Kill him. Kill him now. Kill him deader than the deadest dead thing.

I wonder if there's some way to set up a fund, awarded to the first person who can prove they killed him, where you paypal donations to bump up the bounty. Like a charity, but for assassinating this murderous asshole. I'd guess once you reach a certain amount, the guy's days would be numbered, or he'd have to go into hiding, which would accomplish the same thing: curtailing his ability to run the government and security apparatus.

And for the one-world leftist lemming/parrot chimerae, before you start yelling out 'racist,' read up on exactly how Mugabe came to power, and from a few different sources, then put in your goddamn buck like everybody else.

Gov. in the Time of Cholera

Mugabe -- world's worst dictator? He's got to be in the top 3

KaponoFor3: Mugabe -- world's worst dictator? He's got to be in the top 3

Mugabe's sin as dictator has been pride. In terms of the long-term damage to his country he's definitely towards the top of the list, but he hasn't been systematically executing his population so at least he has that going for him.

People disappear, yes, and other are beaten to death by the secret police, but it's nothing like Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, etc. He's destroyed the country, not the population.

Hender: Mugabe's sin as dictator has been pride.

I meant world's worst LIVING dictator, apologies for not making that clear.

KaponoFor3: I meant world's worst LIVING dictator, apologies for not making that clear.

That's definitely arguable. Worst has so many possible definition. Zimbabwe's agricultural and financial infrastructure are in ruins, huge swaths of population have emigrated to South Africa and other countries, and a cholera epidemic has killed more than 2000 people so far which means there isn't clean water or adequate medical care, either, but hey, at least he's not sending people to labor camps or executing people of one ethnicity. I wouldn't want to live there, but I wouldn't fear for my physical safety as much as some other places in the world.

stjohn: I'd guess once you reach a certain amount, the guy's days would be numbered, or he'd have to go into hiding, which would accomplish the same thing: curtailing his ability to run the government and security apparatus.

I'd be worried that he's actually a stabilizing force in the region. Without him there might be mass genocide... well more mass genocide... on second thought, kill him.

netweavr: I'd be worried that he's actually a stabilizing force in the region. Without him there might be mass genocide... well more mass genocide... on second thought, kill him.

Genocide...in Zimbabwe? Or in the region?

netweavr: stjohn: I'd guess once you reach a certain amount, the guy's days would be numbered, or he'd have to go into hiding, which would accomplish the same thing: curtailing his ability to run the government and security apparatus.

I'd be worried that he's actually a stabilizing force in the region. Without him there might be mass genocide... well more mass genocide... on second thought, kill him.

That's the problem with anything we might do about Mugabe, though...as bad as things are, they can get much worse.

Hender: Genocide...in Zimbabwe? Or in the region?

Zimbabwe's military still supports Mugabe. They'd probably go apeshiat on the country-side.

As for regional, it'd probably depend on how South Africa handled the refugees.

netweavr: Hender: Genocide...in Zimbabwe? Or in the region?

Zimbabwe's military still supports Mugabe. They'd probably go apeshiat on the country-side.

As for regional, it'd probably depend on how South Africa handled the refugees.

As batshiat crazy as Mugabe is, he's remembering the ironclad rule of being a dictator: make sure the military gets paid and eats, even if no one else does.

stjohn: Kill him. Kill him now. Kill him deader than the deadest dead thing.

I wonder if there's some way to set up a fund, awarded to the first person who can prove they killed him, where you paypal donations to bump up the bounty. Like a charity, but for assassinating this murderous asshole. I'd guess once you reach a certain amount, the guy's days would be numbered, or he'd have to go into hiding, which would accomplish the same thing: curtailing his ability to run the government and security apparatus.

And for the one-world leftist lemming/parrot chimerae, before you start yelling out 'racist,' read up on exactly how Mugabe came to power, and from a few different sources, then put in your goddamn buck like everybody else.

From a purely legal standpoint, how legal is that? Would people who donate to a fund to kill someone be breaking a law? I shouldn't think it's something that's come up enough for there to be a precedent or established law on the matter.

I'd love for that bastard to be removed.

KaponoFor3: I meant world's worst LIVING dictator, apologies for not making that clear.

Are you assuming that Kim Jong-Il is no longer alive?

GAT_00: Are you assuming that Kim Jong-Il is no longer alive

Note I said top 3, at least. KJI is up there as well. Not sure who I'd put in the 3rd spot.

KaponoFor3: GAT_00: Are you assuming that Kim Jong-Il is no longer alive

Note I said top 3, at least. KJI is up there as well. Not sure who I'd put in the 3rd spot.

To be fair, it's entirely possible he is dead.

And the third slot could be given to Omar Hasan Ahmad al-Bashir (new window).

Actually he may be the worst of the three.

netweavr: Zimbabwe's military still supports Mugabe. They'd probably go apeshiat on the country-side.

As for regional, it'd probably depend on how South Africa handled the refugees.

OK, I misunderstood you--you were talking about possibilities. I thought you were implying that genocide had already taken place in Zimbabwe.

netweavr: To be fair, it's entirely possible he is dead.

And the third slot could be given to Omar Hasan Ahmad al-Bashir (new window).

Actually he may be the worst of the three.

Yeah, he'd be one of my picks, too.

Hender: OK, I misunderstood you--you were talking about possibilities. I thought you were implying that genocide had already taken place in Zimbabwe.

Not unless you count the actions against opposition parties and non-native Rhodesians. It'd be hard to justify that compared to, say, Darfur though.

Mugabe might be bad, but at least he isn't Bush. Who are we to criticize?

/I can haz BDS?
//Farmin be hard yo.

Millions of people oppressed by a brutal dictator. Shouldn't we invade?

Slaxl:
From a purely legal standpoint, how legal is that? Would people who donate to a fund to kill someone be breaking a law? I shouldn't think it's something that's come up enough for there to be a precedent or established law on the matter.

I'd love for that bastard to be removed.

IIRC, Mickey Rourke used to donate large amounts of money to IRA front groups, and he's doing just fine.

A group with the goal of bringing about regime change in the USA or its allies is usually defined as a terrorist group. Giving material support to a group so designated IS illegal. Giving support to a group not declared a terrorist organization, well, that's OK, as far as I know. If Mugabe's government complained to the US and asked the State Dept to designate said group as a terrorist organization, it's hard to fathom much would get done on our end.

KaponoFor3: GAT_00: Are you assuming that Kim Jong-Il is no longer alive

Note I said top 3, at least. KJI is up there as well. Not sure who I'd put in the 3rd spot.

Maybe this guy



Than Shwe(p)

KaponoFor3: Note I said top 3, at least. KJI is up there as well. Not sure who I'd put in the 3rd spot.

Oh, missed the top 3 thing. And I'm not sure who is worse between Burma and Sudan. One is practicing genocide, the other allowed 120,000 of his citizens to die in a hurricane. That is such a disgusting tie I think we have to make it a top 4 list.

GAT_00:
Oh, missed the top 3 thing. And I'm not sure who is worse between Burma and Sudan. One is practicing genocide, the other allowed 120,000 of his citizens to die in a hurricane. That is such a disgusting tie I think we have to make it a top 4 list.

Then there was that guy who let ~2000 of his own citizens die in a hurricane. Just sayin.

stjohn: GAT_00:
Oh, missed the top 3 thing. And I'm not sure who is worse between Burma and Sudan. One is practicing genocide, the other allowed 120,000 of his citizens to die in a hurricane. That is such a disgusting tie I think we have to make it a top 4 list.

Then there was that guy who let ~2000 of his own citizens die in a hurricane. Just sayin.

Let's not do this. Bush sucked, but compared to KJI or Mugabe? That's like comparing Hoover to Hitler. One sucked, the other was a monster.

Bloody William: That's like comparing Hoover to Hitler. One sucked, the other was a monster.

I see what you did there.

Yah socialism?

Seriously, Mugabe has to go. Given a plane ticket and a sniper rifle I'd do it myself.

Chairman Obam is taking notes... see opening in Club Gitmo soon....

stjohn: Kill him. Kill him now. Kill him deader than the deadest dead thing.

Then burn the remains, mix the ashes into some concrete, and dump it into a tectonic subduction zone.

Might as well go all the way...
=Smidge=

stjohn: Kill him. Kill him now. Kill him deader than the deadest dead thing.

I wonder if there's some way to set up a fund, awarded to the first person who can prove they killed him, where you paypal donations to bump up the bounty. Like a charity, but for assassinating this murderous asshole. I'd guess once you reach a certain amount, the guy's days would be numbered, or he'd have to go into hiding, which would accomplish the same thing: curtailing his ability to run the government and security apparatus.

And for the one-world leftist lemming/parrot chimerae, before you start yelling out 'racist,' read up on exactly how Mugabe came to power, and from a few different sources, then put in your goddamn buck like everybody else.

Just be sure the donations aren't in Zimbabwean dollars.

To fix this problem, the UN should lose a couple million (non-Zimbabwean) dollars.

And if a group of bored yet concerned ex-special forces types conveniently "find" that money and use it to fund a covert assassination of Mugabe, sorry Bobby, but that's life.

stjohn: And for the one-world leftist lemming/parrot chimerae, before you start yelling out 'racist,' read up on exactly how Mugabe came to power, and from a few different sources, then put in your goddamn buck like everybody else.

I'm a one-world leftest lemming/parrot chimera, and I approve of this message.

/ Would donate
// Kill him

I think Motlanthe should send some hard old Afrikaaners to kill him.

/srsly

Mugabe, Kim, Than Shwe, and al-Bashir of Sudan all are substantially propped up by China. Chinese armaments... Chinese PLA troops, according to rumors, even.

Yet, Walmart can't sell Cuban cigars.

/ sadly, no, we don't have 'moral authority', either

Bloody William:
Let's not do this. Bush sucked, but compared to KJI or Mugabe? That's like comparing Hoover to Hitler. One sucked, the other was a monster.

I keed. I retract my comparison of Bush to Mugabe, even though it was only in jest. Not in the same league, not even in the same farkin' sport.

Ain`Soph: Seriously, Mugabe has to go. Given a plane ticket and a sniper rifle I'd do it myself.

Too bad you're about 30 years too late. Back then, the SA government and a good chunk of higher-ups at the CIA would have gladly furnished you with what you need. But I'm sure there are still a lot of whenwes (Ex-Rhodesians who left Zim in the early days), recently-displaced farmers and their employees, along with regular Zimbabweans with disappeared relatives who would gladly take you up on your offer.

Lionel Mandrake: Millions of people oppressed by a brutal dictator. Shouldn't we invade?

Rice told Bush not to cause it would look bad on America if Bush invaded a 3rd oil producing country.

Hender: KaponoFor3: Mugabe -- world's worst dictator? He's got to be in the top 3

Mugabe's sin as dictator has been pride. In terms of the long-term damage to his country he's definitely towards the top of the list, but he hasn't been systematically executing his population so at least he has that going for him.

People disappear, yes, and other are beaten to death by the secret police, but it's nothing like Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, etc. He's destroyed the country, not the population.

He doesn't have the same level or power or control over his people the way those socialist dictators did.

There's nothing wrong with Mugabe. We are just failing to understand him and his culture.

Lionel Mandrake: Millions of people oppressed by a brutal dictator. Shouldn't we invade?

Only if we're assured of losing billions of dollars. Otherwise it would be immoral.

Nemo's Brother: He doesn't have the same level or power or control over his people the way those socialist dictators did.

Socialism is not the same as fascism. Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist.

/They are all douchebags.

Lionel Mandrake: Millions of people oppressed by a brutal dictator. Shouldn't we invade?

We shouldn't be the police of the world. Remember that America was wrong by not playing nice with the UN about Iraq. It works both ways. Obama would be wrong for helping these people out without UN resolutions and action. Action the key word.

stjohn: Then there was that guy who let ~2000 of his own citizens die in a hurricane. Just sayin.

What he should have done was send in cattle cars and imprison them against their will. Because government is the solution to every problem.

paygun: There's nothing wrong with Mugabe. We are just failing to understand him and his culture.

What they fail to realize is that Mugabe is actually the victim here.

Nemo's Brother: We shouldn't be the police of the world. Remember that America was wrong by not playing nice with the UN about Iraq.

What's great about that, is no matter what we do we're wrong. We're either imperialist bastards or heartless bastards.

Nemo's Brother: paygun: There's nothing wrong with Mugabe. We are just failing to understand him and his culture.

What they fail to realize is that Mugabe is actually the victim here.

You're my new favorite farker.

He actually said he'd "work over" his new partners. He's got guys going at them with plier right now.

Did anyone see my missing s?

paygun: We're either imperialist bastards or heartless bastards.

Heartless bastards seem cheaper.

Leave the man alone. He has ruled the area since the 1980's and he knows what is best for his people.

Do you know how to handle rapid deflation? Looks like America is following in our footsteps. Calling the kettle black, you fools?

We have cholora outbreaks and death-squads. What do you know about cholera besides what you have read on the WebMD.com? Have you even participated in a death squad?

Hender: KaponoFor3: Mugabe -- world's worst dictator? He's got to be in the top 3

Mugabe's sin as dictator has been pride. In terms of the long-term damage to his country he's definitely towards the top of the list, but he hasn't been systematically executing his population so at least he has that going for him.

People disappear, yes, and other are beaten to death by the secret police, but it's nothing like Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, etc. He's destroyed the country, not the population.

Pride? How about racism? He kicked the white farmers off the farms. They were producing enough to feed the population by having large efficient farms. He broke them up to give to the blacks (I am using skin color because they are all African duh!).

Not saying that a black could not have run the farm, but he kicked the whites out due to the color of their skin. Then sub-divided the farms so each new owner got enough for subsistance farming, not enough land to produce an excess of food.

The rampant inflation and disease followed that.

Pride, no, racism yes.

Bullet to the head for him? I can only hope.