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(Breitbart.com) Interesting States beginning to realize that relaxing goofy liquor laws benefits consumers and increases tax revenue. Note: Utah residents must fill out a form and pay $2 club fee before commenting in this thread   (breitbart.com) divider line 29
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Churchill2004 [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:24:52 PM  
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Systems of legally entrenched monopoly privileges benefit the monopolists and may satisfy moralizing puritans, but hurt consumers through needlessly higher prices and decreased competition. Interview with Adam Smith at 11.

 
baka-san [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:48:31 PM  
the Sunday sales will never go over in Texas, the fundies have a fit when they try to make it ok to buy beer in a dry county.

At least we can by beer and wine on Sunday.

From noon to midnight.

 
supichoo [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 07:12:23 PM  

Oh I can answer it: it's farking retarded. The Mormons legislated farking retarded so farking retarded follows you throughout the entire state.

Yeah, I'd say they have an image problem. They're farking retards.


my feelings pretty well summed up.

 
ptelg 2009-02-15 08:11:51 PM  
Re-lax 'em and tax 'em.

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2009-02-15 08:14:59 PM  
Something that is 'traditional' isn't necessarily correct. Repeal all throwback prohibition laws.

 
Britney Spear's Speculum 2009-02-15 08:16:18 PM  
Britney Spear's Speculum: Something that is 'traditional' isn't necessarily correct. Repeal all throwback prohibition laws.

Note: I DRTFA so my rant doesn't apply to TFA.

 
depmode98 2009-02-15 08:23:53 PM  
here in boston, restaurants have to pay 400k for a liqueur license, which ensures 2 politicians go to jail annually by rigging the liqueur lottery. What great "freedom" we have here in America. you only have to bribe 2 politicians or pay 400k for the right to sell a beverage.

 
GratuityIncluded 2009-02-15 08:26:53 PM  
Coming soon: Moonshine FTW (again)

 
farkuufarkinfark 2009-02-15 08:29:32 PM  
Too bad Pennsylvania is not on this list of relaxing stupid liquor laws.

 
Hand Banana 2009-02-15 08:30:00 PM  
Hope so; not being able to buy liquor on Sunday is retarded.

 
Generation_D [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:42:00 PM  
Washington State will never get rid of the Liquor Board and state-store only alcohol sales.

The do gooders and the fundies are in agreement, we have to keep having it...

We pay 1/3 to 2/3 extra for most distilled spirits than states like California. The entire West is cursed with Prohibition legacy still (outside of California and Nevada).

 
cmunic8r99 [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:44:39 PM  
From makersmark.com:

"Did you know that each bottle of bourbon produced in the Commonwealth is taxed at least five times before reaching our consumer? There is a tax on every case, a property tax on every barrel, a state excise tax, a state wholesale tax and a federal excise tax."

dayum.

 
jjorsett 2009-02-15 08:56:51 PM  
Buying a bottle of wine in Utah in 1993 was the closest thing to a drug buy that I've ever experienced.

 
organizm 2009-02-15 09:16:39 PM  
As I'm now in my fourth month of paying rent and waiting for my wine store license in new York (you need to have a lease to apply. I was told of would take six weeks) I'm most likely going to run out of money and close before I ever open.

 
sarcastrophe 2009-02-15 09:24:01 PM  
jjorsett: Buying a bottle of wine in Utah in 1993 was the closest thing to a drug buy that I've ever experienced.

I bought a bottle of Jack in SC years ago and they had to take my picture in order to sell it to me. It was like getting a mugshot taken in order buy liquor.

 
Nina_Hartley's_Ass 2009-02-15 09:25:51 PM  
I've lived in Kansas my whole life and the funniest thing about these laws are the hoops one has to go through to get around them.

Especially in strip bars. Or so I've heard.

 
spyderqueen 2009-02-15 09:32:24 PM  
No mention of PA and their retarded beer policies. Bleh.

 
discount sushi 2009-02-15 09:52:09 PM  
spyderqueen: No mention of PA and their retarded beer policies. Bleh.

PA takes the cake for worst liquor laws.

 
Daemon Spooler [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:53:30 PM  
I've always wanted to do a Ph.D. dissertation on the history of state liquor laws in the US to see if I could document and (finally) understand them. I'm sure a lot of it is control exercised (before and) after prohibition but there are historical influences and perversions, too, as well as some epiphanies regarding tax revenue. And some laws written purely for/by big business.

Generally, it seems like the older the state, the more convoluted and "ridiculous" the laws. PA and NY and even IN are good examples of the ridiculous, particularly about something as benign as beer. Maine (oddly), by comparison, seems as progressive as California in selling liquor in grocery stores and on Sundays. ID, MT, and OR all have state-owned liquor stores for hard liquor (no Sunday sales) but not much worry about beer and wine out West. Perhaps it merely has to do with the time legislatures have had to screw with everything.

 
God Is My Co-Pirate 2009-02-15 09:55:08 PM  
organizm: As I'm now in my fourth month of paying rent and waiting for my wine store license in new York (you need to have a lease to apply. I was told of would take six weeks) I'm most likely going to run out of money and close before I ever open.

Ugh, that's ridiculous.

 
Nina_Hartley's_Ass 2009-02-15 10:06:50 PM  
discount sushi: PA takes the cake for worst liquor laws.

At least you got Yuengling.

 
Nemo's Brother 2009-02-15 10:56:06 PM  
depmode98: here in boston, restaurants have to pay 400k for a liqueur license, which ensures 2 politicians go to jail annually by rigging the liqueur lottery. What great "freedom" we have here in America. you only have to bribe 2 politicians or pay 400k for the right to sell a beverage.

That is the oppressive arm of neo-marxism.

 
Ramen Pride! 2009-02-16 12:03:13 AM  
"PA takes the cake for worst liquor laws."

Bzzt. Wrong. You can't buy or gift alcohol of any sort in over 50% of Kentucky's counties, in a lot of the rest you can only buy it by the drink at restaurants, or at wineries and golf courses, and in the handful of counties where you can actually purchase beer, wine, or liquor at a liquor store or supermarket, most of those have blue laws which prohibit sunday sales.

Pennsylvania's liquor laws actually seem enlightened and progressive compared to the mess in Kentucky.

 
brynaldo 2009-02-16 12:06:33 AM  
Britney Spear's Speculum: Britney Spear's Speculum: Something that is 'traditional' isn't necessarily correct. Repeal all throwback prohibition laws.

Note: I DRTFA so my rant doesn't apply to TFA.


When does that matter?

:P

 
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym 2009-02-16 12:40:30 AM  
I'll never forget the first time I wandered, hungover, into a pharmacy in Los Angeles on a Sunday morning. I gestured wildly for a bottle of Captain Morgan, grabbed it, and took my prize to the cashier. She told me it was too early to purchase liquor; I stared at her like I was from a foreign land and had no idea what she was trying to communicate. I was that confused.

I stated that I wasn't going to drink it right now, and just wanted to buy it and go back to sleep, saving the intoxicant for later. She said she didn't care, because liquor couldn't be sold during certain hours of the day and week. Behold our beautiful liquor laws.

 
kth [TotalFark] 2009-02-16 01:09:21 AM  
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: discount sushi: PA takes the cake for worst liquor laws.

At least you got Yuengling.


They do allow some good things.

I didn't read the menu closely when I was in Philly on business, and for my second beer with dinner I accidentally ordered one that came in a big bottle. My waitress saw me gazing longingly at the half full bottle, and brought me a cork, so I could take it home.

best. doggie. bag. ever.

 
Pinhead Patriot 2009-02-16 02:45:01 AM  
Yep... They're a monopoly as well...

www.scooterattaboy.com

Brewers Retail Inc., doing business as The Beer Store (TBS), is a privately owned chain of retail outlets in Ontario, Canada, founded in 1927. Ontario government regulations regarding the sales of alcohol gives the chain a near-monopoly of domestic retail beer sales in Ontario. These regulations stipulate that Brewers Retail cannot sell "hard liquor" (spirits), or consumer goods (like groceries). Its only legal competition is found in the beer sections of the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) stores, government-owned outlets which stock beers outside of the Brewers Retail system, and retail outlets at breweries.

 
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym 2009-02-16 02:53:27 AM  
Pinhead Patriot: Brewers Retail Inc., doing business as The Beer Store (TBS), is a privately owned chain of retail outlets in Ontario, Canada, founded in 1927. Ontario government regulations regarding the sales of alcohol gives the chain a near-monopoly of domestic retail beer sales in Ontario. These regulations stipulate that Brewers Retail cannot sell "hard liquor" (spirits), or consumer goods (like groceries). Its only legal competition is found in the beer sections of the Liquor Control Board of Ontario (LCBO) stores, government-owned outlets which stock beers outside of the Brewers Retail system, and retail outlets at breweries.

Well that and the Windsor strippers.

 
WTFFF 2009-02-16 06:49:18 AM  
Liquor laws are insanely stupid in this country.. but alcohol kinda farking blows anyways. Sure being smashed is fun for a few hours, but then you spend the next 12-24 hours recovering depending on how much water, which alcohol somehow manages to make taste like pure shiat, you down before you pass out. And if you were too drunk to make it to the 24 hour mexican food joint that doesn't skin their potatoes before you passed out.. I pray for your asshole in the morning(no homo). And if you DID make it there I still pray for your asshole.

And then there's my sweet sweet Mary Jane..
*pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttt*
Ahhhhhhh. She'll take you out and lift you high into the air for an hour or so and bring you down to a pillow made of clouds. Whats that? You're coming down with a fever? Awww here let Mary biatchslap those ibuprofens out your hand and take you on a little ride. Wait, who's that at the door? Jim Beam? WTF? who invited you? GTFOutta here u fag!!

 
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