Mwa ha ha ha ha... some folks just don't learn from their errors.

There's no such thing as "off-duty" for most police officers.

Cog: There's no such thing as "off-duty" for most police officers.

they shouldn't be drinking while on duty

"I should bash your (expletive) head in" - Not illegal.

Chase identified himself as "a friend" of Bent, and allegedly put his hands on the officer's chest in a confrontational manner. - Illegal.

Damn, yo, they keep it real in New Hampshire.

So....what else shouldn't you say?

Bucky Katt: Cog: There's no such thing as "off-duty" for most police officers.

they shouldn't be drinking while on duty

You are kidding right?

It all depends. Did the guy know it was an off-duty cop?

[clicks link]

...he was threatened by a man he had once arrested...

The bar I work at has a frequent off-duty cop presence. We had to throw this one guy out for being incredibly combative and intoxicated. He threatened more than once to throw us all in jail. Broke some things, all that fun stuff. I got called into the station for an interview, they took it pretty serious down at his office. He got suspended fairly quickly.

As long as we're making a list here, it will never be complete without:

"After the rufies I slipped you kick in, I'm going to stuff your badge up your butt hole."

Were there witnesses? Or is this another bs story from a cop?

Damn, those guys are 26 and 27! I know I didn't look that bad in my twenties, hell I don't think I look that bad now in my forties.

This isn't the usual story of an off-duty cop being a douche. FTFA, the off-duty cop was confronted by a former arrestee. For once, I'm siding with the cop on this one. Please take note.

I once had a run-in w/ an off duty cop. He tried to pull me over for speeding. Infact the guy followed me for blocks until I stoped. He looked like he had just come from the gym or something, flashed a badge at me and physically tried to haul me out of my car. He told me if I didn't cooperate w/ me he was going to call a squad car and have me arrested. I told him that was a good idea, and if he didn't back off I'd be calling the police myself. He then told me he had taken down my license plate number and was going to be delivering me a ticked the next evening when he was on-duty. I told him "I farking dare you. I would love to see you in court explaining this to a judge." Needless to say he never showed up at my house. And I was extra careful when driving for the next few months.

Seems to me those are words that shouldn't be said to anyone.

Sounds like the cop did what he should have. And it also sounds like these people are seriously effin' stupid.

I hope I don't look that farked up a year from now. lulz

GonzoNihilist: I once had a run-in w/ an off duty cop. He tried to pull me over for speeding. Infact the guy followed me for blocks until I stoped. He looked like he had just come from the gym or something, flashed a badge at me and physically tried to haul me out of my car. He told me if I didn't cooperate w/ me he was going to call a squad car and have me arrested. I told him that was a good idea, and if he didn't back off I'd be calling the police myself. He then told me he had taken down my license plate number and was going to be delivering me a ticked the next evening when he was on-duty. I told him "I farking dare you. I would love to see you in court explaining this to a judge." Needless to say he never showed up at my house. And I was extra careful when driving for the next few months.

Too bad you weren't injured. You could have sued the state for a lot of money.

"I should bash your (expletive) head in" -- and other things you shouldn't say to an off-duty cop in a bar.

You shouldn't say that to anyone in a bar. It makes you sound like a pussy.

"I should bash your open parentheses expletive closed parentheses head in"

It just takes too long to say open and closed parentheses.

Just say farking.

It is more to the point. He will get the idea and you won't waste a bunch of words.

I started reading the headline and thought it was Chris Brown talking to Rihanna.

xuanzhiyouxuan: This isn't the usual story of an off-duty cop being a douche. FTFA, the off-duty cop was confronted by a former arrestee. For once, I'm siding with the cop on this one. Please take note.

Depends what the previous arrest was all about...

Never say you want a bj in a cop bar, the waitresses wont be able to get through because of all the pigs on their knees.

chicagogasman: Bucky Katt: Cog: There's no such thing as "off-duty" for most police officers.

they shouldn't be drinking while on duty

You are kidding right?

no shiat sherlock

chicagogasman: Bucky Katt: Cog: There's no such thing as "off-duty" for most police officers.

they shouldn't be drinking while on duty

You are kidding right?

So, on duty cops should be ok to drink, right? since alot of them drive all the time, I suppose you have no qualms if I drink and drive.

/just devils advocate
//idiot 1 said they are never off duty
///idiot 2 thinks drinking on the job is wrong
////i'm idiot 4

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: "I should bash your (expletive) head in" - Not illegal.

Chase identified himself as "a friend" of Bent, and allegedly put his hands on the officer's chest in a confrontational manner. - Illegal.

A definition for you:

Assualt: : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension of such harm or contact.

FTFA
Bent held a glass and told Wassouf, "I should bash your (expletive) head in!"

So yes, Mr. Bent is wrightfully charged. Holding an improvised weapon such as a glass, and verbally stating physical harm to the officer constitutes a criminal offense. It would be the same for you if you were in that seat and not the off duty cop.

Cosmic Crab: Depends what the previous arrest was all about...

yes it does depend, but I just thought I'd point out the difference between this off-duty cop story and all the others, which seem to go along the lines of [off duty cop/other drunk douche bag egg each other on, things get hairy, then the off-duty cop pulls his gun and/or badge and says, "see? I have more authority than the usual drunk douche bag, you're under arrest."] There are enough examples of the douche bags that this guy doesn't have to be automatically lumped in with them.

Conservationist: Bippal: The bar I work at has a frequent off-duty cop presence. We had to throw this one guy out for being incredibly combative and intoxicated. He threatened more than once to throw us all in jail. Broke some things, all that fun stuff. I got called into the station for an interview, they took it pretty serious down at his office. He got suspended fairly quickly.

Most cops are professional.

But since the crowd of losers out there loves to hear about cops getting taken down, the media's hot on the trail of those who aren't.

If we applied the same standards to people on the internet... well, there'd only be a few of us left in here ;)

Hey farkface, people on the internet dont carry guns and cant deprive you of your liberty on a whim.


/higher standard

Never, ever say you are a badge, especially if you are carrying this:

SFDnozzlehead: ...So yes, Mr. Bent is wrightfully charged...



/Sorry

Get drunk with dignity, Farkers... (new window)

I once had a run-in w/ an off duty cop. He tried to pull me over for speeding. Infact the guy followed me for blocks until I stoped. He looked like he had just come from the gym or something, flashed a badge at me and physically tried to haul me out of my car. He told me if I didn't cooperate w/ me he was going to call a squad car and have me arrested. I told him that was a good idea, and if he didn't back off I'd be calling the police myself. He then told me he had taken down my license plate number and was going to be delivering me a ticked the next evening when he was on-duty. I told him "I farking dare you. I would love to see you in court explaining this to a judge." Needless to say he never showed up at my house. And I was extra careful when driving for the next few months. Then a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my Mom got scared and said "You're moving in with your auntie and your uncle in Bel-Air." I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said FRESH and there were dice on the mirror! Pulled up to my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

SFDnozzlehead: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: "I should bash your (expletive) head in" - Not illegal.

Chase identified himself as "a friend" of Bent, and allegedly put his hands on the officer's chest in a confrontational manner. - Illegal.

A definition for you:

Assualt: : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension of such harm or contact.

FTFA
Bent held a glass and told Wassouf, "I should bash your (expletive) head in!"

So yes, Mr. Bent is wrightfully charged. Holding an improvised weapon such as a glass, and verbally stating physical harm to the officer constitutes a criminal offense. It would be the same for you if you were in that seat and not the off duty cop.

Telling a cop what you "should" do is not illegal or a threat.
Insulting a cop is not illegal.
Holding a glass is not illegal, especially not in a bar.

I'm all for charging his friend who made physical contact though.

"Improvised weapon"...ha! You should be a prosecutor.

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I once had a run-in w/ an off duty cop. He tried to pull me over for speeding. Infact the guy followed me for blocks until I stoped. He looked like he had just come from the gym or something, flashed a badge at me and physically tried to haul me out of my car. He told me if I didn't cooperate w/ me he was going to call a squad car and have me arrested. I told him that was a good idea, and if he didn't back off I'd be calling the police myself. He then told me he had taken down my license plate number and was going to be delivering me a ticked the next evening when he was on-duty. I told him "I farking dare you. I would love to see you in court explaining this to a judge." Needless to say he never showed up at my house. And I was extra careful when driving for the next few months. Then a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my Mom got scared and said "You're moving in with your auntie and your uncle in Bel-Air." I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said FRESH and there were dice on the mirror! Pulled up to my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

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Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: "I should bash your (expletive) head in" - Not illegal.

Illegal, actually. Assault can be verbal.

The difference is, if it were you and I having a shouting match, and one of us called the cops, we both would have been told to go home and cool off, or been arrested on the spot.

"Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: "I should bash your (expletive) head in" - Not illegal."

Very much illegal. You just try saying that to a policeman and see what happens. No, really. I want you to. Have a buddy film it and post it on youtube for us. Pretty please.


More fine expertise from a "qualified taxpayer".


/quit while you're ahead.
//seriously....

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: "I should bash your (expletive) head in" - Not illegal.

Chase identified himself as "a friend" of Bent, and allegedly put his hands on the officer's chest in a confrontational manner. - Illegal.

That's simple assault because he had the means and opportunity to follow through with the threat. If he called him at home and said it, THEN it wouldn't be illegal. Plus he was holding a glass, which one could argue could be used to bash his head in.

wmoonfox: Illegal, actually. Assault can be verbal.

It's probably not an assault. It was even stated hypothetically.

"Should" - implying "should, but I won't."

FlippityFlap: Very much illegal. You just try saying that to a policeman and see what happens. No, really. I want you to. Have a buddy film it and post it on youtube for us. Pretty please.

Maybe he would arrest me, maybe he wouldn't, that doesn't mean it's legal or illegal. Most judges would dismiss it in a heartbeat if that's all that was said or done, the issue of holding an "improvised weapon" (beer glass in a bar) notwithstanding.

More fine expertise from a "qualified taxpayer".

Well, I've worked in a prosecutor's office for 2 years now, so maybe I might know a bit about how things of this nature work?

assault= if someone feels threatened and the court agrees it was reasonable that you felt threatened.

same sentence over the phone= harassment.

/pls correct if I am wrong, legal farkers

srtpointman: That's simple assault because he had the means and opportunity to follow through with the threat. If he called him at home and said it, THEN it wouldn't be illegal. Plus he was holding a glass, which one could argue could be used to bash his head in.

It's all so hypothetical that it insults the intelligence though. First of all, you're assuming it was a threat, but that's an extremely weak threat if I've ever heard one. Even, "I'm going to kill you" is often found to be way too common and easily misunderstood to constitute a real threat, depending on the circumstances of course. "I should bash your head in" isn't even a statement of intent. It's totally hypothetical, and could even be construed as implying that he isn't going to do anything at all ("I should, but I won't.") Why would somebody even say it that way if they intended to actually do it? It doesn't make sense. And holding a beer glass in a bar? Please.

bighasbeen: assault= if someone feels threatened and the court agrees it was reasonable that you felt threatened.

same sentence over the phone= harassment.

/pls correct if I am wrong, legal farkers

Pretty much. It depends on the state, but there usually has to be a direct and clearly threatening physical element to it. Holding a beer glass in a bar doesn't count. Many people in thread are likely confusing it with the civil tort of the same name, which would have a lower standard, although I doubt any jury would convict the guy of that either for such a stupid and hypothetical statement.

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Pretty much. It depends on the state, but there usually has to be a direct and clearly threatening physical element to it. Holding a beer glass in a bar doesn't count. Many people in thread are likely confusing it with the civil tort of the same name, which would have a lower standard, although I doubt any jury would convict the guy of that either for such a stupid and hypothetical statement.

Er, convict = find him liable

IdahoPrime: Bucky Katt: Cog: There's no such thing as "off-duty" for most police officers.

they shouldn't be drinking while on duty

Does not agree.

Making the pursuit of joy another duty, etc., etc...

Karma Chameleon: So....what else shouldn't you say?

"Say hi to your mom for me?"

what a pussy

420666: Hey farkface, people on the internet dont carry guns and cant deprive you of your liberty on a whim.

/higher standard

And no one cares if we flame them back.

jjohnny65: Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I once had a run-in w/ an off duty cop. He tried to pull me over for speeding. Infact the guy followed me for blocks until I stoped. He looked like he had just come from the gym or something, flashed a badge at me and physically tried to haul me out of my car. He told me if I didn't cooperate w/ me he was going to call a squad car and have me arrested. I told him that was a good idea, and if he didn't back off I'd be calling the police myself. He then told me he had taken down my license plate number and was going to be delivering me a ticked the next evening when he was on-duty. I told him "I farking dare you. I would love to see you in court explaining this to a judge." Needless to say he never showed up at my house. And I was extra careful when driving for the next few months. Then a couple of guys who were up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my Mom got scared and said "You're moving in with your auntie and your uncle in Bel-Air." I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said FRESH and there were dice on the mirror! Pulled up to my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

this

Holy crap, I've been Fresh Princed!

Still, you gotta feel bad for a guy whose name is "Bent", and who's losing his hair already at 27.

This story must be true because drunk cops never lie.

"Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox Quote 2009-02-08 11:24:22 PM
wmoonfox: Illegal, actually. Assault can be verbal.

It's probably not an assault. It was even stated hypothetically.

"Should" - implying "should, but I won't."

FlippityFlap: Very much illegal. You just try saying that to a policeman and see what happens. No, really. I want you to. Have a buddy film it and post it on youtube for us. Pretty please.

Maybe he would arrest me, maybe he wouldn't, that doesn't mean it's legal or illegal. Most judges would dismiss it in a heartbeat if that's all that was said or done, the issue of holding an "improvised weapon" (beer glass in a bar) notwithstanding.

More fine expertise from a "qualified taxpayer".

Well, I've worked in a prosecutor's office for 2 years now, so maybe I might know a bit about how things of this nature work?"


Really? Where? Because I have to be at the gym in 26 minutes....