Tell ya what submitter, go get 10 grand in 1 dollar bills. Take them to your nearest large building, throw them off the top of the building and see what happens.

They should've amended the stimulus bill in such a way that those areas represented by people who voted against it wouldn't get any money.

7of7: They should've amended the stimulus bill in such a way that those areas represented by people who voted against it wouldn't get any money.

yea baby, tyranny and oppression.

I've voted Libertarian all my life, but I'm changing my ways. From here on out, I'm voting for the candidate who promises to tax the most, spend the most, and restrict our freedom the most. Just doing my part to start the next Revolutionary War.

Wait a minute..would I still have to pay taxes if I don't get the money? Could I still operate in the market place? How about we do a better idea. How about the States not take any money and bugger off. That would reduce the overhead. Save money..whoa.

GaryPDX: Wait a minute..would I still have to pay taxes if I don't get the money? Could I still operate in the market place? How about we do a better idea. How about the States not take any money and bugger off. That would reduce the overhead. Save money..whoa.

Tell you what. You get my 4 month old daughter off the hook for paying for these wars and I will pay for your share of the stimulus package.

T.M.S.: GaryPDX: Wait a minute..would I still have to pay taxes if I don't get the money? Could I still operate in the market place? How about we do a better idea. How about the States not take any money and bugger off. That would reduce the overhead. Save money..whoa.

Tell you what. You get my 4 month old daughter off the hook for paying for these wars and I will pay for your share of the stimulus package.

Doesn't matter now, her grandchildren are will still be paying. If I could poof those wars gone tomorrow, it won't make a lick of difference.

I love how the Republicans, in the name of cooperative bi-partisanship, piassed and shiat into the stimulus package, getting as many things as they could changed, then voted against it because it reeked of piass and shiat.

They had best be doing some serious praying right about now that there isn't a hint of anything good coming out of this, because if there is, they can change the name of their party to R.I.P.ublican.

it was a steamy pile of piass and shiat in the first place. Every democrat dusty turd Bill on the shelf for the last 20 years was tossed in there.

GaryPDX: Wait a minute..would I still have to pay taxes if I don't get the money? Could I still operate in the market place? How about we do a better idea. How about the States not take any money and bugger off. That would reduce the overhead. Save money..whoa.

You still pay taxes from your bunker?

oldebayer: I love how the Republicans, in the name of cooperative bi-partisanship, piassed and shiat into the stimulus package, getting as many things as they could changed, then voted against it because it reeked of piass and shiat.

They had best be doing some serious praying right about now that there isn't a hint of anything good coming out of this, because if there is, they can change the name of their party to R.I.P.ublican.

makes you wonder what they actually would have voted for

7of7: They should've amended the stimulus bill in such a way that those areas represented by people who voted against it wouldn't get any money.

That's be interesting. I don't know if it'd be legal though.

DamnYankees:
That's be interesting. I don't know if it'd be legal though.

It would have been a horrible economic idea as well- much worse protectionism than "buy American" clauses would bring.

Though in America it would probably just cause a quick migration.

/not to mention the problem of 1 senator voting for it, 1 not, or house representatives voting for it, but other democratic ones not. Are you only going to stimulate half the state?

sloppy shoes: Are you only going to stimulate half the state?

Absolutely. Give it to the districts whose representative supported it. It's time that idiots paid for voting in their representatives instead of simply piggybacking on the sane districts.

7of7: Absolutely. Give it to the districts whose representative supported it. It's time that idiots paid for voting in their representatives instead of simply piggybacking on the sane districts.

As much of me would like to agree, realistically that would be horrible. It would be a harsh form of protectionism- more so than the Buy American clause because you would trying to stifle a well integrated economy.

A major result would be a migration from the affected states to the unaffected states.

GaryPDX: it was a steamy pile of piass and shiat in the first place. Every democrat dusty turd Bill on the shelf for the last 20 years was tossed in there.

Prove it. Or better yet [Citation Needed].

You and the rest of your poo-flinging ilk are the problem. Before you say "Look look, did you see him oppressing me!" I don't care what you say. You make yourself look more stupid and unimportant every thread I see you in.

Keep talking. It lets the rest of us know what the self-described "Enemies of America" are thinking.

Although they were strongly opposed to the stimulus plan, Republicans will not turn down the federal funds headed towards their cash-strapped states


Yep. And the democrats won't ever let them - or the public - forget it.

Gangway Fathead: Although they were strongly opposed to the stimulus plan, Republicans will not turn down the federal funds headed towards their cash-strapped states


Yep. And the democrats won't ever let them - or the public - forget it.

Nor should they.

sloppy shoes: Are you only going to stimulate half the state?

You're right... I've only got two hands. You'd better handle the other half.

GaryPDX: it was a steamy pile of piass and shiat in the first place. Every democrat dusty turd Bill on the shelf for the last 20 years was tossed in there.

Really Gary, must you foist your scat fetish on us all?
Disgusting is what you are eh?

GaryPDX: it was a steamy pile of piass and shiat in the first place. Every democrat dusty turd Bill on the shelf for the last 20 years was tossed in there.

Well, I actually read the thing.
You are lying.

GaryPDX is a deviant scat fetishist of the most vile type.
It's true, it's right here on the intertubes!

No, "Thanks, but no thanks?"

Oh, that's right. She took the money anyway, I forgot.

7of7: They should've amended the stimulus bill in such a way that those areas represented by people who voted against it wouldn't get any money.

It's called the Tyranny of the Majority, and it is the reason the Senate was created.

Both parties have dug this hole, and neither one will get us out. I wouldn't have a problem with a stimulus package if I thought it would work. This was a spending bill that adds almost 1,000,000,000,000 to the national debt. That's about one-third of what the Reagan years got us in one spending bill.

If you started counting right now it would take you almost 2 million years to count to 1 trillion

I just took a survey. An Authoritative on I might add.
89.7 percent think that GaryPDX should be broken on the wheel.
That's a bit harsh, so we'll amend it to being poopstains footstool (no pun intended) for 42 days.

Some days I wish I could give the libertarians and the so-called conservatives what they say they want. Put them in some reservation where there are no taxes and no government. No doubt they would first think this is nirvana -- nothing in the way of their freedoms or their economic growth. No judges to hand down rulings they don't like and nobody to interfere by regulating food or drugs or any products. No traffic lights, even.

Perhaps a few years of living in a putrid, polluted cesspool ruled by strongman crimelords might make good liberals out of 'em. More likely though they would be dead, being too stupid to live.

I will guarnatee that the repubs that voted against the bill will have no role in spending the funds. My god people are dumb.

PoopStain:
I'll take a tax cut. Your children can starve when the loan comes due.

There are tax cuts in the bill, so what you are saying is - you'd rather have a tax cut and no economic stimulus, or a tax cut and economic stimulus someone else has to pay back.

I bet you are a Republican.

We really need to do something about those Red Welfare States...

7of7: They should've amended the stimulus bill in such a way that those areas represented by people who voted against it wouldn't get any money.

That would be the right thing to do, right, Republicans? RIGHT?!?!?!?

Coelacanth: We really need to do something about those Red Welfare States...

maybe Mexico will take them

Coelacanth: We really need to do something about those Red Welfare States...

I can solve that for you, addopt anti-federalism. You will never have to worry about sending money to the red states.

PoopStain: Gangway Fathead: Yep. And the democrats won't ever let them - or the public - forget it.

The governor of South Carolina is discussing not taking the money, but his own statehouse is calling him out on it because if they refuse, the money just goes to another state. It doesn't go back to the taxpayer since it is already allocated.

People could refuse the money, but it's going to be spent, anyway. So there is only a downside to refusing it.


Oh, don't get me wrong - I'm not suggesting anyone could practically (or politically) turn the money down, I'm just saying it's going to be a political hot button topic for democrats.

And if the stimulus works it will be an effective one.

GaryPDX: Tell ya what submitter, go get 10 grand in 1 dollar bills. Take them to your nearest large building, throw them off the top of the building and see what happens.


You will jump after them?

/cheap at twice the price

Meanwhile the investigation goes on as to all the cash pissed away in Iraq ...

It ain't socialism when it's incompetent yet politically connected Republicans stealing and throwing away our cash in Iraq, is it GaryPDX?

(Sorry, Fark doesn't like the link)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/world/middleeast/15iraq.html?_r=1&hp
Inquiry on Graft in Iraq Focuses on U.S. Officers

GaryPDX: Tell ya what submitter, go get 10 grand in 1 dollar bills. Take them to your nearest large building, throw them off the top of the building and see what happens.

I'm guessing you masturbate to the attenion-whores in Congrees that you see on CSPAN/The Daily Show using graphs to demonstrate how many times those bills can physically circle the world and how a trillion dollars won't even reach to the moon. You know, bullshiat distractions in place of actual evidence and a semblance of organization.

How about this deal? You can cut off all the money going to districts that voted against this bill just as soon as all the residents of the districts that voted against Bush's tax cuts pay 10% of their adjusted income for the past 7 years to the IRS.

Saiga410: How about this deal? You can cut off all the money going to districts that voted against this bill just as soon as all the residents of the districts that voted against Bush's tax cuts pay 10% of their adjusted income for the past 7 years to the IRS.

There's a devide by zero error in that sentence somewhere, just can't seem to find it.

This reminds me of an uber-libertarian I know. Poor people deserve to be poor, babies with defects should be killed, and no social service should be funded. Standing army and domestic police only, baby, you pay privately for the fire department. fark public roadways. Let churches and charities take care of the poor. (he never gives money away to anything and looks dumbfoundedly at me if I mention sending 20 bucks to PBS).

But damn, he loves being on Medicare. and he will have to retire on Social Security at an advanced age. Because his Ayn Rand-pure business didn't leave a whole lot of savings.

As an aside, he has so many health problems, following his own logic he should have been killed as a young child when his serious genetic disorders were discovered.

Anyway all you libertarians and libertarianish Republicans, I think you're a bunch of hypocritical biatches who would gladly suck at the state teat if you have to. Oh you whine about paying taxes, but you sure lap up that socialist milk when you're hungry.

As someone who just entered the workforce and plans to spend the next 40 some years there I can't say I'm thrilled at the idea of spending lots of money we don't have (I was always taught to live eithin my means, not eggregiously without). OTOH, I hear lots of positions form all sides on the internet and TV, but I would wager that 90% of the people talking (and talking loudest) really don't have that good an idea of what they're talking about. Maybe I'm not old enough to be jaded, but perhaps the (hopefully) really smart economics people informing the government have some idea of what will work better than I do. I know government doesn't work the way it should, but I know that I don't know enough to have any better idea of how to approach the problem.

Oh, and as for the article, it just reminds me of the Simpsons:
"I'll take your money, but I won't look you in the eye when I do it."

nmrsnr: someone who just entered the workforce

I guess there is some hope after all.

Democrats erasing the past eight years, in one bill. 2010 real change.

rohar: Saiga410: How about this deal? You can cut off all the money going to districts that voted against this bill just as soon as all the residents of the districts that voted against Bush's tax cuts pay 10% of their adjusted income for the past 7 years to the IRS.

There's a devide by zero error in that sentence somewhere, just can't seem to find it.

I am wondering if you think that no one voted against the bills or that all the people in those districs have no adjusted income? If you believe either you might be a moran.

Saiga410: rohar: Saiga410: How about this deal? You can cut off all the money going to districts that voted against this bill just as soon as all the residents of the districts that voted against Bush's tax cuts pay 10% of their adjusted income for the past 7 years to the IRS.

There's a devide by zero error in that sentence somewhere, just can't seem to find it.

I am wondering if you think that no one voted against the bills or that all the people in those districs have no adjusted income? If you believe either you might be a moran.

So why would the people who were against reducing their own taxes owe the irs something? I'd think it would be the people that voted for the tax cuts because it was their actions that reduced federal recipts.

So, they compromise and put in tax cuts and such for the Republicans, and the Republicans all vote against it anyway. fark 'em. Bring back majority of the majority and let's fix what they farked up whether they like it or not.

RemyDuron: So, they compromise and put in tax cuts and such for the Republicans, and the Republicans all vote against it anyway. fark 'em. Bring back majority of the majority and let's fix what they farked up whether they like it or not.

I'll bring us through this. As always. I'll carry you - kicking and screaming - and in the end you'll thank me.

nmrsnr: As someone who just entered the workforce and plans to spend the next 40 some years there I can't say I'm thrilled at the idea of spending lots of money we don't have (I was always taught to live eithin my means, not eggregiously without). OTOH, I hear lots of positions form all sides on the internet and TV, but I would wager that 90% of the people talking (and talking loudest) really don't have that good an idea of what they're talking about. Maybe I'm not old enough to be jaded, but perhaps the (hopefully) really smart economics people informing the government have some idea of what will work better than I do. I know government doesn't work the way it should, but I know that I don't know enough to have any better idea of how to approach the problem.

Oh, and as for the article, it just reminds me of the Simpsons:
"I'll take your money, but I won't look you in the eye when I do it."

As a jaded 37 year-old who has been in your shoes, let me just say this: Be glad that your fellow citizens finally got it right and elected the smartest guy in the room. If he is successful, you're going to enjoy steady work for the rest of your life. If he fails, well, learn to distill alcohol. It's a skill that will make you a valuable member of any encampment, and ensure your value regardless of whatever warlord ravages your people.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass
nmrsnr: someone who just entered the workforce

I guess there is some hope after all.

You'd like to think so, but the kicker is I got a government job.

Just don't ask ME to help pay it back and I'll be cool with not getting any of the money.

Although they were strongly opposed to the stimulus plan, Republicans will not turn down the federal funds headed towards their cash-strapped states

And?

I advise customers on certain issues that help them and cost me money. But if they insist, I'll gladly take their money and let them fail.