Here's the new sizing chart:

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Obese Anglo trifecta in play?

Stupid fat Americans.

When ever I read about the increase in obesity it makes me think of the people in Wall-E.

Deja vu.

Just give them muumuus and send them waddling off to school.

YoungSwedishBlonde: Stupid fat Americans.

You have a lack of reading comprehension. This article is about the British. Your last Stupid fat American comment was about the Aussies. If you are going to be troll at least get the nationalities right.

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Beat me to it, berylman

Old News...Lane Bryant has been doing this for years!

I'm like, really frustrated about weight in general right now.

First off, I see terribly obese people that don't care. Then I see really, really, really skinny people.

I'm an average, healthy weight. Not overweight, not underweight. Classical female hourglass. The sad thing is I actually want to be undeweight, I see myself as fat for being a healthy weight. And no matter how much I try to convince myself I'm fine, it doesn't work. I don't know the last time I've sat down at a meal and not felt like a pig for eating.

Now, I'm not the only girl feeling this way. I'm just curious why my (and other girl's) perceptions (I'm fat because I am healthy) are that way when people are steadily getting fatter around me and I'm becoming the minority.

/sorry, this article just triggered that

Darkraven: I'm just curious why my (and other girl's) perceptions (I'm fat because I am healthy) are that way when people are steadily getting fatter around me and I'm becoming the minority.

Cultural expectations? Something from your childhood? Social pressure?

I don't think you have anything to worry about with your weight, and are quite attractive.

otterly_delicious: YoungSwedishBlonde: Stupid fat Americans.

You have a lack of reading comprehension. This article is about the British. Your last Stupid fat American comment was about the Aussies. If you are going to be troll at least get the nationalities right.

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DarkRaven:You are not healthy but severely malnourished. This what a healthy human should look like.

Are they just changing the sizes the clothes are available in, or are they changing the numbers on the sizes? They keep changing the numbers on the sizes for women's clothes, and I now have to buy either size 00 or shop in the children's section to get things that fit. That bothers me. If they are just making a wider selection of sizes available, that I haven't much problem with.

By the way, I am about 4'11", so that really isn't as hideously underweight as it sounds. If I were 5'6" or so, the size 00 might be an issue, but at my size it's just right.

Darkraven:

Stupid men world.

Darkraven

Stop reading women's magazines.

Darkraven, it also doesn't help that hourglass figure pants are hard to find at the popular fashion stores at the mall. Hellishly frustrating to see a nice pair of pants on the floor model, go try them on and discover that "oh hell no. This cut doesn't work for curvy bottoms."

:P At least I can laugh at myself in the mirror now.

It used to be that a kid's age was relatively close to their clothing size, but it's all bets off now trying to dress the little snots. I have hated shopping for clothes for years, and this news just reinforces my loathing. What is it about the delicate feminine psyche that we can't get our clothes sized likes men's clothing? It is so easy to wander into a men's store and get Mr. Taggart something that fits within about 3 minutes. I farking hate shopping.

My 84 year old dad secretly married a 60 year old goldigger... He's such an idiot, we hired a PI and found out about it. He wasn't going to tell us! He claims he married her just so "she can have my pension when I die"... They don't even live in the same state. She picked him out because he's old and has no prostate, so she doesn't have to "get busy" with him.

Anyhow Chris Pettit, who has the Native American name of Whale who Walks, is SOOOO fat that she had a lapband surgery done and lost 200 pounds but is STILL MORBIDLY OBESE. Here's hoping she gets a DVT on her flight to New Zealand later this year....

She's a fatty fat fat fat!

Darkraven: I'm like, really frustrated about weight in general right now.

Number one, take some happy pills. I have friends that'd die to look like you.

Number two, whenever you see one of those girls that wears skinny jeans and looks good, remember-the second their metabolism goes they're gonna be working five times as hard as you ever will to look half as good as you.

That help? :)

. . . A thought. Why alter children's clothes at all? Wouldn't refusing to change sizes - and making larger sizes all but unattainable - send a message to the parents to stop feeding their fatty children?

So basically they are taking the husky labels off and replacing them with slim?

\ obscure?

What the hell are they going to call my 32x30s now? At least I don't shop over there.

starsrift: . . . A thought. Why alter children's clothes at all? Wouldn't refusing to change sizes - and making larger sizes all but unattainable - send a message to the parents to stop feeding their fatty children?

They want to sell clothes. That's all they want.

gothelder: So basically they are taking the husky labels off and replacing them with slim?

\ obscure?

Ooooohkaaaaay...

(Brother Boy FTW!)

Arthur Prefect: Darkraven, it also doesn't help that hourglass figure pants are hard to find at the popular fashion stores at the mall. Hellishly frustrating to see a nice pair of pants on the floor model, go try them on and discover that "oh hell no. This cut doesn't work for curvy bottoms."

:P At least I can laugh at myself in the mirror now.

So, so true. Skirts are my friend. And while we're at it, can we please reclaim "curvy?"

Seriously I just want to go into a store and buy pants without having to try them on please.

5'5" 145# 34-28-36

I own jeans in a size 3, size 4, size 5, size 7 and size 8-all fit exactly the same-WTF?

I'm a 5'8' female and fit into "medium" sized clothes at many retailers. I'm almost as tall as the average dude, not petite and a bit overweight and fit into women's mediums?! My mom couldn't believe I'm a size 8 because that's what she used to wear as a pre-teen.

Sizing shouldn't change. It lets fatties hang onto their state of denial.

So they are just resizing to US sizes? British size clothing is cut a couple of sizes smaller or so I found. I like it at least. I go back to a medium large from an extra large when I am in the US.

Darkraven: Im in the same boat as you. Healthy figure, wanting to be unhealthy. Its very sad when I see someone really skinny wondering how low can I go.

I spent most of my childhood in dance class and I have the hourglass/pear figure. Didnt fit in one bit with the rest of the group.

Im carrying a couple extra "grad school" and "consulting" pounds and now that Im out in the real world again and can afford good food, Im trying to take it off wondering if Ive screwed up my metabolism from undergrad when I didnt eat a whole lot.

Since Im 5 feet tall, I need most of my pants tailored to really fit right. I hate hate hate shopping for clothes.

The quality of clothes have also gone way down. I have some stuff I bought in 2001 that looks fantastic but the jeans I bought a couple months ago are falling apart and need replacing. Anyone else notice that?

I think I see a way for the US to make money in manufacturing. We have had obese kids here for decades and know how to size up the clothes, and since the rest of the world seems to be having issues with this (forming study groups and scanning 6000 fat kids and probably still getting the sizes wrong)...we should make and export fat kids clothes to the rest of the world.

Coastalgrl

The quality of clothes have also gone way down. I have some stuff I bought in 2001 that looks fantastic but the jeans I bought a couple months ago are falling apart and need replacing. Anyone else notice that?

That's definitely true even in men's clothes. I can buy jeans now that will shrink way too much and then they all seem to wear out pretty quick. The material is much thinner now that it used to be. My mom is convinced that you can check the label on clothing, even from the same manufacturer, to see where it's made. She says the material and quality when made in some countries is better than others. Of course, nothing is made here in the US anymore so, I don't know. I'd think the big names would use the same materials no matter where it is made, but maybe not.

I'm not surprised by this in the slightest. My youngest stepdaughter is 6, but is now wearing girls' size 12 knickers, which is up from the size 10s that she's been wearing since the fall.

Last year we couldn't find any pants that fit decently (aside from sweatpants) so we finally ended up buying girls' size 10 capri jeans for her as her jeans.

Ask her mom about her weight, though, and prepare to be blasted. Once claimed it was "baby fat." Uh huh.

BlaqueKatt: Seriously I just want to go into a store and buy pants without having to try them on please.

5'5" 145# 34-28-36

I own jeans in a size 3, size 4, size 5, size 7 and size 8-all fit exactly the same-WTF?

You must be a very solid, toned 145# - because I'm also 5'5" and 140-145 (depending on time of the month), but spread out to 36-28-40. I'm flabby, though.

In the past few months, I have bought cheap khakis in a 12 (time to step AWAY from the beer and baked goods, Fatass!) and $50 jeans in an 8 (what a good girl we've been!). The jeans are a bit loose, but I couldn't have gone any smaller on the khakis in the hips and looked decent.

Vanity sizing must go. I'll accept being called a size 14 and the biggest gal who can buy clothes in the misses' section if they'll just take one set of measurements and STICK TO IT. Sure, I'd probably have to keep getting the waist taken in for things to fit nicely, but it's the price I'm willing to pay to spend as little time as possible in a clothing shop.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with increasingly powerful bovine growth hormone in dairy and beef products.

I think we will need further photographical evidence in this thread to determine how fit the farkettes are.

Coastalgrl: The quality of clothes have also gone way down. I have some stuff I bought in 2001 that looks fantastic but the jeans I bought a couple months ago are falling apart and need replacing. Anyone else notice that?

Very true, and it's even happening in the highest end brands. The book "Deluxe: How luxury lost its lustre" talks about a pair of silk Prada trousers ripping because they're now cutting corners by getting cheap thread from China.

I noticed something disconcerting when my husband and I visited my mom's British cousin and his family up around Liverpool: our cousin and his wife were in their 60's and a bit overweight, liked their beer and wine perhaps a bit to excess, but ate normal home-cooked food along with occasional pub-grub and assumed that's what we wanted (correct.) They usually walked home from the pub, at least a mile from their house, and didn't seem to think it was any sort of serious exertion.

Their son and his family were living with them while their new home was being renovated. The wife was quite obese and more tragically, the 8 and 13 year old granddaughters were also definitely overweight. She brought them farking MCDONALDS at least twice in the two days we were there, even when their grandmother was making some unremarkable but inoffensive baked chicken-type dishes with actual vegetables. I thought this was quite rude of her, on top of being bad for the girls. My cousin's wife seems to have given up trying to get them to eat her healthier, better food.

She took the girls out biking one of the mornings we were there, and lamented to my husband while the rest of us were away about her granddaughters' fitness and diet. It's sad when a grandmother with a smoking habit can outpace her school-age granddaughters on a bike ride.

Melora Creager: Are they just changing the sizes the clothes are available in, or are they changing the numbers on the sizes? They keep changing the numbers on the sizes for women's clothes, and I now have to buy either size 00 or shop in the children's section to get things that fit. That bothers me. If they are just making a wider selection of sizes available, that I haven't much problem with.

What sucks is that the 00's are usually available only online, so I don't get to try them on before I buy them. farking fatties have all sorts of clothes to choose from at the shops.

Texmandie: I noticed something disconcerting when my husband and I visited my mom's British cousin and his family up around Liverpool: our cousin and his wife were in their 60's and a bit overweight, liked their beer and wine perhaps a bit to excess, but ate normal home-cooked food along with occasional pub-grub and assumed that's what we wanted (correct.) They usually walked home from the pub, at least a mile from their house, and didn't seem to think it was any sort of serious exertion.

Their son and his family were living with them while their new home was being renovated. The wife was quite obese and more tragically, the 8 and 13 year old granddaughters were also definitely overweight. She brought them farking MCDONALDS at least twice in the two days we were there, even when their grandmother was making some unremarkable but inoffensive baked chicken-type dishes with actual vegetables. I thought this was quite rude of her, on top of being bad for the girls. My cousin's wife seems to have given up trying to get them to eat her healthier, better food.

She took the girls out biking one of the mornings we were there, and lamented to my husband while the rest of us were away about her granddaughters' fitness and diet. It's sad when a grandmother with a smoking habit can outpace her school-age granddaughters on a bike ride.

I work in a department store and am seeing more and fatty-fat schoolchildren. They are fatter than their parents, even. The argument that it's unsafe for the precious little brats to be outside is bogus, since I live in a very safe city.

mike965: When ever I read about the increase in obesity it makes me think of the people in Wall-E.

Me too. I think about them all falling off their chairs and shloomping along as the ship tilts.

I am fed up with the way they have adjusted children's clothing sizes here in the states. Like someone said above, the number on the clothes usually correlated with the child's age. The clothes are too big. My poor 3-year-old is in the 95th percentile for height and the 25th for weight. He's a tall, skinny kid. Finding clothes that fit right is impossible. Shirts that fit right across his chest hang above his belly button, so we have to go for larger shirts that are too baggy in order to cover his torso. He couldn't keep size 2t pants up on his little hips until he was three, but the 18 month pants that fit made him look ready for a flood. Very frustrating.

Texmandie: You must be a very solid, toned 145#

yup gotta love being former military ;)

did i miss a memo? is today faturday?

jonnypeh : I think we will need further photographical evidence in this thread to determine how fit the farkettes are.

Aw, Heil no!! Ain't no way I will feed the basement dwellers around here. I am not morbidly obese, probably need to lose 25 pounds, but know how to dress to minimize it. Fortunately, I'm almost 6 ft, so 200 lbs is ok with my doctor. And Mr. Taggart;)

Women's sizes already look like a Reno Roulette Wheel: they have sizes 0, 00, 000 and 1 through 36.

Men's sizes, here in America, are pointless gibberish, just like women's sizes.