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(Chicago Sun-Times) Followup Remember when Roland Burris said under oath that he was never asked to give a donation to Blagojevich? That's a perjurin'   (blogs.suntimes.com) divider line 89
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sloppy shoes 2009-02-15 01:24:48 AM  
Drop him.

 
feckingmorons [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 01:26:32 AM  
He is a Democrat from Chicagoland, were we to expect otherwise?

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 01:28:16 AM  
God, I knew that turd would eventually float to the top of the bowl. F you long and hard, Blagodicks. Illinois wasn't big enough; you had to make sure you sprayed your fail all over the whole damn nation.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 01:30:20 AM  
Duh.

 
davidphogan [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 01:45:14 AM  
I had a feeling this could get interesting.

 
kmmontandon [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 02:38:53 AM  
PoopStain:

I sincerely hope the Republicans in Illinois will use this to their advantage,


Why are you assuming that Chicago Republicans aren't corrupt?

 
Cog [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 03:31:36 AM  
100% chance there will be 0% consequences. Race card will be played too.

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 03:44:32 AM  
We had a major league situation facing us.

And, like true Chicagoans, they choked immediately.

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 03:44:39 AM  
Cog: Race card will be played too.

Surely you jest.

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 04:20:46 AM  
PoopStain: Hold the party responsible - they support him.

Easy man, you don't want to awaken Daley's fury.
According to Chicago legend, the New Madrid fault line was caused by Mayor Daley XXVII smacking someone into the sky then spiking him volley ball style into southern Illinois so hard it broke the speed of light, went back in time, killed the dinosaurs and cracked the tectonic plate.

 
vartian [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 04:38:36 AM  
PoopStain: kmmontandon: Why are you assuming that Chicago Republicans aren't corrupt?

Actually, since you are assuming the Democrats are corrupt, you prove yourself to be worthless.

Bye.


Just brimming with self-righteous anger. There is simply no way you people can sustain this over four eight years.

 
Cubansaltyballs [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 05:56:45 AM  
15 posts in... you guys are disappointing me.

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ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:36:13 AM  

Is there a specific question which he gave a false answer to?

You can sometimes leave out information or be misleading without committing perjury. The Supreme Court says in federal perjury cases misleading by "negative implication" of a nonresponsive answer is not a crime. The questioner is supposed to ask followups to confirm the implication.

The questioning that resulted in a perjury conviction went like this:

Q. Do you have any bank accounts in Swiss banks, Mr. Bronston?

A. No, sir.

Q. Have you ever?

A. The company had an account there for about six months, in Zurich.
The second answer was literally true, but misleading. In fact both the man and the company had had accounts. By mentioning only the company's account, about which he was not asked, the man implied that he never had one of his own. Because the answer was literally true, the Supreme Court reversed his conviction. The lawyer asking the questions should have clarified, "No, Mr. Bronston, did you ever have any accounts there?"

 
Il Douchey [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 06:52:01 AM  
Pity the would be corrupt politician; it's getting harder and harder to be a scumbag discretely. The game has changed. They are still willing to play; Burris, Daschle, Richardson, Geithner and Blago have made that clear -but they are no longer able. Tighter rules, better techniques and wider surveilance are exposing uncomfortable information and demanding accountability.

The moral problem was easy; they could wag their finger and lie to our faces with the best of them. But without control of the narrative, lairs must resort to excuses like "mistakes" "forgettings" and confusion over the meaning of the word "is".

 
soy_bomb 2009-02-15 07:40:32 AM  
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It's not corruption when we do it!

 
Robopuppy Mistreatment 2009-02-15 07:51:00 AM  
This corruption is getting out of hand. We need to whip a courthouse and use an engineer to rush the Forbidden Palace in Chicago if we're to have any hope of getting out of this.

 
drumdaddyjb 2009-02-15 08:06:04 AM  
Its almost like the 80's when the mafia all started breaking the "code." Suddenly, corruption that most of us have suspected all along is coming in to the light of day.

Still, there will be 0, zero, zilch, nada, NO consequences from this. None.

Well done land O' Lincoln, well done!

 
remus 2009-02-15 08:09:32 AM  
I figured as much. Finding an innocent politician in Chicago is like finding a pregnant nun. Yeah, they exist, but they are either hidden away or kicked out immediately.

 
brigid_fitch [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:27:15 AM  
So if I understand correctly, Burris testified that Blagojevich's brother approached him and asked for $10K, but Burris never gave the campaign any money. Burris didn't mention this during his confirmation hearings, but was he asked directly?

Burris is an idiot for not disclosing this information during the confirmation hearings, esp. if he thought he'd be called to testify at Blago's impeachment. Get him out of the Senate, but not because he may be corrupt (let's face it, all politicians are corrupt--it's just a matter of degrees), but because he's obviously a farking moron.

 
Crakerasscracker [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:33:12 AM  
I say we turn Patrick Fitzgerald loose on Burris. If Burris screwed the pooch, we'll know soon enough.

 
Smacky the Frog 2009-02-15 08:36:16 AM  
Something new to chisel into the granite resume perhaps?

Oh, and this doesn't even rank on the "I'm Surprised!" meter.

 
Office Ninja 2009-02-15 08:40:37 AM  
remus: I figured as much. Finding an innocent politician in Chicago is like finding a pregnant nun. Yeah, they exist, but they are either hidden away or kicked out immediately.

Oh, but of course Obama is different. He would never abuse power or do or say anything misleading. It doesn't matter that he is straight from the same political machine in Chicago.

 
remus 2009-02-15 08:47:47 AM  
Office Ninja: remus: I figured as much. Finding an innocent politician in Chicago is like finding a pregnant nun. Yeah, they exist, but they are either hidden away or kicked out immediately.

Oh, but of course Obama is different. He would never abuse power or do or say anything misleading. It doesn't matter that he is straight from the same political machine in Chicago.


Well, obviously, duh. Gee, don't you read the interwebs?

 
RevMercutio [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 08:52:32 AM  
PoopStain: kmmontandon: Why are you assuming that Chicago Republicans aren't corrupt?

Actually, since you are assuming the Democrats are corrupt, you prove yourself to be worthless.

Bye.


I find the typo in this phrase amusing. You state in absolute terms that Chicago Democrats are more corrupt than Chicago Republicans, while showing remotely any proof. Then you spontaneously decide that the other person's opinion is "worthless" in a hilarious typo which disputes what you just said.

You and yours continue to make blanket accusations, but when asked to prove it, you run and hide like whiny children. I'd ask you to show prove of your statement, but you'd be the first out of ten that I've asked to prove anything, so I'm guessing you'll ignore any demands of proof and continue kvetching.

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:01:14 AM  
RevMercutio: You and yours continue to make blanket accusations, but when asked to prove it, you run and hide like whiny children.

Settle down.
Chicago has as many Republicans as it does unicorns.
Now, we're not sure how many unicorns are in Daley's unicorn death camps, but we've been assured that parity will remain until we reach the time set in the treaty signed in the Ginnungagap by Daley's great great great great great great grandfather, Mååÿörg Dåëlï.

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:06:32 AM  
if he perjured himself, he needs to go. end of story.

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:08:06 AM  
FlashHarry: if he perjured himself, he needs to go. end of story.

C'mon, it's not like he perjured someone else. This was a victimless crime.

 
Animatronik 2009-02-15 09:12:18 AM  
This whole thing reminds of "green eggs and ham."

As soon as Burris played the race card, all the black columnists and the media lined up behind him and started working on Reid to get him to seat Burris. Try him, he's well qualified and you'll like him. And we need a black senator to replace Obama.

But if you take a close look at him you can see he's a rotten green egg, and now we find out that he lied about Blagojevich.

There is no special interest clamoring for Burris's removal, so, unless he is physically thrown into jail I doubt Reid will do anything.

 
staplermofo [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:14:09 AM  
Animatronik: if you take a close look at him you can see he's a rotten green egg,

Once again it's about looks and color.
Oh, when will racism end?

 
Skail [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:16:42 AM  
soy_bomb: It's not corruption when we do it!

Sure, it is, and we recognize it. Why do you think Democratic voters didn't want this assbag to go to the senate? And why we work to get rid of wastes-of-life? Granted, it doesn't always work (Lieberman) but, typically, we try. :\

 
Murkanen 2009-02-15 09:17:58 AM  
Cog: 100% chance there will be 0% consequences. Race card will be played too.

I realize that this goes beyond the scope of an American's normal five second, "Oh look, something shiney" attention span, but weren't the Senate Democrats practically begging for something like this to come up so they had a legitimate reason to get rid of him/prevent him from being sat and have the new governor go through the process of picking someone else when all of this originally became news?

PoopStain: Hold the party responsible - they support him.

See my above comment.

 
F42 2009-02-15 09:24:40 AM  
kmmontandon: Why are you assuming that Chicago Republicans aren't corrupt?

All republicans are angels sent from heaven to save the people from luburalz. That's how he knows.

Democrats eat babies and will force your sons to gay-marry a black man.

 
F42 2009-02-15 09:26:59 AM  
staplermofo: C'mon, it's not like he perjured someone else. This was a victimless crime.

A winner is you!

 
winterwhile 2009-02-15 09:41:47 AM  
Its just the Dem

Culture of Corruption

no big deal, move along, ops normal for Dem's

 
winterwhile 2009-02-15 09:46:27 AM  
feckingmorons
He is a Democrat from Chicagoland, were we to expect otherwise?


wait

Is Chairman Obama from Chicagoland? Just what the heck are you implying here? You do know club Gitmo will have open spots soon? Be sure your answer is very very PC.

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 09:47:10 AM  
Feingold's amendment is looking better and better.

 
bookman 2009-02-15 09:47:22 AM  
feckingmorons: He is a Democrat from Chicagoland, were we to expect otherwise?

This

 
DeathByGeekSquad 2009-02-15 09:49:38 AM  
Il Douchey: Pity the would be corrupt politician; it's getting harder and harder to be a scumbag discretely. The game has changed. They are still willing to play; Burris, Daschle, Richardson, Geithner and Blago have made that clear -but they are no longer able. Tighter rules, better techniques and wider surveilance are exposing uncomfortable information and demanding accountability.

The moral problem was easy; they could wag their finger and lie to our faces with the best of them. But without control of the narrative, lairs must resort to excuses like "mistakes" "forgettings" and confusion over the meaning of the word "is".


The people outed in Illinois usually piss off someone who holds information, if you don't piss anyone off, you keep your office. However, in this case, there is already scrutiny due to the Blago investigation, which was likely caused by him pissing off Daley, so Burris' is a dumbass who fails regardless of his ability to not piss people off. Ironically, he's already pissed a bunch of people off by making a scene about his seat.

Mmm. Dumbass.

 
Animatronik 2009-02-15 09:52:33 AM  
staplermofo: Animatronik: if you take a close look at him you can see he's a rotten green egg,

Once again it's about looks and color.
Oh, when will racism end?


I always eat the dark chocolate M&Ms first. i are not racist.

 
jpo2269 2009-02-15 09:57:27 AM  
FBI: "Mr. Burress, you were seen going into your meeting with the Governor's brother carrying a large brown paper bag and when you left, there was no paper bag. What was in the paper bag?"

Roland Burress: "I brought some RC Cola and moon pies for us to enjoy during our discussion of what went wrong with the Bear's season."

Roland Burress: "Really?"

As someone earlier had stated, this didn't even register on the surprise meter...

 
Ikam 2009-02-15 10:01:15 AM  
They are just as bad.PoopStain: I sincerely hope the Republicans in Illinois will use this to their advantage, but most of the people in Chicago are so goddamn stupid that the party probably won't realize any gains

The Republicans in Illinois are pretty stupid too. Remember that these are the same people who ran Keyes against Obama and could have easily won the election against Blago the last time, but they ran Judy Baar-Topinka. So before you start blaming the citizens for blindly voting for the Dems, you might want to look at who the Republicans have been putting out there. There is a reason the Green party won over ten percent of the vote (including mine) during the last gubernatorial election.

If you Republicans want to get our vote here in Chicago, you might start be cutting out the Palinesque "Real America" rhetoric, quit hating the concepts of public transportation and the concept of city services, and tone down your social conservatism. Then you might have a chance, but until then, you're going to have a very hard time winning the urban vote. It isn't as if people in Chicago like their idiot Dems, but given the way some of the Republicans act in Illinois; it is as if they loathe our existence as a city, and honestly, if you think that the person who is running for office would really rather the place you were born, raised and still living fall into the lake, would you vote for them?

 
Hat Madder 2009-02-15 10:06:28 AM  
Burris said under oath that he was never asked to give a donation

It depends on what the meaning of "asked" is.

 
cfish78 2009-02-15 10:12:58 AM  
anybody else think he should add an O to the end of his name? Rolando! now that's a fitting name for a douche!

 
randomjsa 2009-02-15 10:14:29 AM  
Cog: 100% chance there will be 0% consequences. He's a Democrat Race card will be played too.

Fixed that for you

 
Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2009-02-15 10:19:49 AM  
kmmontandon: PoopStain:

I sincerely hope the Republicans in Illinois will use this to their advantage,

Why are you assuming that Chicago Republicans aren't corrupt?


If one party is corrupt, the other party has to be honest. That's the rule.

I mean, what are the chances of both parties being corrupt?

 
Skorkles 2009-02-15 10:36:31 AM  
PoopStain: davidphogan: I had a feeling this could get interesting.

It's Democrats and Chicago. These people break the law so often eating breakfast with their families probably involves something illegal.

I sincerely hope the Republicans in Illinois will use this to their advantage, but most of the people in Chicago are so goddamn stupid that the party probably won't realize any gains.


Thats a great idea. The Republicans did such a great job with the rest of our country over the last 8 years. If only they could do the same to IL.

 
cryptozoophiliac 2009-02-15 10:54:52 AM  
B..b..but Bush!

/Just kidding. This is much worse than sanctioning torture or ginning up sketchy reasons for "preventative" warfare.

 
Crude 2009-02-15 10:57:06 AM  
Ikam ...the concepts of public transportation and the concept of city services, and tone down your social conservatism.


Look, Francis, don't expect Republicans to become surrogate Democrats for you, mmm kay? You just keep voting for the Green Party or the Democrat Party, and the Republican Party will know not to count on your vote. They'll get over it. Trust me.

 
Community Agitator 2009-02-15 11:00:51 AM  
The Democrats are in power now.

Isn't that all that really matters?

 
LessO2 2009-02-15 11:01:05 AM  
I agree Burris is a sack of crap, and things like this will not let him get elected into office after his term expires in 2010.

This guy is obviously along for the ride, not doing anything substantial other than voting the party lines. Nor do I think anybody takes him seriously. Both Reid and Durbin do not like him, and I'm sure they will do everything in their power to get another D nominated and elected.

I could see the Senate doing a censure vote, that will probably pass, and I couldn't see someone get elected after that.

I just hope they don't go the whole nine yards and try to remove this guy, we've got more important things to worry about.

 
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