I have that movie on my PC. Wow.

Does that star Silvia Saint? I love her.

I don't buy it.

The picture isn't even of The Prodigy. Smells like BS to me, I'm going to post this on theprodigy.co.uk and see what I get.

Shiat, I didn't know there was a new Prodigy album coming out. To the internets!

I've decided to take my work back underground. To stop it falling into the wrong hands.

Bek: Shiat, I didn't know there was a new Prodigy album coming out. To the internets!

Yes, and it's pretty good. Feb 23rd is official release date of Invaders Must Die, new single "Omen" available now on iTunes and in fine record stores (whatever that means these days) near you.

As far as the album goes, I've heard it. It didn't change my life like the first three ("Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned" didn't stand a chance), but it is pretty damn good.

Oh and just to reply under myself for the third time:

The Prodigy formed in 1990, and you first heard of them in 1997 when The Fat Of The Land was released, failmitter. A soundtrack to a porn movie released in 1999 was NOT their first work. Even the fake article doesn't say that.

Winktologist: I don't buy it.

The picture isn't even of The Prodigy. Smells like BS to me, I'm going to post this on theprodigy.co.uk and see what I get.

Actually there was a rumor going around back then that one of the members of the Prodigy (not Liam) and a member of Massive Attack were doing music for a porno. A zero-G porno at that. So this isn't exactly anything new.

You're right though, who the hell are those people?

And by the way, it was "What Evil Lurks" on XL Recordings in '91, submitter.

Jeez, look at that picture. These guys sure have lost their edge since their "Fat of the Land" clown days. The guy on the right looks like someone your mother downright might like to meet.

GonzoNihilist: I never understood how and why people liked these clowns.

In a big sense it was where I was in my life and where I was geographically. I loved "Music for a Jilted Generation" and there were few tracks on "Fat of the Land" I didn't like. If you didn't/don't like them, fine. You have your reasons, I have mine.

Is it Prodigy or The Prodigy?

I need to get some of the back catalog, what I've heard I liked, it just hasn't been much.

As far as the album goes, I've heard it. It didn't change my life like the first three ("Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned" didn't stand a chance), but it is pretty damn good.

Fair enough, but how many albums have we all been, "meh," only to go batshiat crazy for 3 days and 20 listens later? But you're right about 'Outnumbered.' The first couple of minutes into "Spitfire" are just crunchy and vicious in the best possible way...and then it drones on in a way that even electronica shouldn't. Entire album just sounds like it was looked at as a chore.

/still way better than anything I've done, tho
//Fat of the Land ftw...every last track

i got the poison
i got the remedy

Let's get one thing straight here:

The Prodigy is not a band. It is a producer. It is just one guy -- Liam Howlett. He is The Prodigy as much as Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails. Can you name any of the other guys on Nine Inch Nails? No. Because they don't matter. They aren't important. Both Trent and Liam are not bands, nor are they in bands. They are studio producers who sometimes enlist a revolving door of musicians, stagehands and other theatrical nonsense when they go on tour once every seven years. But they aren't bands.

/Keith Flint is a backup dancer, not a musician
//mainstream music industry doesn't understand, so it tends to prop up the most visible part of the outfit -- often something that had nothing to do with the production of the music whatsoever
//this is a farking great album:

Ishkur: Let's get one thing straight here:

The Prodigy is not a band. It is a producer. It is just one guy -- Liam Howlett. He is The Prodigy as much as Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails. Can you name any of the other guys on Nine Inch Nails? No. Because they don't matter. They aren't important. Both Trent and Liam are not bands, nor are they in bands. They are studio producers who sometimes enlist a revolving door of musicians, stagehands and other theatrical nonsense when they go on tour once every seven years. But they aren't bands.

/Keith Flint is a backup dancer, not a musician
//mainstream music industry doesn't understand, so it tends to prop up the most visible part of the outfit -- often something that had nothing to do with the production of the music whatsoever
//this is a farking great album:

Ishkur: Let's get one thing straight here:

The Prodigy is not a band. It is a producer. It is just one guy -- Liam Howlett. He is The Prodigy as much as Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails. Can you name any of the other guys on Nine Inch Nails? No. Because they don't matter. They aren't important. Both Trent and Liam are not bands, nor are they in bands. They are studio producers who sometimes enlist a revolving door of musicians, stagehands and other theatrical nonsense when they go on tour once every seven years. But they aren't bands.

/Keith Flint is a backup dancer, not a musician
//mainstream music industry doesn't understand, so it tends to prop up the most visible part of the outfit -- often something that had nothing to do with the production of the music whatsoever
//this is a farking great album:

Josh Freese, but then again he's played drums for every band that has ever existed. Richard Patrick from Filter used to play guitar on tour.

"He just keeps saying he's the Firestarter."

Stay Cool Babylon: The first couple of minutes into "Spitfire" are just crunchy and vicious in the best possible way...and then it drones on in a way that even electronica shouldn't. Entire album just sounds like it was looked at as a chore.


People generally throw rocks at people who use the term "electronica." I'm just warning you. Also, the genre is generally built on the concept of being repetitious and monotonous. It is dance music after all.

Ishkur: The Prodigy is not a band. It is a producer.

From the start, everyone knew Liam was the only guy doing the music, and the others were just to make the live shows a little more exciting. Also, they kept Maxim around to ruin some tunes. He's the absolute worst MC in existence, although there are plenty of drunken chavs who are currently trying for the title chatting over a bunch of wobble dubstep records.

The Prodigy aren't bad, but damn they got played out for me.

The Billdozer: Ishkur: Let's get one thing straight here:

The Prodigy is not a band. It is a producer. It is just one guy -- Liam Howlett. He is The Prodigy as much as Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails. Can you name any of the other guys on Nine Inch Nails? No. Because they don't matter. They aren't important. Both Trent and Liam are not bands, nor are they in bands. They are studio producers who sometimes enlist a revolving door of musicians, stagehands and other theatrical nonsense when they go on tour once every seven years. But they aren't bands.

/Keith Flint is a backup dancer, not a musician
//mainstream music industry doesn't understand, so it tends to prop up the most visible part of the outfit -- often something that had nothing to do with the production of the music whatsoever
//this is a farking great album:


Josh Freese, but then again he's played drums for every band that has ever existed. Richard Patrick from Filter used to play guitar on tour.


Danny Lohner played bass for them. I only know this though, because he went to high school with me.

Bek: Shiat, I didn't know there was a new Prodigy album coming out. To the internets!

It's already been leaked. I have not heard it, but I have read fan comments and they are pretty divided. Some people think it's okay and pretty decent, but I've seen a good number of people who think it's absolute trash.

I am probably going to play the part of "hear no evil monkey" and decide not to listen to it, like I did with Portishead's "3." Their brand of "electro-rawk" isn't really my cup of tea anymore.

Love all their albums, albeit that it took about 10 listenings to actually get "always outnumbered, never outgunned" (love hotride + spitfire + the way it is). Saw them live and if you haven't you should, even if you don't like electronic music, they are pure adrenaline on stage, no to mention that power surges through the crowd...

I second what Ishkur said about the Prodigy Experience album. GREAT...GREAT....record.

//Listens to Jericho and dances around cube.

GonzoNihilist: I never understood how and why people liked these clowns.

You have to listen hear

Glitchwerks: People generally throw rocks at people who use the term "electronica."

I deliberately used that phrase in order to provide an umbrella and not have to argue about sub-genres. But thanks for the warning. I'm not sure how I would have handled a mob of bombastic fans.

Glitchwerks: Also, the genre is generally built on the concept of being repetitious and monotonous. It is dance music after all.

Aaaaaand again I have to explain. It's monotonous even for 'electronica.' In other words, that's pretty bad even though it is considered a hallmark of the genre. And just to warn you, people tend to throw rocks when you refer to it as "dance music."

If I sound like a jerk it's because I think you're the same guy who relentlessly corrects any post made on electronic music, or at least corrects it to his own version of what is worthy and what isn't. You most often support your assertions based upon what certain people in your group of like-minded friends or people in a particular scene think, as though any of it were a supporting structure in a silly debate over matters of taste. If you're not the same guy, I'm sorry for taking up your time.

Stay Cool Babylon: I deliberately used that phrase in order to provide an umbrella and not have to argue about sub-genres. But thanks for the warning. I'm not sure how I would have handled a mob of bombastic fans.

The umbrella is "electronic music". That's what it is, that's what it's always been. That's what you should call it.

"electronica" is some braindead corporate buzzword dreamed up by marketers in the late 90s to try and sell this music (in the early 90s they called it all "techno"); its as offensively lame as poochy the dog and "synergizing office solutions" bullshiat boardroom speak.

So please, do not say that word. You sound like a douchefag when you say it, like a fan of anime calling it "japanimation", or like your dad checking in on you and your friends in the basement back when you were a teenager, and he's trying in vain to be all hip and cool by going "groovy guys, that's really wild, far out stuff!" Yeah, like that. Don't be that guy. There is a reason why everyone is rolling their eyes at you.

Stay Cool Babylon:
I deliberately used that phrase in order to provide an umbrella and not have to argue about sub-genres. But thanks for the warning. I'm not sure how I would have handled a mob of bombastic fans.

Generally speaking, this is Fark. You make fun of them.

Stay Cool Babylon: Aaaaaand again I have to explain. It's monotonous even for 'electronica.' In other words, that's pretty bad even though it is considered a hallmark of the genre. And just to warn you, people tend to throw rocks when you refer to it as "dance music."

If I sound like a jerk it's because I think you're the same guy who relentlessly corrects any post made on electronic music, or at least corrects it to his own version of what is worthy and what isn't. You most often support your assertions based upon what certain people in your group of like-minded friends or people in a particular scene think, as though any of it were a supporting structure in a silly debate over matters of taste. If you're not the same guy, I'm sorry for taking up your time.

I think you're misinterpreting my intended tone for my posts. It is nonchalant with dead pan humor. You're not supposed to take what I say very seriously at all.

I suppose I could be "that guy" however I don't think I've ever "relentlessly corrected" anyone on Fark or made assertions like you describe. You could also be totally misinterpreting everything I say. I enjoy pissing on sacred cows; my own included. It's music and people take the subject entirely too seriously, for examples see any topic about Radiohead.

The only thing I think I've made a case about is Daft Punk and how their fanbase is generally uninformed about music they might also like, because it wasn't marketed in shiny robot suits.

Relax and have a toke, dude.

Glitchwerks: I suppose I could be "that guy" however I don't think I've ever "relentlessly corrected" anyone on Fark or made assertions like you describe. You could also be totally misinterpreting everything I say. I enjoy pissing on sacred cows; my own included. It's music and people take the subject entirely too seriously, for examples see any topic about Radiohead.

Maybe he meant instances like this

Stay Cool Babylon: It's monotonous even for 'electronica.'

The joke about it being monotonous goes way back to the KLF's "The Manual" in which they pretty much skewer Detroit techno verbally. They made note of how one day someone would release a record consisting of a single kick drum record at a specific BPM, and how someone else would release the exact same tune and immediately there would be a fervid discussion over which record was better. The amazing thing is that this has pretty much happened.

So when I comment on the fact that it's supposed to be monotonous, I'm saying it with that fact in mind. I still haven't heard anything but "Spitfire" off that album. I thought all of the Prodigy's albums were pretty monotonous, "Experience" excluded. That's about the only material that came out of the hardcore era that has production values that still hold up today. Everything else is nostalgia for when people drank the contents of their glow sticks mixed with cough syrup.

LewDux: Maybe he meant instances like this

Yes, that is relentless correction and assertion at work with one post. Seriously though, that's not meant to be taken any bit more seriously than some of the responses from myself and other people in this thread. Since Fark frowns on the use of emoticons I don't tack ";P" and ";)" on my posts, but apparently I need to.

Glitchwerks: LewDux: Maybe he meant instances like this

Yes, that is relentless correction and assertion at work with one post. Seriously though, that's not meant to be taken any bit more seriously than some of the responses from myself and other people in this thread. Since Fark frowns on the use of emoticons I don't tack ";P" and ";)" on my posts, but apparently I need to.

Fair enough. Except my memory isn't of that linked post, but several threads. There is snark, and then there is, er, snark. Typing a reply isn't so much taking you 'seriously' as it is calling you on what reeks of artisitc elitism. Yeah, I used the 'e' word, and no, I'm no fan of the organizations that currently beat that word to death.
The bottom line is that on several occasions I (think) I've seen you belittle anyone who doesn't share your tastes, phrases, or ideas of what real music is. And that is the worst way to take a kinfe to the douche bag and start flinging it at everyone. Again, I may have you mistaken, and therefore apologize for any bewilderment I've caused.

If we were neighbors, we'd both be pointing to music neither of us had heard, yet, given that we both seem passionate in our tastes in the same 'unbrella' genre. But we're on the internet, which apparently makes both of us unwitting assholes. Except I wasn't so unwitting in this thread. I totally started this and I already feel douchetastic.

Doesn't take away from my point, tho. And by all means, continue to second-guess the tastes, phrasing, and overall relevance of everyone who has the nerve to post an opinion on music.

Stay Cool Babylon: The bottom line is that on several occasions I (think) I've seen you belittle anyone who doesn't share your tastes, phrases, or ideas of what real music is. And that is the worst way to take a kinfe to the douche bag and start flinging it at everyone. Again, I may have you mistaken, and therefore apologize for any bewilderment I've caused.

Yeah, sorry, but that's definitely not me or you are horribly misinterpreting something.

Glitchwerks: Stay Cool Babylon: The bottom line is that on several occasions I (think) I've seen you belittle anyone who doesn't share your tastes, phrases, or ideas of what real music is. And that is the worst way to take a kinfe to the douche bag and start flinging it at everyone. Again, I may have you mistaken, and therefore apologize for any bewilderment I've caused.

Yeah, sorry, but that's definitely not me or you are horribly misinterpreting something.

Or, it is you, and I was deftly trying to spare you the links to the threads. OK. Carry on then.

Stay Cool Babylon: Or, it is you, and I was deftly trying to spare you the links to the threads. OK. Carry on then.

Bullshiat. I checked every link I posted in under "MyFark" and I haven't behaved like you claim I do in any of those threads. The only one I riled some people with was in a Daft Punk thread. I will stand by everything I said in that thread.

Bring on the links then. If you want to be like LewDux and bring up something that happened almost over a year ago, that's fine too. However I claim Farker's rights if I happened to be intoxicated at the time.

Glitchwerks: Their brand of "electro-rawk" isn't really my cup of tea anymore.

I'd call it straight up Psyche-rock. but now we're just bickering about things neither of us care about.

Stay Cool Babylon: Or, it is you, and I was deftly trying to spare you the links to the threads. OK. Carry on then.

I'm still waiting for these links. I think you owe me that. If I've behaved as you claim, I'll apologize and move on. You claim to be "sparing" me while your posts pretty much throw me under the bus.

Stay Cool Babylon: I totally started this and I already feel douchetastic.

This pretty much sums up exactly what I think happened in this thread.

Glitchwerks: Stay Cool Babylon: Or, it is you, and I was deftly trying to spare you the links to the threads. OK. Carry on then.

I'm still waiting for these links. I think you owe me that. If I've behaved as you claim, I'll apologize and move on. You claim to be "sparing" me while your posts pretty much throw me under the bus.

Stay Cool Babylon: I totally started this and I already feel douchetastic.

This pretty much sums up exactly what I think happened in this thread.

Not exactly. "Sparing you" the links was both a legit gambit prodding you to look into your own mess (via search), and failing that, a polite way of excusing my own laziness. I'm just happy that you're racking your brain for it. My work is done.

Stay Cool Babylon: Not exactly. "Sparing you" the links was both a legit gambit prodding you to look into your own mess (via search), and failing that, a polite way of excusing my own laziness. I'm just happy that you're racking your brain for it. My work is done.

Well, I guess I've been trolled and found the first person on Fark besides mrEdude/DaveyUnderground who's genuinely deserving of being on my ignore list.

Their first work as a band was two years after their second album?

(Also, I'd say having had Maxim doing vocals for several albums makes them something like a band, anyway. A group, at least. And Experience? Not their best album. Not even top three. Jilted's easily the best thing they ever did.)