?

Ask and ye shall receive. But you've got to click it to read it. Damn Imageshack...

Two predictions:

1/ Some Republican Governors will say "no" to Stimulus funds because they're confident that that "no" will be overruled by their legislatures.

2/ Some Republican Governors will find some small, penny-ante piece of the stimulus package that they can turn down without being overruled by their legislatures so they can go into the next election saying "And I said 'Thanks but no thanks' to TWO MILLION DOLLARS of Federal Money for YaddaYaddaYadda" while quietly ignoring the Billions they said "Thank you, oh thank you, Oh God, thank you so much" for.

Of course it doesn't preclude him from taking the money; it would require intellectual and moral consistency to do that.

Arnold T Pants: He's right. The people of the state are being forced to pay for the stimulus. Might as well grab the money the government is already spending. The problem is the money being spent, not taking the money after it was already appropriated. If I were against the lottery, but forced to buy tickets, I sure would collect whatever winnings I could.

But many Republicans are calling this a complete waste and they say it is going to "Destroy America". Why would they participate in the "Worst economic bill in the last 100 years" that is going to destroy America?

Why would they want to help destroy the country?

Why would they help just "throwing money away on pork?"

Or was what the Republicans been telling everyone complete hyperbole bullshiat?!?!?

PascalsGhost: Captain Darling: So the Farkers who opposed Bush's tax cuts sent their refund checks back to the government?

Yes, because a personal tax refund to an individual is perfectly the same as a huge federal block grant to a state.

I understand completely.

No, not because the tax refund is the same as a federal grant. Because of the principle that you should not accept money from a law that you opposed. That is the principle that subby thinks the governor should follow, right?

Smacky the Frog: Ask and ye shall receive.

Ah yep.

So they already get $1.35 out for every $1 they pay in.

Those of you saying they are paying for it they might as well get something out of it can now STFU, because they get more out than they pay in.

Oh and they are taking credit for the stimulus too that they voted against:


WASHINGTON - Rep. John Mica was gushing after the House of Representatives voted Friday to pass the big stimulus plan.

"I applaud President Obama's recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America's future," the Florida Republican beamed in a press release.

Yet Mica had just joined every other GOP House member in voting against the $787.2 billion economic recovery plan.


Whoops!

Spanky_McFarksalot: Just because you don't think they plan won't work doesn't mean you should turn down the money.

It's still money for improvements and benefits for your citizens.

But if you're claiming to be philosophically opposed to what the bill stands for, you coming out with "Well, I'll take the money anyway" makes you look like a shiathead.

Governor of South Carolina is a special and demanding office. Do you realize how hard it is to symbolize everything that's wrong with the Republican party day in and day out? Give this guy a break and stop with the rational arguments. Help him out and say if ya'll ain't a patriot then get out of the country!

Arnold T Pants 2009-02-19 05:11:39 PM
He's right. The people of the state are being forced to pay for the stimulus. Might as well grab the money the government is already spending. The problem is the money being spent, not taking the money after it was already appropriated. If I were against the lottery, but forced to buy tickets, I sure would collect whatever winnings I could.

Situational Ethics: The hallmark of the GOP

"I am against prostitution. But if I was forced to have sex, I'd come like a firehose."