She shouldn't accept the position, she is a solid pick for the Senate seat.

SeismicJizzer: She shouldn't accept the position, she is a solid pick for the Senate seat.

THIS.

And she shouldn't check her taxes. She should hire the meanest-ass auditor she can find to check her taxes. Because that's what the GOP will do.

I'm hoping to get appointed for some position so the furious watchdogs will triple check my paperwork for me and save me some time.

You know, Barack, the party was led back from the brink by someone with an actual factual M.D.

A Democratic Senator, in my Kansas? It's more unlikely than you think.

robsul82: You know, Barack, the party was led back from the brink by someone with an actual factual M.D.

How does having an M.D. give one good bureaucratic and administrative skills? (Not saying I disagree with Dean as HHS secretary, but having an M.D. isn't a particularly relevant qualification.)

TofuTheAlmighty: How does having an M.D. give one good bureaucratic and administrative skills? (Not saying I disagree with Dean as HHS secretary, but having an M.D. isn't a particularly relevant qualification.)

The fact that he brought the party back from the brink is evidence of his administrative and bureaucratic skills. And he has a M.D.. Seems like an excellent fit for the position.

Atillathepun: TofuTheAlmighty: How does having an M.D. give one good bureaucratic and administrative skills? (Not saying I disagree with Dean as HHS secretary, but having an M.D. isn't a particularly relevant qualification.)

The fact that he brought the party back from the brink is evidence of his administrative and bureaucratic skills. And he has a M.D.. Seems like an excellent fit for the position.

He's also opposed to universal healthcare or any substantial healthcare reform at all. Dean is not some left-liberal saint the way DailyKos et al. like to believe.

TofuTheAlmighty: robsul82: You know, Barack, the party was led back from the brink by someone with an actual factual M.D.

How does having an M.D. give one good bureaucratic and administrative skills? (Not saying I disagree with Dean as HHS secretary, but having an M.D. isn't a particularly relevant qualification.)

Stop making sense, plz.

Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

CokeBear: Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

I'm pretty sure Biden is just a blatant pander to comedians. "It's okay guys, I'm not killing the funny."

Atillathepun: TofuTheAlmighty: How does having an M.D. give one good bureaucratic and administrative skills? (Not saying I disagree with Dean as HHS secretary, but having an M.D. isn't a particularly relevant qualification.)

The fact that he brought the party back from the brink is evidence of his administrative and bureaucratic skills. And he has a M.D.. Seems like an excellent fit for the position.


I still think Tom Daschle was an excellent choice for the job and should have gotten it, despite his tax problem.

CokeBear: Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

I dunno, I'm more of a fan of Shostakovich.

Atillathepun:
The fact that he brought the party back from the brink is evidence of his administrative and bureaucratic skills. And he has a M.D.. Seems like an excellent fit for the position.

MD would have a conflict of interest, eh?

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: CokeBear: Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

I dunno, I'm more of a fan of Shostakovich.

/clap

SeismicJizzer: She shouldn't accept the position, she is a solid pick for the Senate seat.

Depends on who the opposition is.

Currently, the only declared opponent is Jerry Moran, GOP Rep from western Kansas. Thing is, he's actually sane and useful. I'd probably vote for Sebelius over Moran, but I wouldn't feel bad in the least if Moran got it, either. And I'm probably to the left of 90% of Kansas. I think he'd win handily.

It gets more interesting if someone from the douche-end of the Kansas GOP challenges Moran. Kline or Kobach, perhaps. They might be able to simultaneously beat Moran and lose to Sebelius.

What's the crying shame is that Brownback is probably going to get the governorship. Absolutely no one else in the KS Dem dugout. And, if you haven't been embarrassed to be a Kansan before, I'm pretty sure Gov. Brownback will.

Lawnchair: It gets more interesting if someone from the douche-end of the Kansas GOP challenges Moran. Kline or Kobach, perhaps. They might be able to simultaneously beat Moran and lose to Sebelius.

As someone who lives in Johnson County, I think Kline wore out his welcome when he "got appointed" to the District Attorney spot in 2007. Most Republicans I know are ashamed that he's one of them.

What's the crying shame is that Brownback is probably going to get the governorship. Absolutely no one else in the KS Dem dugout. And, if you haven't been embarrassed to be a Kansan before, I'm pretty sure Gov. Brownback will.

Parkinson could be pretty strong, especially if he gets a couple years as Governor if Sebelius is offered/takes the HHS job. It'd still be a hard sell. Other than that, Dennis Moore (yes, my congressman is named after a Monty Python sketch) could win. Would he run? Probably not.

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: CokeBear: Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

I dunno, I'm more of a fan of Shostakovich.

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SeismicJizzer: She shouldn't accept the position, she is a solid pick for the Senate seat.

You're joking, right? As a nearly life-long Kansas, I can assure you there's not a chance in hell of my state electing a Democratic Senator anytime soon. I honestly don't know how we've ever managed to elect any Democratic governors here, but for some reason our state has a tendency to send complete nut jobs to Congress while sending a long line of moderates to the governor's mansion. Of course, that could change if Brownback ends up trying for the spot after leaving the Senate (god help us all). Or Phil Kline (god clearly hates us if that's the case). Or even Chris Kobach (in which case god has decided to destroy the universe and start over again). And I'm not kidding. If you thought that whole evolution thing cast Kansas and Kansans in a bad light, I can assure you that you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Now I'm just depressed. Thanks for nothing fark.

i should be secretary of HHS, byaaaaah!

No way in hell would Dean be a good Sec of HHS. The plan is to enact comprehensive healthcare reform that is going to have to be wrangled out in a bipartisan fashion, and there are not too many people in the party who are as polarizing as Dean. No way can he play nice with Congress.

I think she should try for the Senate too. Assuming Harry Reid doesn't completely roll over the next two years, the Dems have the potential to get 60+ seats.

Edsel: No way in hell would Dean be a good Sec of HHS. The plan is to enact comprehensive healthcare reform that is going to have to be wrangled out in a bipartisan fashion, and there are not too many people in the party who are as polarizing as Dean. No way can he play nice with Congress.

The Republicans were unwilling to be bipartisan on economic stimulus, why would they be bipartisan on health care reform? Forget them. At some point the Democrats have to stop rolling over.

Dil Doe: You're joking, right? As a nearly life-long Kansas, I can assure you there's not a chance in hell of my state electing a Democratic Senator anytime soon.

I take it you haven't seen the polling.

Mentat: Edsel: No way in hell would Dean be a good Sec of HHS. The plan is to enact comprehensive healthcare reform that is going to have to be wrangled out in a bipartisan fashion, and there are not too many people in the party who are as polarizing as Dean. No way can he play nice with Congress.

The Republicans were unwilling to be bipartisan on economic stimulus, why would they be bipartisan on health care reform? Forget them. At some point the Democrats have to stop rolling over.

Uh, they're politicians.

She's been an effective and popular governor here in Kansas. Sensible, moderate, liked by both parties. She'd do well in that job, I bet.

Mentat: I think she should try for the Senate too. Assuming Harry Reid doesn't completely roll over the next two years, the Dems have the potential to get 60+ seats.

You need to drop some mentats. In two years the senate will begin to swing back to the right, as middle America awakens to the fact that they have been had by demo machine politics and that Obama is a somewhat duskier, less capable Jimmy Carter.

Critic:
You need to drop some mentats. In two years the senate will begin to swing back to the right, as middle America awakens to the fact that they have been had by demo machine politics and that Obama is a somewhat duskier, less capable Jimmy Carter.

[pre-frontal cortex needed]

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: CokeBear: Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

I dunno, I'm more of a fan of Shostakovich.

I see what you did there.

Critic: Mentat: I think she should try for the Senate too. Assuming Harry Reid doesn't completely roll over the next two years, the Dems have the potential to get 60+ seats.

You need to drop some mentats. In two years the senate will begin to swing back to the right, as middle America awakens to the fact that they have been had by demo machine politics and that Obama is a somewhat duskier, less capable Jimmy Carter.

Look at the political calculus of the Senate. Most of the Dems up for reelection are big-name incumbents. Reid is the only one of the big names currently considered at risk and you would be hard-pressed to find a Democrat who wouldn't cheer if he lost. The Republican side is much more vulnerable, particularly due to retirements in Kansas (Brownback), Missouri (Bond), Florida (Martinez) and Ohio (Voinovich). New Hampshire is now in play with Gregg gone and the Northeast has been trending heavily Democrat. McCain and Specter could get backstabbed in the primaries by social conservatives. David Vitter is desperately trying to make his constituents forget that he has a diaper fetish.

Right now, 2010 is the Democrats' to lose.

carmody: She's been an effective and popular governor here in Kansas. Sensible, moderate, liked by both parties. She'd do well in that job, I bet.

I don't know about liked by both parties... moderates sure, but the conservative whargarbl seems to be picking up steam. Of course, my district voted in Lynn Jenkins over Nancy Boyda for congress, so I'm a bit pessimistic these days. My prediction for 2010: Moran wins Senate seat, Brownback gets the Governorship, Tim Huelskamp wins 1st District. Get prepared for massive embarrassment, Kansans.

Avery2: I don't know about liked by both parties... moderates sure, but the conservative whargarbl seems to be picking up steam. Of course, my district voted in Lynn Jenkins over Nancy Boyda for congress, so I'm a bit pessimistic these days. My prediction for 2010: Moran wins Senate seat, Brownback gets the Governorship, Tim Huelskamp wins 1st District. Get prepared for massive embarrassment, Kansans.

Kansas is weird. They seem to go through these cycles of electing whargarblers who immediately do something so mind-numbingly stupid the the state votes them out in the next election. The moderates reign just long enough for everyone to forget the stupidity and then BOOM the whargarblers are back.

Hi Phil Kline!

Avery2: Get prepared for massive embarrassment, Kansans.

As I suggested above, Moran isn't all that embarrassing. As close to Dole/Kassebaum sanity as we're going to get. Brownback is that embarrassing, but going Senator to Governor isn't going to give him that much larger platform.

Lawnchair: Avery2: Get prepared for massive embarrassment, Kansans.

As I suggested above, Moran isn't all that embarrassing. As close to Dole/Kassebaum sanity as we're going to get. Brownback is that embarrassing, but going Senator to Governor isn't going to give him that much larger platform.

I'll agree that Moran's an upgrade over Brownback and he does seem reasonable. His likely successor (Huelskamp) is a whargarbler, though.

Obama should nominate Howard Dean or RON PAUL

YixilTesiphon: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: CokeBear: Sebelius is an excellent choice. (and saves time, since she was already vetted for VP)

I dunno, I'm more of a fan of Shostakovich.

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I dunno, I like the sound of Senator Chokabiatch,

A friend of mine stole a beer from Sebelius' fridge on a tour of the Governor's Mansion. She has a taste for Bud Light and cheap wine.

I don't think Brownback will be governor. Kansans send GOP members to Washington but tend to fill state offices with Dems. My state rep is a Democrat.

fastbow: A friend of mine stole a beer from Sebelius' fridge on a tour of the Governor's Mansion. She has a taste for Bud Light and cheap wine.

That's funny, I heard Obama has a taste for Olde English 800 and Thunderbird!