Another victory for progressive socialism!


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//fark Chavez

FiatJustitia: Another victory for progressive socialism!

You're a progressive socialist?

BFF4EVR!!!1111111!!!1

Chavez has always been at war with Eastasia

well he can declare victory all he wants from the grave.

This should end well...

Best use of the OBVIOUS tag in a week at least.

damn him for allowing the people to democratically remove term limits so he can be democratically elected by the people again in order to fully accomplish his vision, damn that dictator!.

What a douchetard. But really, as long as he doesn't declare himself "President for life", or anything, it's not as bad as some are making it out to be. He can still lose elections.

My colombian gf is in the "this is awful" camp. He supported the rebel group ELN, who kidnapped her mother for the measly few thousand dollars her family could scrap together. Fark Chavez

Good for him; if the people keep voting him into power he deserves to hold it. I never really liked term limits anyways, they seem to be too geared towards that 'bipartisan' crap that assumes that both sides should switch off power and that will somehow make everything better when in fact it really just creates stagnation in government.

I'm sure he's glad Bush only left office recently. His paranoid delusions are harder to sell to the ignorant without the image of the big bad cowboy to rely upon.

There will still be a sizeable Fark contingent to defend him though, and claim "he'll soon be invaded for his oil."

And when he bankrupts his country--- wait for the Fark thread to explain how it's all evil America's fault.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It seems like with world leaders there seems to be an inverse proportion between the amount of declared victory and the amount of actual victory.

So what was the real ballot count?

zephyy: damn him for allowing the people to democratically remove term limits so he can be democratically elected by the people again in order to fully accomplish his vision, damn that dictator!.

Chavez? Is that you?

Shaggy_C: I never really liked term limits anyways, they seem to be too geared towards that 'bipartisan' crap that assumes that both sides should switch off power and that will somehow make everything better when in fact it really just creates stagnation in government.

Agreed, if we'd just given Bush just a few more terms, he might have fixed everything and would have retired an international hero.

How did this get labeled "commie" on the PITA? Neither the headline nor the comments so far are in support of Chavez.

Might have something to say about that....

FiatJustica: Another victory for progressive socialism!


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When will these filthy savages realize that all their stuff rightfully belongs to the white man?

Obviously this means that Michael Bloomberg is a dictator.

Britney Spear's Speculum: So what was the real ballot count?

THIS

Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: How did this get labeled "commie" on the PITA? Neither the headline nor the comments so far are in support of Chavez.

Easy. Chavez is a commie dictator. No matter how overwhelmingly he was elected by his own people.

Leave Chavez alone. He has ruled the area for many years and he knows what is best for his people.

Do you know how to handle rapid deflation? Looks like America is following in our footsteps. Calling the kettle black, you fools?

We have ebola outbreaks and death-squads. What do you know about ebola besides what you have read on the WebMD.com? Have you even participated in a death squad?

Walk a mile in a man's jack-boot for a while. Watch as you stumble in his footprints.

Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: How did this get labeled "commie" on the PITA? Neither the headline nor the comments so far are in support of Chavez.

Have to balance out the PITA with all of them WHARRGARBL articles from NewsBusters, NRO, and American Thinker some how.

For all of you snickering about the whole 'If I keep changing the wording and making you vote on it, eventually you'll pass it' thing, remember the EU constitution guys and gals are doing the same thing.

Dictatorrrrr!!!!!

whidbey: Shaggy_C: I never really liked term limits anyways, they seem to be too geared towards that 'bipartisan' crap that assumes that both sides should switch off power and that will somehow make everything better when in fact it really just creates stagnation in government.

Agreed, if we'd just given Bush just a few more terms, he might have fixed everything and would have retired an international hero.

Do you really thing Bush would have gotten re-elected in 2008? Representative Republics have a habit of taking out the trash, as it were.

Shaggy_C: Good for him; if the people keep voting him into power he deserves to hold it. I never really liked term limits anyways, they seem to be too geared towards that 'bipartisan' crap that assumes that both sides should switch off power and that will somehow make everything better when in fact it really just creates stagnation in government.

Term limits also help to stop wannabe dictators from consolidating power and completely subverting checks and balances by staffing toadies in important positions slowly over the years.

It's a lot easier to become a total dictator when all of your "opponents" have been quietly replaced with henchmen and you've quietly "altered" existing laws over a long period of time.


It's much less easy to do that in a short or even moderate period of time.

whidbey: Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: How did this get labeled "commie" on the PITA? Neither the headline nor the comments so far are in support of Chavez.

Easy. Chavez is a commie dictator. No matter how overwhelmingly he was elected by his own people.

It's only Democracy if you vote our way. Otherwise, you are a dictator.

Uribe in Colombia gets support from the US to do the same thing.

So again,

Pro-US Corporate interests - Unlimited term limits is no big deal
Anti-US Corporate interests - You are a dictator.

zephyy: damn him for allowing the people to democratically remove term limits so he can be democratically elected by the people again in order to fully accomplish his vision, damn that dictator!.

Sometimes people get exactly what they deserve.

I declare everyone in this thread a dictator.

I can, because I'm the dictator of saying who's a dictator.

Here's Venezuela's new flag



Congrats Hugo Palpatine Chavez.

notq: whidbey: Jimmy Devil Rocket Science: How did this get labeled "commie" on the PITA? Neither the headline nor the comments so far are in support of Chavez.

Easy. Chavez is a commie dictator. No matter how overwhelmingly he was elected by his own people.

It's only Democracy if you vote our way. Otherwise, you are a dictator.

Uribe in Colombia gets support from the US to do the same thing.

So again,

Pro-US Corporate interests - Unlimited term limits is no big deal
Anti-US Corporate interests - You are a dictator.

The Hugo Chavez Show

In Colombia, the lifting of term limits was a big story, in good part because the Colombian courts have sentenced the congress member who cast the deciding vote on the amendment to almost four years in prison for taking bribes from Uribe aides (he knew nothing, of course) in exchange for her vote. And though Uribe supporters are collecting signatures to get him on the ballot for 2010 elections, the bribery affair has caused Colombian courts to raise questions about Uribe's eligibility.

Yet Uribe's scandal-ridden term limits law was treated as far less newsworthy by U.S. editors than the Venezuelan government's moves to put the question of term limits to the popular ballot. A search of "Álvaro Uribe and "term limits" in the Nexis database of U.S. newspapers and wires turns up 60 articles, in contrast to 1003 articles about Chávez and term limits. A spot check reveals that even the articles mentioning Uribe and "term limits" were often about Chávez's efforts to lift term limits, not Uribe's.

Similarly, 286 articles mentioned both Chávez and "president for life," while only 29 articles mention Uribe and that epithet--but virtually all of those 29 were again referring to Chávez's perceived power grabs, not Uribe's. (One Associated Press story did compare Uribe to Chávez, but didn't quite apply the term to Uribe: "The wonkish, diminutive but tirelessly tenacious politician [Uribe], who turned 56 on Friday, has been cagey on that score. Those who oppose the idea [of Uribe running again] say it would put him in league with his continental rival, Hugo Chávez of Venezuela, who has been widely branded autocratic for doing his utmost to try to stay president for life.")

This discrepancy reinforces the findings of a recent FAIR study, "Human Rights Coverage Serving Washington's Needs," which found that editors at major U.S. papers portray Colombia as a safer haven for human rights and democracy than Venezuela, despite Colombia's vastly more dismal record.

Shaggy_C: Do you really thing Bush would have gotten re-elected in 2008?

Well, seeing as how we're at war right now, he probably could have made a signing statement that would have held off the elections until Bin Laden was captured. We could have had a national referendum like Chavez's in lieu of unfinished business a new administration's flow would have interrupted.

Hugo Chavez is a prime example of what America should do.

Obama should listen and follow what Louie XVI, Castro, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Chavez, and the presidents of Israel and Iran are doing.

notq: Pro-US Corporate interests - Unlimited term limits is no big deal
Anti-US Corporate interests - You are a dictator.

Even Saddamn knew that. For awhile. Then he got a little too big for his britches...

Funk Brothers: Hugo Chavez is a prime example of what America should do.

Obama should listen and follow what Louie XVI, Castro, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Chavez, and the presidents of Israel and Iran are doing.

waaah, i don't agree with this persons political philosophy so i'm gonna compare to hitler and stalin!

No Term Limits

US Client State



Not a dictator

Independent State



Dictator

This is bad news... for Obama.

whidbey: notq: Pro-US Corporate interests - Unlimited term limits is no big deal
Anti-US Corporate interests - You are a dictator.

Even Saddamn knew that. For awhile. Then he got a little too big for his britches...

That's an interesting story. I can't remember her name right now, but the person who communicated US interests to Saddam had a very interesting tale on how he got out of line.

oregoncat: This is bad news... for Obama.

Yeah, he's gonna have to decide whether he's going to invade or not to vindicate the Bush administration.

Chavez. He called Bush a "Devil." For this he must pay. I'm sure this is one of Obama's first big decisions. He's already burning the midnight oil in the White House.

fritton: Term limits also help to stop wannabe dictators from consolidating power and completely subverting checks and balances by staffing toadies in important positions slowly over the years.

Look at our federal government today though - how many 'toadies' did Obama put into place as soon as he took office? There's thousands of appointments that go in within days of taking the presidency, there's no need for 'years'. I guess the only argument would be the supreme court, but even there it's a matter of public choice, really.

Chavez's 'victory' was secured the same way that the anti-abortion people in California keep trying with

Prop 4

Prop 85

Prop 73

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: BFF4EVR!!!1111111!!!1

America's left sure do love their dictators.

mama's_tasty_foods: I'm sure he's glad Bush only left office recently. His paranoid delusions are harder to sell to the ignorant without the image of the big bad cowboy to rely upon.

There will still be a sizeable Fark FARC contingent to defend him though, and claim "he'll soon be invaded for his oil."

And when he bankrupts his country--- wait for the Fark thread to explain how it's all evil America's fault.

FTFY

Wii.Tard: Chavez's 'victory' was secured the same way that the anti-abortion people in California keep trying with

Prop 4

Prop 85

Prop 73

except he only tried twice and the reason the first time it didn't pass was because there was a bit in it that would centralize powers

notq: In Colombia, the lifting of term limits was a big story, in good part because the Colombian courts have sentenced the congress member who cast the deciding vote on the amendment to almost four years in prison for taking bribes from Uribe aides (he knew nothing, of course) in exchange for her vote. And though Uribe supporters are collecting signatures to get him on the ballot for 2010 elections, the bribery affair has caused Colombian courts to raise questions about Uribe's eligibility.

Yet Uribe's scandal-ridden term limits law was treated as far less newsworthy by U.S. editors than the Venezuelan government's moves to put the question of term limits to the popular ballot. A search of "Álvaro Uribe and "term limits" in the Nexis database of U.S. newspapers and wires turns up 60 articles, in contrast to 1003 articles about Chávez and term limits. A spot check reveals that even the articles mentioning Uribe and "term limits" were often about Chávez's efforts to lift term limits, not Uribe's.

Similarly, 286 articles mentioned both Chávez and "president for life," while only 29 articles mention Uribe and that epithet--but virtually all of those 29 were again referring to Chávez's perceived power grabs, not Uribe's. (One Associated Press story did compare Uribe to Chávez, but didn't quite apply the term to Uribe: "The wonkish, diminutive but tirelessly tenacious politician [Uribe], who turned 56 on Friday, has been cagey on that score. Those who oppose the idea [of Uribe running again] say it would put him in league with his continental rival, Hugo Chávez of Venezuela, who has been widely branded autocratic for doing his utmost to try to stay president for life.")

This discrepancy reinforces the findings of a recent FAIR study, "Human Rights Coverage Serving Washington's Needs," which found that editors at major U.S. papers portray Colombia as a safer haven for human rights and democracy than Venezuela, despite Colombia's vastly more dismal record.

wow, well the US is indeed a vast repository of evil then; now that we see this, it just doesn't matter what a dickhead Chavez is, and we should stop denouncing his crimes and stupidity.

Shaggy_C: fritton: Term limits also help to stop wannabe dictators from consolidating power and completely subverting checks and balances by staffing toadies in important positions slowly over the years.

Look at our federal government today though - how many 'toadies' did Obama put into place as soon as he took office? There's thousands of appointments that go in within days of taking the presidency, there's no need for 'years'. I guess the only argument would be the supreme court, but even there it's a matter of public choice appointment, really.

ftfy