I don't see why these two dems can't get along.

...wait, Norm did what? When did that happen?

Why doesn't Coleman respect the Minnesota people's money, quit with the expensive legal challenges, and concede gracefully?

Oh, right, because recounts are only a waste of taxpayer money when it's your opponent, and when it's a recount mandated by law!

I think the 2010 elections will be begin before these guys work out there differences.

/then it's back to the campaign trail
//yes I know it doesn't work that way

1.1.1.1

Canadian Canuck: I think the 2010 elections will be begin before these guys work out there differences Coleman stop crying like a little biatch.

FTFY

FTA: Analysts said that even though the ruling streamlines the number of ballots to consider, it may lengthen the trial because it requires Coleman to show that the ballots he wants counted were legally cast, not just that they were improperly rejected.

JOY! Just what everyone wants, this to take even longer.

Lumi: Why doesn't Coleman respect the Minnesota people's money, quit with the expensive legal challenges, and concede gracefully?

Because he wants to shorten Franken's de facto Senate term any way he can.

/ for answer
// for Coleman

I propose a new rule:

If you can't get your shiat together by Valentine's Day, you forfeit the seat for the rest of the term and all the yahoos involved in the circus are ineligible to run during the next election cycle.

=Smidge=

Chance of Minnesotans knowing who actually won this election no matter the outcome in the courts? 0%

What a joke.

Ok Minnesota, time is up! You only get one Senator. Better luck when that term comes up for election in 2014.

Ed Finnerty: 10.1.1.1

FTFY.

/obscure?

Lumi: Why doesn't Coleman respect the Minnesota people's money, quit with the expensive legal challenges, and concede gracefully?

Oh, right, because recounts are only a waste of taxpayer money when it's your opponent, and when it's a recount mandated by law!

Why don't you want all the ballots counted? Oh that's right, it only is worth it when the challenger is on your side.

/// That was fun.

Coleman is a hypocrite just like most politicians. It's just that he and his fellow Republicans are much better at it than the rest.

Send ACORN in they now have 2 Billion to spend

Coleman urged Franken to waive his right to a recount, saying that the prospect of changing the result was remote and that a recount would be costly to taxpayers (about $86,000). (new window)


November 6, 2008

LocalCynic: Ed Finnerty: 10.1.1.1

FTFY.

/obscure?

What, is that your home router's IP?

Whether you're a Coleman or Franken supporter, Minnesota is lacking proper representation right now and the state's citizens suffer the consequences. They'll need to get a law on the books that *someone* is seated during such disputes.

MyRandomName: Why don't you want all the ballots counted?

Coleman now wants to have ballots included THAT HE PREVIOUSLY ARGUED TO HAVE REJECTED.

He has tried to include obviously invalid ballots, including ones where the voter admitted IN COURT that they had voted in person AND by absentee.

Perhaps he thinks that the longer he drags this out the longer he will avoid his upcoming criminal investigations?

Lumi: Why doesn't Coleman respect the Minnesota people's money, quit with the expensive legal challenges, and concede gracefully?


Offhand, I'd say it's because he's the real winner, as will become clear by the time this legally-mandate process concludes. Other than that, no reason.

Brubold: Chance of Minnesotans knowing who actually won this election no matter the outcome in the courts? 100%

FTFY. The recount process was viewable to the public and the ballots are still able to be reviewed should anyone wish to do so. There is no doubt who legitimately won the election, this is just Coleman being an attention whore for the sake of it.

jjorsett: Offhand, I'd say it's because he's the real winner, as will become clear by the time this legally-mandate process concludes. Other than that, no reason.

It's a good thing that Norm has been cherrypicking voters who have admitted in court to illegally casting ballots and is defending their right to illegally vote.

jjorsett: Offhand, I'd say it's because he's the real winner, as will become clear by the time this legally-mandate process concludes.

The legally mandated process ended with Franken leading by close to 300 votes. While a legal part of the process, Coleman's string of lawsuits are far from "legally mandated".

More like Norm go ::1

jjorsett: Lumi: Why doesn't Coleman respect the Minnesota people's money, quit with the expensive legal challenges, and concede gracefully?


Offhand, I'd say it's because he's the real winner, as will become clear by the time this legally-mandate process concludes. Other than that, no reason.

Hmm, 3/10

Bah. Senator Goofy vs. Senator Dopey. At this point, would it even matter? Maybe they could platoon the position.

co-conspirator: MyRandomName: Why don't you want all the ballots counted?

Coleman now wants to have ballots included THAT HE PREVIOUSLY ARGUED TO HAVE REJECTED.

He has tried to include obviously invalid ballots, including ones where the voter admitted IN COURT that they had voted in person AND by absentee.

Perhaps he thinks that the longer he drags this out the longer he will avoid his upcoming criminal investigations?

It could just as easily be said that Franken continuously aired sob story ads with people crying about their votes not being counted. Why then would he not want these remaining votes counted?

The point being that both candidates have changed their story to fit the situation.

If Norm pulls this out he will be known as the Wendell Anderson of our times.

In the future, MN needs to be more decisive in choosing which of two assholes they want to be Senator.

Coleman is exposing a lot of voter fraud by the Dems. Coleman won initially,Franken challenged until Acorn and the Democrats could invent more votes for him while throwing out Coleman's legit votes. Just like the Governor election in Washington State.

From what I understand, the fact that they'll letting Coleman drag this out, and let him explore every ridiculous opportunity is a good thing for Franken.

Basically, the judges know Coleman has no case, and they want to kill this fiasco with one trial. By letting him use absolutely every arguement (including ones he directly opposed when he thought he was ahead) in this trial, it prevents him from using those same arguements to appeal later. In other words:

"Mr. Coleman, you lost. Franken is now Senator."
"I want to appeal!"
"On what grounds?"
"The judge didn't let me argue that someone who left their ballot completely blank on their ballot obviously meant to vote for me."
"We covered that in the original trial. You can't use that as grounds for appeal."

Mongo cut wood: Coleman is exposing a lot of voter fraud by the Dems. Coleman won initially,Franken challenged until Acorn and the Democrats could invent more votes for him while throwing out Coleman's legit votes. Just like the Governor election in Washington State.

You base this on what exactly?

GOSLING'S BIG BOOK O' POLITICAL ADVICE

#569 (Coleman's Law): If you're in a close race, you are perfectly within your rights to exhaust every legal angle available to you. But the second it becomes obvious to everyone you've lost, concede. Don't embarrass yourself.
#570 (Musgrave's Corollary): Remember to concede. Seriously. People are going to notice.

Can't they just take it to the US Supreme Court so that George W. Bush can be declared the winner?

When will you realize.. No one likes you Stuart Smalley!

MyRandomName: Why don't you want all the ballots counted? Oh that's right, it only is worth it when the challenger is on your side.

Coleman doesn't want all the ballots counted. He only wants ballots that *he* selected -- after contacting the voter -- to be counted. He selected ballots that will almost unanimously go in his favor, not "all the ballots".

winterwhile: Send ACORN in they now have 2 Billion to spend

I'm going to guess that you have no idea how stupid your very own post make you look.

It's funny how the same republicans who made fun of Gore wanting one recount are the same guys saying Coleman should get as many as he wants until the numbers work out his way.

Xerxes99: When will you realize.. No one likes you Stuart Smalley!

And yet he won the MN senate election. Amazing how that works, isn't it?

Lumi: Why doesn't Coleman respect the Minnesota people's money, quit with the expensive legal challenges, and concede gracefully?

Because w-we JUST CAN'T HAVE THAT TALK SHOW CHARLATAN ASSUMING OFFICE!!

Halli Quote 2009-02-14 02:50:14 PM
Mongo cut wood: Coleman is exposing a lot of voter fraud by the Dems. Coleman won initially,Franken challenged until Acorn and the Democrats could invent more votes for him while throwing out Coleman's legit votes. Just like the Governor election in Washington State.

You base this on what exactly?

Link (new window)

Franken working with Acorn (new window)

Link(new window)

Al Franken motto: If you cannot win ethically, cheat your way to a victory.

I'm gonna write a book. I will title it " NOrm Coleman Is a Big Fat Idiot."

/I know, I know, crickets chirping.

Mongo cut wood: Link (new window)

Franken working with Acorn (new window)

Link(new window)

Do you have a link from an actual news source not just some crazy person's blog?

mongo, I'm sorry, you fail.
/Fox is SOOO Rightie
//Blogspot ranks right up there with wikipedia as a reliable and siteable source

Mongo cut wood: Franken working with Acorn (new window)

I'll see your ACORN and raise you a Coleman defending illegal voters.

Even if I was a democrat I wouldn't want Franken to win.

He is a douche bag and the democrats have a huge majority already.

Having a large majority for either party in both the house and the senate is bad for the country.

macil22: Even if I was a democrat I wouldn't want Franken to win.

He is a douche bag and the democrats have a huge majority already.

Having a large majority for either party in both the house and the senate is bad for the country.

Your concern is noted.

Brubold: It could just as easily be said that Franken continuously aired sob story ads with people crying about their votes not being counted. Why then would he not want these remaining votes counted?

It could be said, but it would be untruthful to say. Not likely that's going to stop his lawyers from spreading that garbage, however.

There were clearly documented cases of improperly rejected ballots that Franken wanted included.

We are now witnessing Coleman's bizarro double-counting math where he is trying to include ballots that were rejected by the (Republican-dominated) state commission whose job it was to review each one on a case-by-case basis, in a process that was open to view by the public.

Coleman is now throwing everything he can at the wall in a desperate attempt to see what sticks. He changes his story on an almost weekly basis as each try fails. Franken, like him or not, was consistent, and worked within the rules.

macil22: He is a douche bag and the democrats have a huge majority already.

You base this on what exactly? His policy decisions? Meeting him? Worldnetdaily?

I never listened to his show or read his books. I just didn't see him as really any different than the Rush Limbaughs of the world. But after actually meeting him and following his campaign I have to come to respect him.

And guess what? I still didn't vote for him! I have too many issues with his opinions on policy. But I didn't vote for Coleman either.

Either one would represent the state well.

/gets annoyed when someone from out of state making uninformed comments on people running in my state.

Mongo cut wood: Coleman is exposing a lot of voter fraud by the Dems. Coleman won initially,Franken challenged until Acorn and the Democrats could invent more votes for him while throwing out Coleman's legit votes. Just like the Governor election in Washington State.

Lets just get this out of the way:

The entire process has been transparent. All votes are online. Minnesota law has been followed to the letter. Bipartisan representatives have been on the election committee and the final judging panel. ACORN has nothing to do with voter fraud. And there is no evidence of voter fraud in Minnesota.

Coleman lost. Again. This is not the first time. On his resume he can add to losing to a comedian right under losing to a professional wrestler.

Any other wingnut talking points you want to throw out there?

co-conspirator: Franken, like him or not, was consistent, and worked within the rules.

I notice a funny pattern here. Obama seemed to get respect for not ever seeming desperate, he just tried to win fairly. Same thing with Franken it appears. It's almost like the party consists of people with strong moral values. It's almost like someone who believed that an ideal world is worth striving for could take the shortcut of voting straight Dem. Huh. I wonder what the other guys stand for...

bravian: You base this on what exactly? His policy decisions? Meeting him? Worldnetdaily?

It's pretty obvious it's because he has a "D" after his name.

Halli: Mongo cut wood: Coleman is exposing a lot of voter fraud by the Dems. Coleman won initially,Franken challenged until Acorn and the Democrats could invent more votes for him while throwing out Coleman's legit votes. Just like the Governor election in Washington State.

You base this on what exactly?

He was just trying for better than 3/10. Honestly, I'd give it a 6. Good Job.