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(American Thinker) Interesting The law liberals always break. No, not that tax one. Nor the payoff thing. Nor the voter fraud part   (americanthinker.com) divider line 305
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CitizenTed [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:24:15 PM  
FAIL from the get-go:
"There's a law that liberals always shatter. (And no, I'm not talking about tax law.) It's the law of unintended consequences. Actually it's not so much liberals per se that break it so much as it seems liberal thinking by definition always runs afoul of this law. Leftist policy always hangs itself if given enough rope."

After 8 years of NeoConservative government and the disastrous mess it left us, one would think they would reflect, even for just a moment. But no. Instead, they do the Rovian thing: ascribe your own failures the opposing camp.

Alas, the NeoCons will never change. They are doomed.

 
spamdog [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:27:22 PM  
"Look back at 9-11. Some thirty years of liberal policies regarding intelligence gathering, intelligence sharing and prosecuting terrorists led to an attack that killed three thousand Americans in, well, two of the nations' most liberal cities. You cannot say this in polite company, but statistically some 90% of the victims likely voted for the policies that led to the dreadful day. Shhhhh."

Bahahahahahahaha!

Truly, this guy deserves an ice pick smashed into his face.

 
daychilde [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:28:05 PM  
Wow. Obama, extreme leftist? FAIL

There's so much FAIL in the first two paragraphs that it creates its own black hole of FAIL.

And... I guess if liberals BREAK the law of unintended consequences (whatever the fark THAT's supposed to me), conservaties ADHERE to the law of unintended consequences? Meaning, I guess, that they INTENDED Iraq to be as shiatty as it was and is?

WTF?

I stopped after the first two paragraphs simply because it was getting tin-foil-hat crazy right there.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:28:44 PM  
I hate to break it to the "American Thinkers", but here goes.

That window you have in your bathroom... the one with the ugly, twisted, wretched little troll in it who is always looking in at you... well, it's not really a window.

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:33:08 PM  
I'm beginning to thinks is the Law of Ignorance. This is not a Democracy, America is a Republic governed by Rule of Law, not mob rule. I've been hearing a lot of people make this mistake.

 
daychilde [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:36:25 PM  
Wow. Some moron voted this up (because I voted it down, but it's back to zero)

 
Asa Phelps [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:37:48 PM  
GaryPDX: I'm beginning to thinks is the Law of Ignorance. This is not a Democracy, America is a Republic governed by Rule of Law, not mob rule. I've been hearing a lot of people make this mistake.

Was it OK when the republicans had mob rule for 6 years?

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:41:24 PM  
Asa Phelps: GaryPDX: I'm beginning to thinks is the Law of Ignorance. This is not a Democracy, America is a Republic governed by Rule of Law, not mob rule. I've been hearing a lot of people make this mistake.

Was it OK when the republicans had mob rule for 6 years?


No and there's a huge difference here. People actually believe this is a Democracy. That's a different set of basics than a Republic. Different rules. We're a Republic, we were set up that way and we've always been that way. This isn't Venezuela.

 
ScubaDude1960 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:44:22 PM  
Hey Mr. Wright... how's that drug war going?

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:55:02 PM  
The liberals now have the entire stage with a very liberal President, extreme leftists in control of Congress, and the main stream media

So either fox news is a commie/leftist plot OR it's not 'mainstream' and thus totally wacko.

Also - if the libruls really DO control the entire mainstream media, then every true blue red blooded amurkin patriot should be voting in favor of the Fairness Doctrine. Hey, it would give the Right wing 'equal access' to the media outlets! y'know...all those outlets currently controlled by those evil libruls?

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:56:21 PM  
This might be the single most hypocritical thing ever written.

 
robmilmel [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:57:30 PM  
The American Thinker is, ironically, neither of the 2 words in its' title.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:58:50 PM  
There was some concentrated stupid in that article. Apparently GM only produces SUVs and a bonus is better than a worker getting paid a living wage.

 
Sgt Otter [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 09:58:54 PM  
spamdog: "Look back at 9-11. Some thirty years of liberal policies regarding intelligence gathering, intelligence sharing and prosecuting terrorists led to an attack that killed three thousand Americans in, well, two of the nations' most liberal cities. You cannot say this in polite company, but statistically some 90% of the victims likely voted for the policies that led to the dreadful day. Shhhhh."

Bahahahahahahaha!

Truly, this guy deserves an ice pick smashed into his face.


I'd love to see the reaction from the Right if some liberal moonbat penned an essay about how, "Well, I'm sure some of those Oklahoma rednecks agreed with Timothy McVeigh, so they got what they farking deserved."

 
daychilde [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:00:02 PM  
robmilmel: The American Thinker is, ironically, neither of the 2 words in its' title.

"its" not "its'".

"it's" always = "it is"

"its" always is the possessive form of "it".

"its'" doesn't exist.

That being said, your spot on.

/zing!
//that last bit hurt to type, btw... :-/

 
daychilde [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:01:19 PM  
And this shiat goes green. Seriously?

Fark: We love trolls.

What bullshiat.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:01:21 PM  
GaryPDX: I'm beginning to thinks is the Law of Ignorance. This is not a Democracy, America is a Republic governed by Rule of Law, not mob rule. I've been hearing a lot of people make this mistake.

nice to know we can call off the next election

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:01:29 PM  
DamnYankees: This might be the single most hypocritical thing ever written.

Nah, the Communist Manifesto still wins that award by a mile. That said, this article does have a lot of flawed thinking and baseless assumptions.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:02:50 PM  
Weaver95: DamnYankees: This might be the single most hypocritical thing ever written.

Nah, the Communist Manifesto still wins that award by a mile. That said, this article does have a lot of flawed thinking and baseless assumptions.


The Communist Manifesto is hypocritical? I think Marx really meant it.

 
nacker 2009-02-14 10:03:19 PM  
Weaver95: Nah, the Communist Manifesto still wins that award by a mile. That said, this article does have a lot of flawed thinking and baseless assumptions.

Don't tell me wife, but I think I love you.

/man, I feel dirty now

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:04:12 PM  
GaryPDX: I'm beginning to thinks is the Law of Ignorance. This is not a Democracy, America is a Republic governed by Rule of Law, not mob rule. I've been hearing a lot of people make this mistake.

could be worse. we could have Tharkold's World Laws.

/obscure?

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:04:49 PM  
Sgt Otter: I'd love to see the reaction from the Right if some liberal moonbat penned an essay about how, "Well, I'm sure some of those Oklahoma rednecks agreed with Timothy McVeigh, so they got what they farking deserved."

That doesn't even need to actually happen. They could wake up one morning, speculate on what it would be like if it happened, and then become outraged over their own made up scenario.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:05:15 PM  
Bucky Katt: Weaver95: DamnYankees: This might be the single most hypocritical thing ever written.

Nah, the Communist Manifesto still wins that award by a mile. That said, this article does have a lot of flawed thinking and baseless assumptions.

The Communist Manifesto is hypocritical? I think Marx really meant it.


I think Marx and Engles just wanted an excuse for someone else to pay their bar tab. the communist manifesto was the result.

 
GoDeep [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:05:55 PM  
Let me get this out of the way:

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CheddarPants [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:06:37 PM  
Which leads to another example. Union jobs at the big three auto makers have been supported for years by the high priced and high profit SUVs and pick up trucks. Of course, liberal environmentalists have long made the SUV a target, while limiting domestic energy production. Greenies are doing everything they can to destroy the SUV, and with it, many union jobs, and almost succeeded during the last energy price spike.

Those union jobs would be supported equally well by fuel-efficient vehicles. Dumbass.

 
Bucky Katt [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:06:45 PM  
Weaver95: Bucky Katt: Weaver95: DamnYankees: This might be the single most hypocritical thing ever written.

Nah, the Communist Manifesto still wins that award by a mile. That said, this article does have a lot of flawed thinking and baseless assumptions.

The Communist Manifesto is hypocritical? I think Marx really meant it.

I think Marx and Engles just wanted an excuse for someone else to pay their bar tab. the communist manifesto was the result.


Engles had plenty of money. He paid off Marx's bar tab for years.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:08:03 PM  
daychilde: conservaties ADHERE to the law of unintended consequences?

in a thread that could potentially make history, that line will be one that makes me wake up laughing in the middle of the night for a while.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:08:04 PM  
Weaver95: I think Marx and Engles just wanted an excuse for someone else to pay their bar tab. the communist manifesto was the result.

Yeah, but can you imagine what Russia would have been like throughout the 20th century without Communism? History would be a lot stranger.

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2009-02-14 10:08:48 PM  
Aaah, The Stinker. Ironic to the end. You'd think with all the unintended consequences of so-called "conservative" policy we are dealing with, they'd try to keep a lower profile. Yep. Keep on blaming liberals. It has worked so well for you these last few years

.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:10:03 PM  
GAT_00: Weaver95: I think Marx and Engles just wanted an excuse for someone else to pay their bar tab. the communist manifesto was the result.

Yeah, but can you imagine what Russia would have been like throughout the 20th century without Communism? History would be a lot stranger.


True....but then we probably wouldn't have had Ronald Regan or McCarthyism either. No cuban missle crisis. No castro. No Che. No war in vietnam or korean conflict. No Red China.

 
robmilmel [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:10:13 PM  
daychilde: robmilmel: The American Thinker is, ironically, neither of the 2 words in its' title.

"its" not "its'".

"it's" always = "it is"

"its" always is the possessive form of "it".

"its'" doesn't exist.

That being said, your spot on.

/zing!
//that last bit hurt to type, btw... :-/


Tough typing with a dog in your lap :P

 
spamdog [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:10:55 PM  
Weaver95: True....but then we probably wouldn't have had Ronald Regan or McCarthyism either. No cuban missle crisis. No castro. No Che. No war in vietnam or korean conflict. No Red China.

Yeah. But no Ayn Rand.

 
robmilmel [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:11:07 PM  
daychilde: your spot on.

you're.

 
Crosshair [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:11:32 PM  
Weaver95: Also - if the libruls really DO control the entire mainstream media, then every true blue red blooded amurkin patriot should be voting in favor of the Fairness Doctrine. Hey, it would give the Right wing 'equal access' to the media outlets! y'know...all those outlets currently controlled by those evil libruls?

The TV aspect they generally do. the Fairness Doctrine won't solve that. It's nothing more than a political weapon for one side to silence/limit the opposition. "Fair" is an objective term anyway. I don't want to limit them because I don't want them to limit me.

let the Liberals have their TV and the Conservatives have their Talk Radio. If it ever starts sucking too badly the advertisers will leave.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:12:14 PM  
Weaver95: True....but then we probably wouldn't have had Ronald Regan or McCarthyism either. No cuban missle crisis. No castro. No Che. No war in vietnam or korean conflict. No Red China.

*fap*

Hell, I love alternative history novels. I should try writing one in my infinite spare time and use that as the premise. You may have given me a new hobby.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:12:34 PM  
spamdog: Weaver95: True....but then we probably wouldn't have had Ronald Regan or McCarthyism either. No cuban missle crisis. No castro. No Che. No war in vietnam or korean conflict. No Red China.

Yeah. But no Ayn Rand.


No Tom Clancy either. THAT'd suck for sure.

Africa would probably still be a shiathole tho.

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:16:07 PM  
GAT_00: Weaver95: True....but then we probably wouldn't have had Ronald Regan or McCarthyism either. No cuban missle crisis. No castro. No Che. No war in vietnam or korean conflict. No Red China.

*fap*

Hell, I love alternative history novels. I should try writing one in my infinite spare time and use that as the premise. You may have given me a new hobby.


Here's the downside - with no 'communist threat' to shock america out of it's isolationism, the US would probably have turned inward after the end of WWII. Leaving europe and the rest of the world to fend for itself, and no communist threat looming on the horizion the rest of the world is much slower recovering from the widespread devastation. Culturally, the US becomes more static. The rest of the world, less advanced technologically....but probably extremely jealous of the US standard of living.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:16:48 PM  
Crosshair: The TV aspect they generally do.

I think Fox still has a higher viewership than any of the "liberal" media channels. Personally, I wouldn't call CNN liberal, only MSNBC. Plus the Fox talking heads have higher viewerships than the liberal talking heads. And, as you noted, the right has Radio. I don't think it is very unbalanced.

 
kitryne [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:19:01 PM  
Any article that not only uses the term "do-do" but uses that spelling instead of the more acceptable "doodoo" is not worth reading, I'd wager.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:19:08 PM  
Weaver95: The rest of the world, less advanced technologically....but probably extremely jealous of the US standard of living.

You realize you're just giving me ideas, don't you? This actually is starting to sound really interesting. Why hasn't someone tried this?

 
chemical_angel [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:22:35 PM  
All of the pertinent points have been made so ... suck my balls is all I have to say.

 
nacker 2009-02-14 10:22:37 PM  
robmilmel: daychilde: your spot on.

you're.


FAIL.

 
bulldg4life [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:22:49 PM  
GaryPDX: No and there's a huge difference here. People actually believe this is a Democracy. That's a different set of basics than a Republic. Different rules. We're a Republic, we were set up that way and we've always been that way. This isn't Venezuela.

So, this is GaryPDX's talking point for the week. We are not Venezuela. Good to know.

 
SpaceyCat [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:23:29 PM  
I think I lost more than a few brain cells attempting to read that drivel. WTF?

spaceycat.googlepages.com

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:27:39 PM  
GAT_00: Weaver95: The rest of the world, less advanced technologically....but probably extremely jealous of the US standard of living.

You realize you're just giving me ideas, don't you? This actually is starting to sound really interesting. Why hasn't someone tried this?


hmm...in fact, here's what else could be a probably result.

If we assume that the Tsar crushes the bolshevik revolution, we can further assume that internal dissent still weakens the regime for some time. Hitler, sensing weakness, invades Russia on schedule (as happened in our Primary timeline). However, with no real motivation in the Tsar's forces, they give ground and cede territory much easier than the Red Army did in our timeline. Hitler captures moscow and executes the Tsar and his family.

However, the end result is STILL the same as it was in our universe. The german army squanders resources in a quagmire of Russian partisan and counter-insurgency attacks. True, they took moscow and political goals were met...but with the Russian infrastructure smashed as a result of the war and german losses mounting in the wake of the US incursions into 'fortress europe', the final result is inevitable - Germany falls and the third reich is toppled.

Russia of course never quite recovers. what the war didn't destroy was antiquated even before the german invasion. with no centralized government, anarchy is largely the rule.

 
daychilde [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:28:09 PM  
robmilmel:
Tough typing with a dog in your lap :P


Okay, okay, you get a retroactive pass... THIS time.

;-)

 
daychilde [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:28:44 PM  
robmilmel: daychilde: your spot on.

you're.


Didn't read my slashies, did you?

 
rssvss [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:31:31 PM  
luv this stuff, lol...

 
PacManDreaming [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:31:50 PM  
I bet this thread is gonna be fun once the Liters get their grubby little dick-beaters on it.

And to whichever admin greenlighted this, you do realize this article is the equivalent of handing out flamethrowers to rioters?

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2009-02-14 10:31:59 PM  
SpaceyCat: I think I lost more than a few brain cells attempting to read that drivel. WTF?

you too huh?

I never did get to the point where they said what the law liberals always break is. My brain threatened to crawl out of my ears, so I stopped reading.

 
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