Big deal.

Essentially, as far as I am aware, during his whole career Mr Gabriel has chosen to do virtually nothing that is ethically or behaviorally wrong. He is totally a class act. I'm with him on this one, as well as, myself, being a person who has received enormous personal inspiration from a number of his songs.

//that is all

I wholeheartedly agree with Gabriel on this one, more music less crappy attempts at stilted dialogue from actors reading off cue cards. Also it's a great freaking song

Peter Gabriel is the man. Probably one of the few artists that I'd listen to anything he ever recorded, even the really weird stuff.

Well, as much as I like Mr. Gabriel's work, somebody's got to be the first:

This is the "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Annual Awards Banquet", not the "Peter Gabriel, AMPAS Awards, and Puppet Show". Out of all the entertainers in the industry, he gets globally-televised stage time, and throws a primadonna hissyfit that he doesn't get an even greater percentage of stagetime than he does, while over 99 percent of movie professionals get none at all? Fark him.

/ Let a gigantic, preposterous CGI asteroid, accompanied by melodramatic music and a second one comprised of entirely of tied-in merchandise, vaporize the entire overdressed, overfed, overprivileged, smirking, self-satisfied, self-important, useless, trivial lot of them.

"I love Peter Gabriel and was looking forward to seeing him perform at the Oscars, but I'm on his side here"

So which is it?

I loved WALL-E, love Peter Gabriel...but that song was crap.

shivashakti: I loved WALL-E, love Peter Gabriel...but that song was crap.

What the hell?! I loved that song. The credits were awesome and it took me till the 3rd viewing to realize it was the evolution of art.

BuckTurgidson: This is the "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Annual Awards Banquet", not the "Peter Gabriel, AMPAS Awards, and Puppet Show". Out of all the entertainers in the industry, he gets globally-televised stage time, and throws a primadonna hissyfit that he doesn't get an even greater percentage of stagetime than he does, while over 99 percent of movie professionals get none at all? Fark him.

C'mon, dude...they asked him to alter his work in a way he didn't want to alter it, so he said "no." Does saying "no, I won't alter my art to satisfy you" really = "primadonna hissyfit?"

Are you trollin'?

BuckTurgidson: Well, as much as I like Mr. Gabriel's work, somebody's got to be the first:

This is the "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Annual Awards Banquet", not the "Peter Gabriel, AMPAS Awards, and Puppet Show". Out of all the entertainers in the industry, he gets globally-televised stage time, and throws a primadonna hissyfit that he doesn't get an even greater percentage of stagetime than he does, while over 99 percent of movie professionals get none at all? Fark him.

Read the link before douching out next time.

Mr Gabriel himself: "I don't feel that is sufficient time to do the song justice, and I have decided to withdraw from performing," he wrote. "I fully respect and look forward to the producers' right to revamp the show. Even though song writers are small players in the filmmaking process, they are just as committed and work just as hard as the rest of the team, and I regret that this new version of the ceremony is being created in part at their expense."

Yeah, sounds like a primadonna hissy fit to me.

Once a quitter, always a quitter.



/jk
//Genesis w/o Gabriel ftw

The oscars are awful to watch. If you're not up for one of the main oscars you get shoved off of stage by the music after about 20 seconds (and even the main stars rarely get long), having stars read off of an autoprompt makes me cringe from the wooden, soulless delivery.

Give the people time to accept awards, allocate content that can be cut in order to allow for possible longer speeches or *gasp* make the awards run on a bit longer. If you're going to get stars to hand out awards, pick ones who actually have skills as a presenter and let them write their own material.

/sleeps through them most years as it's not worth staying up late due to time difference.

It's been said but just a minute for a great song? Oh please, give me more awesome montages and enthralling speeches!!! I'm with Gabriel on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0

Just because

65 seconds isn't even enough time to put on a Slipperman suit.

Gonna have to run with, "It's his farking song and if he doesn't want to truncate it, it's his call" here. There are going to people who consider this a Wentz maneuver, but put yourself in his position of being asked to encapsulate a work of your own art into 65 seconds, or shrink your painting from it's original size to 1/4 size just for the sake of affording more horrific drivel from the assclowns that speak at these events.


/burgermeister

His music is OK but that stage show is stupid. "Hey look! I'm singing while in a big ball!" "Hey look! I'm singing while upside down!" "Hey look! I'm singing on a unicycle!"

Control_this: His music is OK but that stage show is stupid. "Hey look! I'm singing while in a big ball!" "Hey look! I'm singing while upside down!" "Hey look! I'm singing on a unicycle!"

He used to dress up as a flower, keep in mind.

/all change

BuckTurgidson: Well, as much as I like Mr. Gabriel's work, somebody's got to be the first:

This is the "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Annual Awards Banquet", not the "Peter Gabriel, AMPAS Awards, and Puppet Show". Out of all the entertainers in the industry, he gets globally-televised stage time, and throws a primadonna hissyfit that he doesn't get an even greater percentage of stagetime than he does, while over 99 percent of movie professionals get none at all? Fark him.

If it was the Peter Gabreil, AMPAS Awards and Puppet Show, the ratings would go through the roof.

/Peter Gabriel is better than all of us combined.
//Prove me wrong.

galactus5000: If it was the Peter Gabreil, AMPAS Awards and Puppet Show, the ratings would go through the roof.

And of course Peter Gabriel would be left wondering who the hell Peter Gabreil is, and why he was stealing his thunder.

65 seconds? How long will the inevitable speech by some industry turdburglar about the evils of downloading movies be?

The Academy awards could

a) allow the songs to be their proper length
b) allow winners to speak as long as they wished, within reason

...if they just eliminated the stupid bullshiat, the sketches and the primping and all that other stupid shiat.

The songs always had the potential to be the best part of the show -- it sure isn't the host and the smug skits they put on. Sure, there are some crappy songs put in every year, but Gabriel's song this year isn't one of them.

/Happy Birthday, Peter!

bubbaprog: The Academy awards could

a) allow the songs to be their proper length
b) allow winners to speak as long as they wished, within reason



Noooo thank you. We've all seen way too many of those "I'm famous so I get to say whatever the hell I want to" speeches that drag on way too long. Get up there and say thank you, sit back down, see ya next year.

I never heard the song before today but I have to agree it's a snooze-fest. 65 seconds is about right.

Down to Earth

lantawa: Essentially, as far as I am aware, during his whole career Mr Gabriel has chosen to do virtually nothing that is ethically or behaviorally wrong. He is totally a class act. I'm with him on this one, as well as, myself, being a person who has received enormous personal inspiration from a number of his songs.

This.

For some reason I thought the song was done by Randy Newman. How could I not tell it was Gabriel?

/Feels dumb.
//Wall-E was one of the best films I've seen in years. Should have gotten a Best Picture nom.

Let's see, every other nominated award is represented by a small sample of the work, why should songs be any different?

65 seconds? They couldn't find a full 3-4 minutes in an entire 4 hour awards ceremony?

Tron Lafontaine: 65 seconds? They couldn't find a full 3-4 minutes in an entire 4 hour awards ceremony?

The first thirty seconds are pretty interesting. The rest of the 6 minute song is muzak.

You know, if there is one highlight of the Oscars, it's the musical performances. Because there is usually one good one among the four other horrible ones. "Falling Slowly" was great last year and "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp" was wonderful because it's something you'd never expect to see at the Oscars.
They just need to nominate better songs. No more of these slow plodding numbers. And stop with the shiatty choreography where you have a bunch of people walking around a car or some crap like that. Just let the artist get on stage with a band and rock out dammit.

Fact: Odds are that the 3 minutes of him perfoming this song would've been one of the few memorable highlights of this 15-hour pig of a show.

/Epic fail on the producer

Yeah, I'm gonna have to side with PG on this one. 65 seconds.... Why even bother?

Mad respect for Peter Gabriel. One of the very few out there with integrity after all these years.

shivashakti: I loved WALL-E, love Peter Gabriel...but that song was crap.

That song was charming as hell. You need to get the sand out of your.......orfice.

Ghastly: Big deal.

Big-big-big-big-big-big-big-big deal.

first he quit Genesis and now this, the Oscars....


Gosh Pete don't be a quitter

well good luck with your "career"

"I don't feel that is sufficient time to do the song justice, and I have decided to withdraw from performing," he wrote. "I fully respect and look forward to the producers' right to revamp the show."

Why would someone have a problem with this explanation?

/someone over 12, that is
//guess I gotta be specific

Occam's Chainsaw: BuckTurgidson: Well, as much as I like Mr. Gabriel's work, somebody's got to be the first:

This is the "Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Annual Awards Banquet", not the "Peter Gabriel, AMPAS Awards, and Puppet Show". Out of all the entertainers in the industry, he gets globally-televised stage time, and throws a primadonna hissyfit that he doesn't get an even greater percentage of stagetime than he does, while over 99 percent of movie professionals get none at all? Fark him.

Read the link before douching out next time.

Mr Gabriel himself: "I don't feel that is sufficient time to do the song justice, and I have decided to withdraw from performing," he wrote. "I fully respect and look forward to the producers' right to revamp the show. Even though song writers are small players in the filmmaking process, they are just as committed and work just as hard as the rest of the team, and I regret that this new version of the ceremony is being created in part at their expense."

Yeah, sounds like a primadonna hissy fit to me.

Well, not every explanation can be made at mouth-breathing retard level. Whaddya gonna do?

Class & Integrity... some don't understand it here. It was a song for a kids movie so I would not expect something so out of the main-stream on this one. It did what it needed to do pretty well.

Anyways, I'm with Pete. If the Oscars made less room for tired jokes they could find room. But its OK. Gabriel did what he had to...the people running the Oscars will do what they have too. The adults are in the room.

Yay Gabriel!!!! you show 'em!!
only 65 seconds? a 3rd song in a medley w/ those slumdog songs?
ugh. bastards.

i heard those two nominated songs from "Slumdog" on the radio...
and i thought WTF is this shiat? it's annoying and barely listenable.
Why the soundtrack, and those two songs in particular, are getting rave reviews, i have no freakin clue.


/award shows in general are crappy IMHO.
especially the billboard music awards. ugh.

Sure, lets make the Oscars more appealing! Nominate Bruce Springsteen? Why? No one likes that guy, Miley Cyrus? Who's that? Beyonce? Never heard of her. How about we get that girl who's 9 months pregnant to sing a couple songs (cross your fingers that she doesn't go into labor before the show) and Peter Gabriel and then we can cut their songs to 30 seconds to make the trip and rehearsals worthwhile for them. This is going to be the best Awards show EVER!

Mr_Fabulous: "I don't feel that is sufficient time to do the song justice, and I have decided to withdraw from performing," he wrote. "I fully respect and look forward to the producers' right to revamp the show."

Why would someone have a problem with this explanation?

/someone over 12, that is
//guess I gotta be specific

Because people are douchebags. See this thread for a few primo examples.

Righteous.

It's the show's loss.

/admits being shocked at "That'll Do" a few years ago. Touching song, but "PG-meets-Marlon Brando" was too much...

When both PG and Genesis were great (new window)

Award shows suck.

Acceptance speeches suck.

Peter Gabriel does not.

Considering what Peter Gabriel has done, the f'ing Academy should f'ing bow down to him (and they probably would on their own). Great soundtracks, extending the scope of "World Music", playing nice in the world economic community sandbox, making socially relevant art that is artistically relevant social commentary, etc. And he bows out of a trivial appearance on an obnoxious show in a very, very graceful manner. Nothing to complain about here.

/excellent words

If PG really cared about this, he would have written a song explaining himself rather than just a simple letter.

/climbing...

I kind of wish Gabriel had waited until the ballot deadline to make this announcement, although I can certainly sympathize. I fear this will cause a backlash against WALL-E and cost the movie a couple of Oscars.

And once again, Peter Gabriel displays the difference between an artist with class and...whatever the hell modern musicians who write their songs for commercials and ringtones call themselves.

shivashakti: I loved WALL-E, love Peter Gabriel...but that song was crap.

WTF? That song made me want to sit through the credits.

Gulper Eel: Control_this: His music is OK but that stage show is stupid. "Hey look! I'm singing while in a big ball!" "Hey look! I'm singing while upside down!" "Hey look! I'm singing on a unicycle!"

He used to dress up as a flower, keep in mind.

or worse