What you did there submitter, I see it

Your dog wants taxes?

They already have fines for spitting in public.

Somehow, I don't think they thought their cunilingus plan through.

The Onanist: Your dog wants taxes?

For you and everyone else that doesn't get it: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=March%2014th

Next thing you know they'll start taxing steak too

and expensive hams

I like that idea as long as commercial vehicles are exempt. Couple it with the charge for miles driven ($0.0025 a mile) and ditch the gas tax.

There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.

What a bunch of sniveling pussies.

When the Hummer first came out there was some comedy guy talking to new owners on the street and would ask questions like "So why did you decide to buy this very large and impressive blow job?"
I have yet to see it on youtube.

notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.

When you purchase a vehicle that gets 15 miles to the gallon, you really can't biatch about gas prices.

notmtwain: a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon

What? All I have is a smallish Nissan Pathfinder and I get 15 miles to the gallon. I have a bunch of tools in the back, so that might make a difference but damn.

Bored Horde: Somehow, I don't think they thought their cunilingus plan through.

You get the big one. Well played.

jaylectricity: What? All I have is a smallish Nissan Pathfinder and I get 15 miles to the gallon. I have a bunch of tools in the back, so that might make a difference but damn.

The difference is that Hummers have the tools up front.

The great leaders of Boston should do something about all the traffic in that city. I don't know, maybe dig a big hole. I'm sure they could do it for a reasonable cost. And I'm sure we can count on the great leaders of Boston to keep cost over-runs to a bare minimum.

jaylectricity: notmtwain: a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon

What? All I have is a smallish Nissan Pathfinder and I get 15 miles to the gallon. I have a bunch of tools in the back, so that might make a difference but damn.

I wish I got 15mpg. My Wrangler gets 12mpg on a good day. With a tailwind. :-\

NightOwl2255: The great leaders of Boston should do something about all the traffic in that city. I don't know, maybe dig a big hole. I'm sure they could do it for a reasonable cost. And I'm sure we can count on the great leaders of Boston to keep cost over-runs to a bare minimum.

I see what you did there.

what_now: When you purchase a vehicle that gets 15 miles to the gallon, you really can't biatch about gas prices.

Pointing out that cars that get less miles per gallon already pay more in taxes isn't biatching.

notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.

Why do non commerical drivers ever need an H2? I can see some people needing a pickup truck for yard work but I don't understand an H2.

notmtwain: a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon


Sorry, but the H2 realistically is around 10mpg. I sadly know this from experience.

the H3 is 13-15mpg-ish

Hummers are not cars. They are trucks. GM, Ford, and Chrysler have utilized this loophole to sidestep gas-guzzler taxes and CAFE regulations for a thousand years. It is a whole 'nother discussion as to how this helped collapse the US auto industry.

As far as it relates to this situation whereas they want to impose a tax on these vehicles AFTER someone bought these vehicles is fundamentally wrong. Not surprising this comes from the Peoples Democratic Republik of Massachusetts. These idiots are all underwater now that no one wants a Hummer or a Suburban these days, so they are stuck with these behemoths. No you want to pile on the butthurt?

Also people who buy Hummers are retarded, therefore this law is prejudiced against retards. Where is the liberal outrage?

"The social costs of larger vehicles include not only the additional pollution, but also higher crash risks to other vehicles."

That's for sure. They could tax based on gross vehicle weight. Heavier weight means more damage to roads. I like smaller, fuel efficient cars, because I like to pay my mortgage every month, unlike some. But when you see some of these behemoths coming down the road you kinda lose your desire to buy too small.

notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.


Calling shenanigans on this. Saying "he's paid more but received less in return" is disingenuous. A Hummer causes more damage to the road surface and underlying bedwork than an Accord, and as such should pay more in road-use fees (gas tax). He's paying more because his vehicle weighs more, therefore uses more gas, and is helping pay his proportionate share of the road maintenance costs.

The only people who are paying a disproportionate share of the road maintenance costs are those who drive lightweight gas hogs (tuners). However, none of the hot-rodders I know care much about how much they spend on gas, so count their contributions as a freebie.

/My car gets 28mpg highway
//But will soon get only 10mpg city
///Forced induction tends to do that...

Ah yes, another fine step toward the criminalization of all cars.

What, you didn't know that was the ultimate goal?

By the way for anyone who supports this nonsense, there's already a fee for owning a gas guzzler, it's called a "gas tax".

Never buy a new car. Every car I own is over 30 years old. They are cool, plus to the DMV they are historic so the taxes, fees and insurance are less and no inspections, ever.

notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.

No additional state services? The hummer driver benefits more from the Weights and Measures department's testing and certification of fuel pumps because they use them more often.

notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.


Excellent point.

/Way to go, Taxachusetts.

stargazer101: The Onanist: Your dog wants taxes?

For you and everyone else that doesn't get it: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=March%2014th

Thank you for clearing that up. I learned something today.

The_Sponge: notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.


Excellent point.

/Way to go, Taxachusetts.

When are we going to get a Massachusetts tag? We have a greenlight everyday in these parts.

Bored Horde: Somehow, I don't think they thought their cunnilingus plan through.


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NightOwl2255: The great leaders of Boston should do something about all the traffic in that city. I don't know, maybe dig a big hole. I'm sure they could do it for a reasonable cost. And I'm sure we can count on the great leaders of Boston to keep cost over-runs to a bare minimum.



My father worked two jobs just we could have money to put in the money hole...

The_Sponge: notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.


Excellent point.

/Way to go, Taxachusetts.

The hummer uses up more resources in its upfront production than the Accord, the production of the H-series has helped tank the American car industry. Your $300 probably doesn't even come close to making up for that.

March 14th is coming soon; the guy's Valentines Day. Nice one subby.

notmtwain: The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.

Except that the Hummer is going to wear out the roads faster than the Accord. Whether his extra $300 makes up for the difference, who knows?

good.

Turd Blossom Bush gave Hummer owners tax cuts a few years ago.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29268064/

so long as they don't tax putting it in subbys mom...
or tax wiping your ass with the flag...

/got nothing

The_Sponge: notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.


Excellent point.

/Way to go, Taxachusetts.

Actually it's an idiotic point.

What "additional service" does he get for his 300$ in taxes?

HE GETS TO DRIVE A FREAK'N HUMMER.

I've had the pleasure and it is an interesting ride, and I think some people could really enjoy driving something the size of Noah's Ark.

You "conservative*" types really never see the forest for the trees.

(*-by "conservative" I mean "lying scumbags")

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These idiots are all underwater now that no one wants a Hummer or a Suburban these days, so they are stuck with these behemoths. No you want to pile on the butthurt?

Personally, I think stupidity should hurt as much as possible. So I'm firmly behind this.

//You bought the farking thing, now SUCK IT UP

"If I might put my head on the chopping block so you can kick it around a bit sir..."
"Yes?"
"Well most things we do for pleasure nowadays are taxed, except one."
"What do you mean?"
"Well, er, smoking's been taxed, drinking's been taxed but not...thingy."
"Good Lord, you're not suggesting we should tax...thingy?"

/Best pic I can find
//Wait, the article was about trucks?

Carth: notmtwain: There already is a Hummer tax.

With Mass gas taxes at 41.9 cents per gallon, a Hummer getting 15 miles per gallon is paying about a 3 cents per mile tax. An Accord getting 30 miles per gallon is paying only 1.5 cents per mile.

If an average driver drives 20,000 miles per year and gas is $2 a gallon, the Hummer driver pays a gasoline tax of $600 out of his total $2,666 gasoline spending while the Accord driver pays only $300 in gas taxes out of his $1,333 total spending.

The Hummer driver has paid $300 more in taxes and gotten no additional state services. The Accord driver is the only one who can afford hummers.

Why do non commerical drivers ever need an H2? I can see some people needing a pickup truck for yard work but I don't understand an H2.

Why do non race car drivers need a Corvette, Mustang, Charger, Camaro, Ferrari, or Lamborghini? Because we farking want them, that's why. If I can afford it, who the fark are you to tell me I can't have it?

Higher gas taxes is the simple , fair approach but would be politically unpopular because people are idiots.

Larger vehicles that cause more road wear, more pollution and more danger to other motorist also burn more gas.

raise gas taxes when oil is low and you also have potential cushion against sudden oil price spikes as well as motorist who aren't dependent on cheap gas or expecting cheap gas when they choose what vehicle to buy.

boil that frog, 3 cents more every month and make car buyers aware that it will continue.

All taxes are bad but some are less bad than others.

FilmBELOH20:
Why do non race car drivers need a Corvette, Mustang, Charger, Camaro, Ferrari, or Lamborghini? Because we farking want them, that's why. If I can afford it, who the fark are you to tell me I can't have it?

I don't care if you drive around on a unicycle. If you get some utility out of driving one great. Just realize you will have to pay more for it. If you don't want to pay the fees associated with it stop complaining and get something else.

saintstryfe: Actually it's an idiotic point.

What "additional service" does he get for his 300$ in taxes?

HE GETS TO DRIVE A FREAK'N HUMMER.

I've had the pleasure and it is an interesting ride, and I think some people could really enjoy driving something the size of Noah's Ark.

You "conservative*" types really never see the forest for the trees.

(*-by "conservative" I mean "lying scumbags")


Besides standard safety regulations, why should the government try to influence what I should drive? If I can afford a gas-guzzler, that should be it. Why should I be taxed more?

Fark it....let's place additional taxes on people who don't drive hyrbrids.

/Yeesh.
//And for the record, I don't drive a gas-guzzler.
///Never owned an SUV.

Taleya: Personally, I think stupidity should hurt as much as possible. So I'm firmly behind this.

//You bought the farking thing, now SUCK IT UP



Retroactive taxes are not OK however. It is classic that you would permit a tax that does not affect you. That is very liberal of you. It does not affect me either, but you can not allow the gov't sit back and think of ways to "fleece" unpopular causes.


First they came for the Hummers, since I did not own a Hummer, I did nothing....blah blah blah

Carth: FilmBELOH20:
Why do non race car drivers need a Corvette, Mustang, Charger, Camaro, Ferrari, or Lamborghini? Because we farking want them, that's why. If I can afford it, who the fark are you to tell me I can't have it?

I don't care if you drive around on a unicycle. If you get some utility out of driving one great. Just realize you will have to pay more for it. If you don't want to pay the fees associated with it stop complaining and get something else.

First they came for my exotic car collection, and I said nothing....

I feel so bad about the plight of the rich.

FilmBELOH20: Why do non race car drivers need a Corvette, Mustang, Charger, Camaro, Ferrari, or Lamborghini? Because we farking want them, that's why. If I can afford it, who the fark are you to tell me I can't have it?

Yeah, why should we care? It's not like your driving choices affect our atmosphere, roads, or public safety.

Taleya: Personally, I think stupidity should hurt as much as possible. So I'm firmly behind this.

//You bought the farking thing, now SUCK IT UP


Fine...they can suck it up when gas prices go up. But to place additional taxes on Hummer owners? That's just farking stupid.

I wish more people realized that YOU DON'T RAISE TAXES DURING A RECESSION!

Hummer tax? Finally a tax that won't affect me!

/married

FilmBELOH20: Why do non race car drivers need a Corvette, Mustang, Charger, Camaro, Ferrari, or Lamborghini? Because we farking want them, that's why. If I can afford it, who the fark are you to tell me I can't have it?

You can have it, you just gotta pay more. After all, you can afford it. 8)