Shocking isn't it. Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.


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FireBreathingLiberal: Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.

Also, we'll have to go to atheist un-churches.

I can't speak to the latter, but the former is an absolute lie. The bill contains the same language that every spending bill does concerning using monies on facilities the primary purpose of which is religious worship.

FireBreathingLiberal: Shocking isn't it. Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.


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I, for one, welcome our Soshulizt overlords.

I remember back in high school (when Clinton was president), one of my classes was told to look at the budget, and see how we would change it. One of the things I cut was military spending. The teacher questioned me on it like I was some unpatriotic scumbag.

Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

Vanetia: Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

Well, we get most of our technological breakthroughs from their R&D programs. Porn is a close second.

FireBreathingLiberal: Shocking isn't it. Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.


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As a guy gay-married to an aborted fetus, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Vanetia

Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

In order to rule the world. Do you know how many military bases we have around trhe world? And those Nimitz class carriers aren't cheap either. Not to mention invisible jet fighters, star wars, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., etc.

queezyweezel: Vanetia: Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

Well, we get most of our technological breakthroughs from their R&D programs. Porn is a close second.

The cuts aren't in R&D - they're in specific program procurements - that is, less of certain things that are already in production.

We really don't need 300 F-22s ... though 300 FA-35s would be nice.

Vanetia Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

Because it's good for business.

submitter: prohibit any religious activity in facilities receiving money ... cutting the defense budget by 10 percent

In the stimulus package?

Poppycock!

These are great ideas that should be included in the next Federal budget.

It's interesting the reaction to childcare from the folks who want to end welfare. If there are single mothers out there, or families who are underemployed, and they have kids, assistance with child care makes sense.

It makes sense in a couple of ways. Parents can both work, and NOT then need direct assistance. And single parents have less to worry about, and can keep working without the worry about babysitters and the like. The assistance for child care means that child care workers don't have to cut back on their own workers as well. It keeps people working and able to work.

If MORE people can work, and giving them a hand with child care means that folks are better able to get out there and be active in the work force. One would think that kids being taken care of AND folks working is a better alternative than parents who either can't work because they can't afford child care, or parents who have to take crappier jobs to be able to have the time to get to and from their less qualified and less documented child care alternatives.

The outright lies about the package, that's to be expected. I'm waiting for folks to claim that they were instrumental for parts that are found to work, among those who voted against the bill.

I thought the whole church/state separation prevented govt. from meddling in the church's affairs and vice-versa.

Also, our defense budget is HUGE. I'm sure can afford to trim some of the budget to make room for other needs. Only thing that would really piss me off is if the bill caused a drop in pay for the troops.

Far as I'm concerned, if you're willing to get shot at/bombed/whatever while serving in the armed forces, you deserve a respectable paycheck. Even if I don't agree with the root causes of the military engagement.

The stimulus will falcon punch your wife.

I don't doubt that Fox's special spun things in its favor, but that article from "Media Matters" has a lot of spin in it as well.

They are all farktards, and the sooner we all realize this, the better off we'll be.

Vanetia: I remember back in high school (when Clinton was president), one of my classes was told to look at the budget, and see how we would change it. One of the things I cut was military spending. The teacher questioned me on it like I was some unpatriotic scumbag.

Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

You cut the military budget during the Clinton years? Oh lordy

Military expenditures...

United States ... $623 billion
Rest of World combined ... $500 billion

Yeah, I'm sure there's nothing to cut there.

i know i've seen that bullshiat before. Link (new window)

between fox news and fark independents the war on truth is not far from ultimate victory.

Bob Dolemite: that article from "Media Matters" has a lot of spin in it as well.

For example?

You say that like it's a bad thing subtard

Summary: In Fox News' special, Trillion with a T, Bret Baier promoted or repeated several myths and falsehoods about President Obama and the economic recovery bill, including that some of the spending in the bill -- which Obama has now signed into law -- isn't stimulus

Even the brain dead Obamabots admit they even they don't think everything in the bill is stimulus. Media Matters fails again.

ambassador_ahab: I thought the whole church/state separation prevented govt. from meddling in the church's affairs and vice-versa.

That worked well with California, mormons and stupidity in general.

None of that is true. The only thing that'll change is that everyone has to attend one communist party meeting a month and get gay married to a person of their choosing.

I call Barnacles!

Bob Dolemite I don't doubt that Fox's special spun things in its favor, but that article from "Media Matters" has a lot of spin in it as well.


this is a false equivalency. just because media matters has an overt partisan mission does not mean they cannot tell the difference between reality and make believe. in fact you may notice that when media matters makes a claim they make... dun dun dun... citations to the original source.

Donald_McRonald: I call Barnacles!

Was Claus Von Blow unavailable?

kronicfeld: Was Claus Von Blow unavailable?

Bulow. Rented fingers.

kleppe: Vanetia: I remember back in high school (when Clinton was president), one of my classes was told to look at the budget, and see how we would change it. One of the things I cut was military spending. The teacher questioned me on it like I was some unpatriotic scumbag.

Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

You cut the military budget during the Clinton years? Oh lordy

You realize Cheney made a ton of those cuts leading to the 90's, right?

It was bloated as Hell.

cut it by 50% and call me in the morning.

kronicfeld: Claus Von Blow

HAWT.

We need to cut "defense" spending. I'm all for killing religious intolerants but 42 cents from every tax dollar is way too much money. And I should be getting more bang for my 16% in tax dollars toward health care.

I wish someone'd cut defense spending.

But by more like 20-25%.

10% is just a cut to reduce overall spending, 5% becomes the annual budget for a pure-research institution like the Academies of enlightenment Europe, 2-3% goes to NASA, and the balance goes toward merit-based college scholarships and/or health care.

FireBreathingLiberal: Shocking isn't it. Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.


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Obama's against the Fairness Doctrine so that he can see Rush Limbaugh implode.

Limbaugh's going to be the closing speaker at CPAC this year and I'm going to it.

Blatantly spreading lies may be effective, just not for smart people.

Religion is teh enemie of humankind!

Hurrr!!

I_Love_Verdi: Blatantly spreading lies may be effective, just not for smart people.

Most Americans aren't smart. In fact, most are downright stupid.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Obama pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

The stimulus bill murdered my mother and raped my father.

Let's not get crazy here. We're going to need a military for martial law after the bread riots.

As a guy gay-married to an aborted fetus, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

As a gal who aborted that fetus as a routine form of birth control, I'm getting a kick out of being your mother-in-law.

pleaseDemeter: As a guy gay-married to an aborted fetus, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

As a gal who aborted that fetus as a routine form of birth control, I'm getting a kick out of being your mother-in-law.

Mom...not here, please!

FireBreathingLiberal: Shocking isn't it. Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.


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As an ordained minister, that means more work and monies for me!

InmanRoshi: Military expenditures...

United States ... $623 billion
Rest of World combined ... $500 billion

Yeah, I'm sure there's nothing to cut there.

Please don't bring up military funding. It's a very sensitive subject when you talk to a Canadian.

Case in point: Link (new window) and Link (new window)

Cut the military budget in half. Eisenhower was right.

Funk Brothers: FireBreathingLiberal: Shocking isn't it. Obama is also going to take away the guns of private citizens, shut down right wing radio and require everybody to to gay-marry an aborted fetus so the stem cells can be harvested.


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It's the Fairness Doctrine that may be the only thing keeping Neal Boortz in business. Well, that, and his habit of reading news items that were obviously just handed to him and then offering "commentary" on them. For four hours.
Obama's against the Fairness Doctrine so that he can see Rush Limbaugh implode.

Limbaugh's going to be the closing speaker at CPAC this year and I'm going to it.

It's the Fairness Doctrine that may be the only thing keeping Neal Boortz in business. Well, that, and his habit of reading news items that were obviously just handed to him and then offering "commentary" on them. For four hours.

HotWingConspiracy: Cut the military budget in half. Eisenhower was right.

Thing is, you could cut it in half, and nobody in the world would still be able to touch us.

There is no excuse for what we waste on defense.

queezyweezel: Vanetia: Why do we need to spend so much on our military?

Well, we get most of our technological breakthroughs from their R&D programs.

Why do you hate the free market? The government is bad.

HotWingConspiracy: Cut the military budget in half. Eisenhower was right.

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