They (Republicans) are a rudderless ship on the ocean

"Cut the nose to spite the face."

Which in Republispeak becomes: "Cut those despite the face."

Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

So are these tax cuts good or bad?

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

Exactly. Only the dems are ever bad or nasty and everyone else are just poor picked on victims of persecution.

At least now the Republicans will be sincere when they offer up their Sunday prayers for Obama to fail. Because if he doesn't, the GOP is going the way of the Whigs, the Know-Nothings and the Greens.

Mordant: Exactly. Only the dems are ever bad or nasty and everyone else are just poor picked on victims of persecution.

I totally remember when the Dems threatened the nuclear option when the rule of law didn't go their way. They're just that nasty.

EvilEgg: Mordant: Exactly. Only the dems are ever bad or nasty and everyone else are just poor picked on victims of persecution.

I totally remember when the Dems threatened the nuclear option when the rule of law didn't go their way. They're just that nasty.

Maybe this was Venezuela when that happened, all I know is that it's not Venezuela now.

GaryPDX: Democrat Party

Don't be dumb on purpose. You've got enough accidental idiocy.

If you coat a turd with sugar people will turn down SUGAR! Hard to believe.

Mordant: Maybe this was Venezuela when that happened, all I know is that it's not Venezuela now.

Must have been, because pork spending and running up the debt were good at that time.

Regardless of what you think of the rest of it, just looking at the tax cuts. . .when Bush gave tax cuts to the wealthy, they were tax cuts. When they're aimed at the working and middle class, they're welfare! Genius!

slepygryhnd: Regardless of what you think of the rest of it, just looking at the tax cuts. . .when Bush gave tax cuts to the wealthy, they were tax cuts. When they're aimed at the working and middle class, they're welfare! Genius!

Don't pick on the wealthy. If they are over taxed then how are they going to afford to buy those Senate Seats?

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

The last eight years didn't show it. In fact, quite the opposite. If Obama tried to rule with Executive Orders like the Kennebunkport Cowboy did you Repugnicans would have a stroke!

/Greedy Old People

arkansas: If you coat a turd with sugar people will turn down SUGAR! Hard to believe.

I think members of Congress should have a line-item vote, where they can vote for or against any section of a bill. Remove everything that doesn't have enough votes, and vote for the remaining sections. Continue until all the parts of the bill are voted for by a majority. Then you could hold them accountable for voting for or against a particular section of a thousand-page bill.

Though I have to admit, I *am* looking forward to the Saving Widows and Orphans While Giving Our Opponents Atomic Wedgies Act of 2012.

/"My opponent voted against saving widows and orphans!"

lajimi: GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

The last eight years didn't show it. In fact, quite the opposite. If Obama tried to rule with Executive Orders like the Kennebunkport Cowboy did you Repugnicans would have a stroke!

/Greedy Old People

You've been programmed well, Comrade. Tell me something, if the roads and bridges are falling down, what happened to this 286.4 Trillion Dollars (new window)? don't even try to tell me the Republicans spent it somewhere else. Who, exactly, are the lying liars? That was just 4 years ago. I'd sure like to know where that money went, wouldn't you?

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

That seems to be your new mantra, since you post it in every farking thread. And, like everything else you post, it makes no sense and has no relevance to the topic.

What's more, let's also not forget that Obama's tax-cut plan in the recovery package is not only arguably bigger than previous cuts, but also better targeted.

In other words, an attempt to reward traditionally Democratic voters for their support. As the article goes on to say, it's not a tax cut at all in many cases. If you give $200 to somebody who owes no taxes you have not cut taxes by $200.

GaryPDX: what happened to this 286.4 Trillion Dollars

wow... we are in debt

ZAZ: If you give $200 to somebody who owes no taxes you have not cut taxes by $200.

Please tell us- who in America pays NO taxes?

/you do realize there are lots of taxes besides income taxes?

I'm sorry..BILLION..B

propasaurus: GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

That seems to be your new mantra, since you post it in every farking thread. And, like everything else you post, it makes no sense and has no relevance to the topic.

It has every relevance..too many people believe this is a democracy..it isn't. That's a big giant problem.

To be fair, the tax cuts aren't aimed at the wealthy, so why should the Republicans be for them?

many Republicans are probably worried that they may see some of the benefit now, instead of later when they are wealthy small business owners with plans to buy successful plumbing operations. You have to plan ahead for the probable future, after all.

GaryPDX: propasaurus: GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

That seems to be your new mantra, since you post it in every farking thread. And, like everything else you post, it makes no sense and has no relevance to the topic.

It has every relevance..too many people believe this is a democracy..it isn't. That's a big giant problem.

Mob rule in a 52/48 slight majority stripped the marriage rights from gay people in California.

But the tax cuts weren't given to the right people. Its all going to people that are going to spend it on food and rent rather than oil companies and military contractors.

Because it was offset with framework for socialism. FOAD Obama.

Triaxis: Because it was offset with framework for socialism. FOAD Obama.

And the Bank Bailout, the government purchasing bank loans, wasn't Socialism? The GOP seemed to have been for that.

Nice spin subby. Well played.

I thought the last 2 elections proved that no one gives a fark what the GOP thinks about anything at the moment, so why start now?

Marcus Aurelius: To be fair, the tax cuts aren't aimed at the wealthy, so why should the Republicans be for them?

that's not a fair statement...

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

That's a sad story, Mr. Gary. And I do believe, that's the.... dumbest thing I've heard any fool say... ever.

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

I've gotta ask. Do you even know what the f*ck you're talking about anymore? Who the hell is even talking about Mob Rule?

Stay the course, Republicans! It's the only way to make the stupidest Americans (i.e. your precious 26% base) realize what utter pieces of shiat you are.

The rest of us figured it out back in the '90s.

JuanSchwartz [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 11:37:45 AM
"Mob rule in a 52/48 slight majority stripped the marriage rights from gay people in California."

Shhhhhhh! Don't you know that this is only a Democracy when the outcome favours Republicans?

But... but... the PORK!

I knew the libs were up to something when they released the text of the stimulus package in an unsearchable PDF...

GOP: Garbl you can whrr in.

arkansas: If you coat a turd with sugar people will turn down SUGAR! Hard to believe.

Except that in this case, the country is diabetic and the GOP's only answer is "MORE SUGAR."

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

Careful, your independence is showing.

I like me some sammiches, but if some gives me a shiat sammich, I'm not eating it.

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

The tune you were singing from 2000-2008 sounded much different. New Admin, new standards?

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat [sic] Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

Well, thank you, Mr. "Democrat [sic] Party", for being mature about this. Sheesh.

You guys have called Deomcrats terrorists for the past eight years, and now you whine about supposed Democratic nastiness like someone saying the Republicans voted against tax cuts. The horror, the horror.

oldebayer: At least now the Republicans will be sincere when they offer up their Sunday prayers for Obama to fail.

They really do that, you know.

"He is a man possessed. He is possessed with a thirst for power and with a hatred of our way of life. He is possessed with an idealogy that has been bred into him that American capitalism and patriotism is bad, that white people are generally evil, and that the government should be all powerful in everyone's life. With that kind of pervasive world view, Lord, any attempt to convince him of the truth is useless. He is blinded by years of deceit; and only You can change it. Changing Barack Obama is what we pray that You would do.

Lord, we ask that You would prevent him from overturning this Republic. We ask that You would restore freedom in this land already destroyed. But even more than this we ask that you would destroy the work of Satan in this man & the federal government's lives. Though they stir up great anger within us by their actions, help us to remember that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and that only by appealing to and relying on You can we have victory." (new window)

Heh. That is some good spin. 1) They aren't exactly cuts (much is giong to people who don't pay federal income taxes to begin with) and 2) As a GDP grows, every future tax cut is generally bigger than the previous one.

Snarfangel: So are these tax cuts good or bad?

They are very similar to the $152 billion stimulus us back in February of 2008. We all know well that turned out.

GaryPDX: Why would anyone that doesn't wear a Democrat Party pin want to play ball? You guys are just nasty to anyone who doesn't agree with you. It's like some stupid high school clique. BTW, We're a Republic, not a Democrazy. That means Rule of Law prevails, NOT mob rule. This isn't Venezuela.

... Dude. The sheer level of cognitive dissonance... It's mind blowing.

How can you even post that, knowing that your party of choice did the EXACT SAME THING except roughly fifty times worse when they were in power?

Seriously, isn't the hypocrisy even slightly troubling?

Yep and dems just voted for a large decrease in the taxes for the top 20%. In fact this almost took up 10% of the total spending and accounted for 25% of the tax cuts. Yaaa dems all for them fat cats.

slepygryhnd 2009-02-15 10:57:37 AM Regardless of what you think of the rest of it, just looking at the tax cuts. . .when Bush gave tax cuts to the wealthy, they were tax cuts. When they're aimed at the working and middle class, they're welfare! Genius
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Yup! When republicans give money to the wealthy, it's good ol fashioned tax cuts.

When dems want to give money to the poor who need it, it's commie socialism.

/Facepalm.

Two four six eight. Everybody stimulate.
Ok, sorry, that's just rude.

Idea on how to stimulate spending in the economy...

Give the money to the Real Housewives of Orange County and let them go shopping.

We'll be solvent in a week!