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(Mercury News) Interesting 'Art Instinct' theorizes we may be hard-wired by nature to create. Now you have an excuse for your four-volume Han Solo/Chewbaca slash fic cycle   (mercurynews.com) divider line 43
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Procedural Texture [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-02-15 04:53:33 PM  
Does this explain Rule 34 as well?

 
Kevin5280 2009-02-15 04:54:20 PM  
Chewbacca

/what a Wookie

 
Heamer 2009-02-15 05:28:18 PM  
You only need an excuse if you have any friends to begin with.

 
AR55 2009-02-15 05:31:07 PM  
Procedural Texture: Does this explain Rule 34 as well?

rule34.info

 
skinink 2009-02-15 05:31:48 PM  
That's why whenever I get the chance I get my Jackson Pollock swerve on.

 
farbekrieg 2009-02-15 05:34:39 PM  
just because it is fan-fur-fiction doesnt make it any less real to me!

/bow-chica-wookie-WOW!

 
The Invisible Sky Wizard 2009-02-15 05:38:20 PM  
Hooray for nature! Let no badfic go unwritten.

 
Arkanaut 2009-02-15 05:44:02 PM  
If the Colbert bump didn't guarantee healthy sales for this guy, I'm sure the Fark appearance will.

/Just kidding
//Farkers can't read

 
TheJoeY 2009-02-15 05:53:24 PM  
I am so totally about pro-creation.

 
theorellior 2009-02-15 05:54:30 PM  
Well, there is a small but nonzero chance that writing fanfic will get you laid, if you're at the right con and in the right company.

So, basically, this guy could be right.

 
albuquerquehalsey 2009-02-15 05:55:06 PM  
www.indebraendt.dk

 
Raging Thespian [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:07:12 PM  
Oh come on! I'm sure running a GIS on rule 34 can't be that- ...Oh. Dear. God.

 
thereadlines [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:09:36 PM  
"All civilization was just an effort to impress the opposite sex."

"SCIENCE"
"SPORTS"
"TECHNOLOGY"
"WAR"
"CRIME"

"And sometimes the same sex."

"DRAMA"

"Now, let's skip forward 80 years into the future. Where is Billy?"

 
FirstDennis 2009-02-15 06:10:46 PM  
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The Bible says we are made in God's image.

God is the most creative force ever.
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nekulor [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:13:45 PM  
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The Bible says we are made in God's image.

God is the most creative force ever.
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This.

Which makes me wonder, how did God get the idea for sex? I feel like that isn't something you come up with on a whim.

 
nottheman 2009-02-15 06:15:12 PM  
No shiat. Every human behavior stems from human evolution. 200 years after Darwin and people are still surprised? I bet you guys think you have religious free will too.

 
nottheman 2009-02-15 06:16:27 PM  
?The Bible says we are made in God's image

The bible also says never to mix fabric materials, rotate crops, and to always murder homosexuals. Your days are over monotheistic caveman.

 
cowgirl toffee [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:24:25 PM  
webpages.charter.net

 
reillan 2009-02-15 06:26:55 PM  
nottheman: ?The Bible says we are made in God's image

The bible also says never to mix fabric materials, rotate crops, and to always murder homosexuals. Your days are over monotheistic caveman.


The rotate crops thing seems like it's still a pretty good idea. As are all the rules regarding mold, keeping contagious diseases out of the community, and not sleeping with your immediate family. But no, let's only focus on the homosexual murdering, that's best.

 
Raging Thespian [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:32:33 PM  
nekulor: Which makes me wonder, how did God get the idea for sex? I feel like that isn't something you come up with on a whim.

Well, he was probably masturbating one day and decided it might be more fun with more people.

 
jso2897 2009-02-15 06:32:45 PM  
reillan: nottheman: ?The Bible says we are made in God's image

The bible also says never to mix fabric materials, rotate crops, and to always murder homosexuals. Your days are over monotheistic caveman.

The rotate crops thing seems like it's still a pretty good idea. As are all the rules regarding mold, keeping contagious diseases out of the community, and not sleeping with your immediate family. But no, let's only focus on the homosexual murdering, that's best.


Nothing like a good round of homosexual-murdering to pique the appetite, I always say.

 
whammer 2009-02-15 06:32:52 PM  
There's a big difference between creative art and derivation. Derivation is like Photoshopping, and it can be very clever, but it is just synthesis. Combining of known elements to create a combination of elements.

Creative art, on the other hand, has to take those who see it, at least initially, down a new perceptual road without familiar elements, the mental and emotional "roadsigns" we are used to. And this is transitory, as those who follow the path recreate the novel as familiar elements and make the roadsigns which take away from the novelty. They synthesize the novel with the familiar, and thus "normalize" it.

Artistic creativity has been described as like taking a walk on a dark night. Out of the corner of your eye you spot something moving in a bush, and your mind is briefly filled with a notion that it is some "thing", and it is alive, and it is a little scary. This is the "creative moment". However, we are then compelled to stare at whatever it is, until we can "positively identify" it. And this kills it dead.

It stops being creative and becomes something mundane, like a plastic bag caught in a bush and fluttering in a gentle breeze. For a brief moment, it was art. But through the force of analyzing it, the artistic edge has been lost.

A real artist can grab a creative moment and hang on to it, without killing it, and use that new intellectual and emotional pathway to introduce novelty into their art. If they are skilled enough, they might convey just a bit of "the spirit of the thing", that can be sensed by those who view their art. Some of the better artists even go into trance states to help them evade the part of the mind that kills art dead.

 
oxymephorous 2009-02-15 06:39:08 PM  
whammer: There's a big difference between creative art and derivation....blah blah blah kills art dead.

I am an artist and the only thing I got out of that was some stuff about trash bags and the dark. I am having terrible flashbacks of art school now, thanks.

 
LamOtter 2009-02-15 07:00:32 PM  
Paradigms become bonerdigms when sufficiently stimulated!

 
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym 2009-02-15 07:02:57 PM  
oxymephorous: I am an artist and the only thing I got out of that was some stuff about trash bags and the dark. I am having terrible flashbacks of art school now, thanks.

Yeah, that post reeked of a woman who drinks her own menstrual blood on stage as a means to deconstruct reality.

 
Fano 2009-02-15 07:16:35 PM  
oxymephorous: whammer: There's a big difference between creative art and derivation....blah blah blah kills art dead.

I am an artist and the only thing I got out of that was some stuff about trash bags and the dark. I am having terrible flashbacks of art school now, thanks.


Sssh. That's the dean at this art school:

www.pebblesfromparadise.com

He's justifying himself.

 
Gordon Bennett 2009-02-15 07:17:14 PM  
..Han looked up, still flush with the heady aroma of Wookie sweat and funk. He dredged several long, brown hairs out from between his teeth.

"I needed that" he said.

"Mrrrraaaarrrrghh." replied Chewbacca.

 
Fano 2009-02-15 07:20:19 PM  
Does anyonw have the rule 34 Leia and C3PO from an old Fanzine?

 
Gordon Bennett 2009-02-15 07:28:10 PM  
...Princess Leia pounded on the door once again. "What the hell is going on in there?" she shouted. "It sounds like a bulldog eating rice pudding."

"Easy, pal" said Han, gently patting Chewbacca's head. "And be careful with those teeth."

"Mrrrrrgggrmmpf," he replied.

 
Catlike Typist 2009-02-15 07:30:48 PM  
whammer: Some of the better artists even go into trance states to help them evade the part of the mind that kills art dead.

It's not really a rare thing; I'd say it's roughly equivalent to self-hypnosis. All my fellow art majors to who I mentioned it had also discovered it for themselves.

Unfortunately, the part of the brain shut down by the artistic trance state controls some language functions, and can be slow to start up after the trance/hypnosis session... resulting in some intensely frustrating inarticulacy and "idiot artist" stereotype perpetuation. :\


/no, I haven't drawn in a while

 
whammer 2009-02-15 07:32:04 PM  
oxymephorous: Maybe you should ditch your dead end career in art for a dead end career in journalism.

 
Selfabortion 2009-02-15 07:33:56 PM  
No obvious tag?

 
oxymephorous 2009-02-15 07:49:23 PM  
whammer: oxymephorous: Maybe you should ditch your dead end career in art for a dead end career in journalism.

ART IS SERIOSE BIZNISS, LULZ.

Please, tell us another story about the trash bags.

 
The Invisible Sky Wizard 2009-02-15 07:59:59 PM  
Gordon Bennett: ..Han looked up, still flush with the heady aroma of Wookie sweat and funk. He dredged several long, brown hairs out from between his teeth.

"I needed that" he said.

"Mrrrraaaarrrrghh." replied Chewbacca.


Dear god.

 
xlbrooklyn [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:05:45 PM  
Gordon Bennett: ..Han looked up, still flush with the heady aroma of Wookie sweat and funk. He dredged several long, brown hairs out from between his teeth.

"I needed that" he said.

"Mrrrraaaarrrrghh." replied Chewbacca.


Why? Why did you do this to me?

 
xlbrooklyn [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:06:42 PM  
The Invisible Sky Wizard: Dear god.

God had nothing to do with it. After Gordon's post, I know now that there is now god. :(

 
ThePuceGuardian 2009-02-15 08:07:34 PM  
Gordon Bennett: needed

... go on.

 
Gyrfalcon [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:28:47 PM  
Procedural Texture: Does this explain Rule 34 as well?

Other way around. Rule 34 explains "Art Instinct" theory.

 
geniusiknowit [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:19:56 PM  
:-D

Hamtaro porn!

 
selloco 2009-02-15 10:02:47 PM  
That would explain why the least creative people are politicians.

 
Procedural Texture [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-02-15 11:40:03 PM  
nekulor: Which makes me wonder, how did God get the idea for sex? I feel like that isn't something you come up with on a whim.

During game balancing, God came up with the idea of sex to force co-op play.
While it made for some exciting moments, it wasn't well thought out. Not only did the addition to the codebase introduce a lot of bugs and exploits, but it also made possible every known form of griefing.

 
Braindeath 2009-02-16 12:09:05 AM  
oxymephorous: whammer: oxymephorous: Maybe you should ditch your dead end career in art for a dead end career in journalism.

ART IS SERIOSE BIZNISS, LULZ.

Please, tell us another story about the trash bags.


You are now on my favorites list Ms. Oxy. I like your jewelry designs.

Virtually all art is remixing elements. Actual creation of something new is extremely rare, and derivation doesn't mean it's less worthy or thought provoking. Mouthing off about other people's creative paths to make yourself look pure is pointless. Art is more than creation, it's producing an emotional response in the viewer - If people can't read what you wrote, then you're only talking to yourself.

 
EmptyLighter 2009-02-16 04:49:31 AM  
whammer:
A real artist can grab a creative moment and hang on to it, without killing it, and use that new intellectual and emotional pathway to introduce novelty into their art. If they are skilled enough, they might convey just a bit of "the spirit of the thing", that can be sensed by those who view their art. Some of the better artists even go into trance states to help them evade the part of the mind that kills art dead.

It isn't blah blah. This is quite good. People who are non-creatives and unobservant (the "I don't know about art, but i know what i like" farmhand types) always want explanations and justifications for art "my 4 year old could do". This is a good explanation. In that quizzical and implosive moment, that is art. If a person can retain and re-present it to a viewer, they are an artist.

As for the trance part, that is also 100% true. I have a particular playlist on my iPod just "For Work", which helps me zone out and focus very immediately on the task at hand. I block out everything when I get in that mindset; hunger, tiredness, daylight, my roommate yelling about something on fire, my cellphone, etc. The product of that kind of trance is always much, much better (purer, clearer, better technique) than if I'm distracted or "forcing it".

Braindeath:

Virtually all art is remixing elements. ...Art is more than creation, it's producing an emotional response in the viewer - If people can't read what you wrote, then you're only talking to yourself.


My Illustration professor explained briefly to us that Studio Art is the artist talking to himself about himself, and only the artist is really meant to understand the depth of his work; Graphic Design and Illustration are the artist trying to talk to others about something unrelated to them both (such as a story).
Many artists fall in love with their work, because they've so perfectly expressed how they felt about something, and it means so much to them... but if no one else can feel any connection to it, with the death of that artist the art also dies.

 
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