torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

Yeah, that's what we need, Deval, more over-paid political cronies on Beacon Hill... Oh well, guess you'll just have the raise the gas tax by 29 cents or tax the citizens per mile via microchips in the inspection stickers, eh?

Again, I love living here. Wouldn't live anywhere else in the country at this point in my life, but, boy oh boy, would I love to take a baseball bat and go all Robert DeNiro a la The Untouchables on those assholes sometimes...

torch: We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.

Kind of like a 700 billion bailout for banks?

"stimulus." It seems to be a new code word for wasting money.

Was the target 1,200,001 jobs?

Jenna Jameson?

burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

The government never creates jobs! Ever! It just creates work that is rewarded with pay that can be exchanged for goods and services!

Mentat: The government never creates jobs! Ever! It just creates work that is rewarded with pay that can be exchanged for goods and services!

I want what he's having. It obviously does the job.

;)

burntdan: you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.
===========================

Pretty much, yeah.

That's how an economy works!

When did czar go from meaning "emperor" to "chief bureaucrat?"

I thought we need 3,999,999 more

BrokenToilet: When did czar go from meaning "emperor" to "chief bureaucrat?"

It didn't. They just know something that we don't.

I love it when they appoint people to positions of unaccountable power, then name the office after a dictator.

They all can't be czars, though.

We need a few Premiers, Chairmen, Sheiks, Emperors, Kings, Princes, Earls, Dukes, Shogun, Lords, Chancellors, and maybe even a Fuhrer or two.

we do have a

Chairman Obama

GIS for "Govenor"

You know the stimulus hasn't passed yet, so this seems a little premature. I can just imagine fatcat governors around the nation licking their chops as they plan to fritter away our monies into all kinds of personal projects. Soon enough we'll have 50 Blagos running around :/

Now, the real question is, would a governor from a certain non-contiguous state who feels its her business to speak about federal policies accept the money from a bailout that she herself is against? Inquiring minds want to know...

"Stimulus Czar" sounds like a Russian vibrator.

/Just sayin'

Government has never created a single job in the history of the world! That's just scientific FACT!

I hate my state, I can't wait to move when I graduate next year.

torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.

Amen, Son.

thalidomide new and improved: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.

Amen, Son.

Yeah, how awful the one entity on which we're all on the board of directors actually treats employees well. Too bad we can't disinvest and buy shares in some sweatshops. Oh, wait, we can. Move to China.

Do they need a telestrator czar?

Seriously, if you want to make the argument that jobs created in the private sector are inherently better than jobs created by the government, that's fine if you can back it up with a logical argument. I'm even inclined to agree. What I have a problem with is the small-minded nitwits in the Republican Party who think that anything attached to the government is automatically evil and anything attached to the private sector is automatically good. What I have a problem with is Republicans redefining words like "job" to make their side immune to debate (depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is, I guess).

Take the health care debate for example. I saw somewhere today some Congressman bloviating that the stimulus bill is a precursor to universal health care and that "government will be deciding what treatments you get and what doctor you can see!" Isn't that what the insurance company does now? With all due respect to Ronald Reagan, the scariest words in the English language are, "I'm sorry, your policy doesn't cover pre-existing conditions." Why is having my life dictated by a faceless Washington bureaucrat inherently worst than having it dictated by a faceless corporate bureaucrat in Delaware?

The current economic situation is to important to argue with platitudes. The people are getting burned out by appeals to emotion. They want someone to offer sane, logical solutions. If the Republicans want to be taken seriously, they need to start doing that. Defining scientific research as pork or screaming about frisbee golf courses just isn't going to cut it right now.

Mentat: burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

The government never creates jobs! Ever! It just creates work that is rewarded with pay that can be exchanged for goods and services!

Heh, fricking fake jobs. I think we should just hire David Blaine to create jobs.

Shaggy_C: You know the stimulus hasn't passed yet, so this seems a little premature. I can just imagine fatcat governors around the nation licking their chops as they plan to fritter away our monies into all kinds of personal projects. Soon enough we'll have 50 Blagos running around :/

Now, the real question is, would a governor from a certain non-contiguous state who feels its her business to speak about federal policies accept the money from a bailout that she herself is against? Inquiring minds want to know...

Seriously? Fat cat governors? Aren't you kind of a federalist?

thalidomide new and improved: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.

Amen, Son.

The stupid is strong, drugman.

We don't have a gov't any more. What's the word for a crazy all powerful group that doesn't do anything sensical yet can kill you on a whim?

Mrbogey: We don't have a gov't any more. What's the word for a crazy all powerful group that doesn't do anything sensical yet can kill you on a whim?

The Republican Party.

Mentat: Why is having my life dictated by a faceless Washington bureaucrat inherently worst than having it dictated by a faceless corporate bureaucrat in Delaware?

Consensual relationships.

Sabyen91: The Republican Party.

You really must froth at the mouth when you think about the GOP.

Mrbogey: We don't have a gov't any more. What's the word for a crazy all powerful group that doesn't do anything sensical yet can kill you on a whim?

Blackwater?

Mrbogey: We don't have a gov't any more. What's the word for a crazy all powerful group that doesn't do anything sensical yet can kill you on a whim?

Fox News?

Mrbogey: Sabyen91: The Republican Party.

You really must froth at the mouth when you think about the GOP.

I am evolved. My blood pressure just rises and my fight or flight response is triggered.

We've got czars for everything now, can we have a czar for foreign relations for specific countrys?'

I like thinking the US would have a Czar of Russia

burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

And what does the Goverment produce?

deadpo3t: burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

And what does the Goverment produce?

Hydroelectric power throughout the South via the TVA?

Czar?

deadpo3t: And what does the Goverment produce?

40% of the GDP during WWII while massively borrowing and spending to end a depression and create the middle class you enjoy today?

burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

if you live in one of the few states without an income tax. There are 7 and Mass isn't one of them.

Wow two threads where we can rip on Massachusetts' ass!

In one night.

I love Fark.

Mrbogey: We don't have a gov't any more. What's the word for a crazy all powerful group that doesn't do anything sensical yet can kill you on a whim?

The Golden Girls?

/Some of them are dead and yet you must fear them.

I thought Uma Thurman was the stimulus czar from Massachusetts ...

deadpo3t: burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

And what does the Goverment produce?,

Reg: All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

burndtdan: torch: No. Jobs created in the government sector are negative stimulus. We poor fackers have to pay for the asshat's salary, lifetime benefits and fat pension.
FAIL.

you pay for private sector salaries with your purchases of their goods or services. the routing is a little different, but the premise is pretty much the same.

Except if you choose not to purchase a the goods and/or services of a business, there are generally alternatives or you can go without. If you choose not to pay your taxes, you can end up sharing a cell with bubba.

Where did this number of 1,200,001 jobs come from? There are only 6.5 million people in the state.

Second we dont use the word czar in Massachusetts, we say premier.

I'm sure Mr. Simon will work hard at improving MA's transportation infrastructure, or at least the off-ramps and access roads leading to all of his shopping malls.

Your mall is one of them (new window)

I guess he doesn't run the same "Simon Properties" that owns all of the malls in MA. But I still don't trust him.