Holy crap, I've been doing it wrong!

I do love his "slice of life" postcard excuse, though. Come on man, just say, "I wanted to fap to this." Because, really, that's what you wanted to do. And that is fine and, of course, is not illegal. The police were retards, but that is excuse is equally as almost as retarded. Personally think that he deserves more than $8000--the girl should be forced to send him BIE for a year.

brb, park.

Definition of Unlawful Surveillance in NY: Signed into law on 23 June 2003, "Stephanie's Law" prohibits "unlawful surveillance," which is defined as (1) the installation of "an imaging device" with no legitimate purpose other than surreptitiously viewing or recording another person in a bedroom, bathroom, changing room, or other specified room; (2) for the purposes of sexual arousal or gratification, the use or installation of an imaging device that surreptitiously views a person dressing or undressing when that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy; (3) the use or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view under the clothing of a person (commonly known as "upskirting"); or (4) for amusement, entertainment or profit, or to abuse or degrade the victim, the use or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously record another person dressing or undressing when that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy.

Sorry overzealous, moronic cop--the above law doesn't apply to this situation. In fact, NO law applies to this situation. And ladies, if you're laying in the middle of a park with your skirt pulled up above your butt, 1) expect to have your picture taken, you attention whore and 2) you've lost all expectation of privacy (and decency).

I'm glad the guy got a settlement for spending a night in jail on a completely ludicrous charge, but only $8K? Should have been more than that.

brigid_fitch: Sorry overzealous, moronic cop

yah, not sure you went far enough
#1) the cop who arrested him
#2) the desk sergant who allowed the booking to continue
#3) the captain on duty who didnt biatch slap the arresting officer
#4) the assistant DA who was called for didnt immediately release this guy
#5) the city which didnt prosecute the cop (how else would you reduce the number of wrongful arrests?)

oh wait, you have to wait 3 days for a DA?
and yah, 8k is TINY, he should have gotten tons more
and needs to sue the biatch attention whores who called the cops on him

I'd spend a night in jail for $8000.

jaylectricity: I'd spend a night in jail for $8000.

I'd spend a night in jail for a fifth, a quarter, and $50.

If ever a thread were worthless without pics...

Where the hell is the pic? I have some postcards I want to send.

if it was indecent enough that he could get in trouble for taking a picture of it then shouldn't she get in trouble for displaying it in public?

not that i'm arguing against more nubile female public nudity--just don't understand the reasoning.

Tr0mBoNe: jaylectricity: I'd spend a night in jail for $8000.

I'd spend a night in jail for a fifth, a quarter, and $50.

Hell I have spent a night in jail for a fifth and $50.

/tried to convince the police I wasn't paying the girl I was "donating"

So when I walk along the Charles River in Boston with my camera, and I see those hotties lying on the dock barely dressed, I should shoot?

It's bad enough that women - out in public - dressed as though they were going to a hooker convention give dirty looks to men they find admiring them (at least the ones they deserve "unworthy" of gazing upon them as, clearly if they didn't want some attention why would they be dressed like that) but once the law gets involved it's downright scary.

Listen ladies, if you don't want the attention you could, you know, dress less provocatively.

Complaining about it would be akin to a guy dressed in a gorilla suite while juggling chainsaws angrily asking "what are you looking at" to passersby.

His attire and behavior draws attention and so does yours when you go out dressed in your "fark me now" ensemble.

Who's got the pic...huh huh??

OK, so the guy is a complete creep.. it still doesn't make it illegal to take a picture of someone in a public area.

If you're going act like a whore and lay around in public with your dress hiked up over your ass don't complain when someone takes a picture.

jackbooty: OK, so the guy is a complete creep.. it still doesn't make it illegal to take a picture of someone in a public area.

THIS.

I'm not a photographer, but this crap of arresting everyone for making pictures in public places (especially in NYC) is getting out of hand. Either make a formal law (which will be ruled unconstitutional anyway) or stop it.

This guy did nothing wrong. Simple case of a cop trying to get to know the "victim" he was helping. I think he settled for too little.

voodoorat: if it was indecent enough that he could get in trouble for taking a picture of it then shouldn't she get in trouble for displaying it in public?

not that i'm arguing against more nubile female public nudity--just don't understand the reasoning.

Yeah, I often ask myself this.

Now that the Supreme Court has ruled that "child pornography" must not always involve nudity if it's under-aged girls dressed in wholly inappropriate attire and or the camera work focuses on their (fully clothed) genital regions why are young girls allowed to dress the way they do when out in public.

Isn't that -by legal definition - constitute a "sexual performance" of a child?

Or how about the SacBee reporter busted a few years back and charged with CP crimes for filming a cheerleader performance during an open to the public football game????

If what he FILMED was CP wasn't their routine illegal also?

What gives?

It almost remind me of Pacino's Devil in "The Devil's advocate:"

"Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, farkin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!"

Same thing with internet-based CP prosecutions.

Only very lately (and with much public outcry) are teens being arrested for creating images of themselves nude or having sex.

However, should an adult male be found in possession of one of the eleventybillion such pics floating around the net - created and posted online by the teens themselves - he's toast.

brigid_fitch: And ladies, if you're laying in the middle of a park with your skirt pulled up above your butt, 1) expect to have your picture taken, you attention whore and 2) you've lost all expectation of privacy

Bears repeating. The guy didn't break into her apartment and hide a camera to take these shots. This doof had her skirt hiked above her ass in a public park. That's practically an invitation to have guys snap pictures of your (fine, lucious) ass.


Sort of reminds me of the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" episode where Larry David gets yelled at by some woman in a theater, "This guy was STARING at my CHEST!" To which he replies, "Yeah, honey... you wore that dress so people would notice your SHOES."

I laughed my ass off at that. And fully intend to use that line if I ever get caught staring at a girls rack next time I'm at a club.

Isn't this the vocation of every paparazzo in the world?
"Pamela Anderson shows some nipple -- The Sun is there!"

/Wait. What was I thinking? Arrest them all.

very disappointed no pics!!!

/pants was down around my ankles ready for some action...sorry denied!

Worthless.

I see, if you work for a tabloid magazine it's legal, but if you don't you go to jail. Makes perfect sense.

ZAZ: So when I walk along the Charles River in Boston with my camera, and I see those hotties lying on the dock barely dressed, I should shoot?


if you mean, use your camera, yes. No to all other meanings.

The important phrase to remember with public photography is "reasonable expectation of privacy". IANAL, but have been approached by many wannabe Jack Bauers who are convinced that anyone taking pictures of landmarks is obviously planning a terrorist attack. When a public servant comes up to you in a public place and asks for your camera you tell them. "Try to take it from me."
We used to do lots of model shoots at pools and fountains and stuff and if it's planned shoot you need to have both a permit (from the property owner) and model release forms for the girls.
If you're just out snapping cell phone pictures of cute girls exposing themselves in public, model releases are not required. Goes back to the reasonable expectation of privacy. If you stick your camera under a dressing room door, you are violating that person's reasonable expectation of privacy. If you are taking a picture of a girl who is running around half naked in public, they have no reasonable expectation of privacy.
That having been said, if you walk around following ladies to take pictures of them without their permission, you are definitely heading into creepyville and you should not be surprised when Russel Crowe and Sean Penn jump out of the bushes and start beating you up.
\loves girls who dress slutty in public
\\someone takes my picture, I take it as a compliment

Let me guess: The cop thought he could get off with her if he got all tough on the guy.

Am I close...?

JackofBlades: Step 4: Thank this case for setting a precedent for unlawful, frivolous surveillance.

Nah, they dropped charges and settled without admitting wrong-doing. Doesn't set precedent for anything really.

Tr0mBoNe: jaylectricity: I'd spend a night in jail for $8000.

I'd spend a night in jail for a fifth, a quarter, and $50.

I'll take a quarter of Maui Wowie-and one 12oz. Long Trail-cold please.

Just because you act like a whore doesn't mean you're a whore I guess. Just because I act like a pimp doesn't mean I'm a pimp, either.

Translation: Imma beat yo naked ass, girl. Now stop actin stoopid.

jackbooty: it still doesn't make it illegal to take a picture of someone in a public area.

this

Hand Banana: If you're going act like a whore and lay around in public with your dress hiked up over your ass don't complain when someone takes a picture.

and this

WayToBlue: Not THE pic, but the real pic is probably similar.



Clearly he deserved jail time, along with the inventor of google street view which is where this pic came from.

Oh come on, can we not get a bigger version of that? Sheesh!

ok, i have to say it...

Step 1: take a picture
Step 2: spend a night in jail
Step 3: Profit!

WayToBlue: Not THE pic, but the real pic is probably similar.


Clearly he deserved jail time, along with the inventor of google street view which is where this pic came from.

Yeah, Google can be loads of fun. Especially the old open webcam trick. :D

voyvf: WayToBlue: Not THE pic, but the real pic is probably similar.


Clearly he deserved jail time, along with the inventor of google street view which is where this pic came from.

Yeah, Google can be loads of fun. Especially the old open webcam trick. :D

Heh, sometimes people get really annoyed when the camera moves randomly. Or so I've heard.

That said, if one was doing research and looking for a collection of images obtained in such a way (without having to do the work), is there a site that has those? A friend wants to know

tonesskin: voyvf: WayToBlue: Not THE pic, but the real pic is probably similar.


Clearly he deserved jail time, along with the inventor of google street view which is where this pic came from.

Yeah, Google can be loads of fun. Especially the old open webcam trick. :D

Heh, sometimes people get really annoyed when the camera moves randomly. Or so I've heard.

That said, if one was doing research and looking for a collection of images obtained in such a way (without having to do the work), is there a site that has those? A friend wants to know

You know, I have such a site bookmarked, but my bookmark server is down right now (kept them in a mysql DB so I could search them easier). But a little bit of googling should pull up such a site.

COP HATE THREAD!!!
YAY

Sorry, still asleep

Oh_Enough_Already: It's bad enough that women - out in public - dressed as though they were going to a hooker convention give dirty looks to men they find admiring them (at least the ones they deserve "unworthy" of gazing upon them as, clearly if they didn't want some attention why would they be dressed like that) but once the law gets involved it's downright scary.

Listen ladies, if you don't want the attention you could, you know, dress less provocatively.

Complaining about it would be akin to a guy dressed in a gorilla suite while juggling chainsaws angrily asking "what are you looking at" to passersby.

His attire and behavior draws attention and so does yours when you go out dressed in your "fark me now" ensemble.

Way back, bout 1400 years ago, this normal every day guy named Muhammad used to get sideways looks from women whenever he was "noticing them."He got beat up by men who resented him noticing their girlfriends no matter how clearly visible the tops of their arieolas were with their low cut dresses.

Women weren't too interested in him so it was always going to be a "look but don't touch" scenario for poor Muhammad.

Cognitive dissonance kicked in and soon Muhammad just came to view all these women as "whores" even though he didn't really know much about them.

now, time passed and Muhammed became quite an influential man, mostly because he was schizophrenic and people around him were... gullible. still though, Muhammed could not get a pretty girl to look at his wiener.

I think you can see where this is going now.





true story

brichter: Oh_Enough_Already: It's bad enough that women - out in public - dressed as though they were going to a hooker convention give dirty looks to men they find admiring them (at least the ones they deserve "unworthy" of gazing upon them as, clearly if they didn't want some attention why would they be dressed like that) but once the law gets involved it's downright scary.

Listen ladies, if you don't want the attention you could, you know, dress less provocatively.

Complaining about it would be akin to a guy dressed in a gorilla suite while juggling chainsaws angrily asking "what are you looking at" to passersby.

His attire and behavior draws attention and so does yours when you go out dressed in your "fark me now" ensemble.

Way back, bout 1400 years ago, this normal every day guy named Muhammad used to get sideways looks from women whenever he was "noticing them."He got beat up by men who resented him noticing their girlfriends no matter how clearly visible the tops of their arieolas were with their low cut dresses.

Women weren't too interested in him so it was always going to be a "look but don't touch" scenario for poor Muhammad.

Cognitive dissonance kicked in and soon Muhammad just came to view all these women as "whores" even though he didn't really know much about them.

now, time passed and Muhammed became quite an influential man, mostly because he was schizophrenic and people around him were... gullible. still though, Muhammed could not get a pretty girl to look at his wiener.

I think you can see where this is going now.

true story

Well played, sir.

These must be some of those 'good' cops I keep hearing about. You know, the ones the actually know the law.

I'll be at the park.

Maybe she should have been arrested for exhibitionism.

brigid_fitch: Sorry overzealous, moronic cop--the above law doesn't apply to this situation. In fact, NO law applies to this situation. And ladies, if you're laying in the middle of a park with your skirt pulled up above your butt, 1) expect to have your picture taken, you attention whore and 2) you've lost all expectation of privacy (and decency).

I'm glad the guy got a settlement for spending a night in jail on a completely ludicrous charge, but only $8K? Should have been more than that.

It's true - if you're in a public park, photographs of you are fair game.

As for $8,000, I'm guessing he didn't want to push his luck. I'd take it too. Hell, I'd take 1K.

tonesskin: I do love his "slice of life" postcard excuse, though. Come on man, just say, "I wanted to fap to this." Because, really, that's what you wanted to do. And that is fine and, of course, is not illegal. The police were retards, but that is excuse is equally as almost as retarded. Personally think that he deserves more than $8000--the girl should be forced to send him BIE for a year.

BIE?.

Bureau International des Expositions?
Bureau of Indian Education (Washington, DC)?
Buck Institute for Education (Novato, CA)?
Boundary Integral Equation?
Business in the Environment?
Bureau of Industry Economics (Australia)?
Business Information Entity?
Bureau voor de Industriële Eigendom (Dutch: Netherlands Industrial Property Office)?
Britain in Europe (UK political party)?
British Institute of Embalmers (West Midlands, England)?
Bachelor of Industrial Engineering?
Bintan Industrial Estate (Singapore)?
Bullous Ichthyosiform Erythroderma?
Business Intelligence Environment?
Brakes in Emergency?
Business Information Exchange (Engine)?
Bureau Internationale de l'Education?
Bachelor in Economics?
British Irish Exchange?
Boot Image Extractor?
Business Integration Engine?
Base Station Interface Equipment?

jackbooty: OK, so the guy is a complete creep..

Why do you say that? Because he took a picture of an obvious attention whore? He was probably just going to forward it to a couple of his friends: "OMG, I knew you wouldn't believe me if I told you, so I took this picture". I don't even care if he was going to use it as fapping material, he's not creepy for just taking some woman's picture. Creepy would be asking her to move a little to the right because her nosy friend was in the shot.

brichter: true story

You're ignorant. Niqabs had/have nothing to do with Muhammed.

soooooo, step 2 is get arrested, I see it now.......

\oh its so hot you wouldn't belive it