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(Paste Magazine) Asinine Jethro Tull over Metallica, Peabo Bryson over Neil Young: The Most Egregious Grammy Shafts   (pastemagazine.com) divider line 54
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Raiden333 [TotalFark] 2009-02-06 09:27:38 PM  
Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

 
whiskeyinthejar [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-02-06 09:50:50 PM  
In before the Metallica rage.

 
Winktologist [TotalFark] 2009-02-06 10:00:01 PM  
Metallica has sucked since the black album.

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2009-02-06 10:00:10 PM  
Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

Yes. But in the "heavy metal" category? That was a bit silly.

 
Winktologist [TotalFark] 2009-02-06 10:01:10 PM  
(Take notes, kids. That's the EASIEST troll ever...because it's true.)

 
clovis69 2009-02-06 10:42:50 PM  
Winktologist: Metallica has sucked since the black album.

Its funny cause its true.

 
Whatthefark 2009-02-06 11:01:22 PM  
Winktologist: Metallica has sucked since the black album.

Yeah, but they lost to Tull when they we're nominated for And Justice For All. They even performed One at the Grammys. (new window) I think that's what really rubbed salt in the wound.

That was the first and last time I ever watched the Grammys

 
skeeterjennings 2009-02-06 11:05:16 PM  
Jane's Addiction deserved it more than Metallica.

 
Creeping Malaise 2009-02-06 11:11:26 PM  
1981 - Christopher Cross over The Wall.

I still haven't figured that one out...

 
matthew_tray 2009-02-06 11:11:35 PM  
Look...Jethro Tull trumping Metallica is pretty awful, but NOTHING will ever top the 1991 American Music Awards.

Best New Rock Band: Firehouse beat Nirvana and AIC.

Read that again. Biggest. Snub. Ever.

 
steamingpile 2009-02-06 11:30:33 PM  
Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

Good god. You are farking crazy, that man sucks.

 
84Charlie 2009-02-06 11:36:07 PM  
But Tull had a great live album:

Jethro Dull- Bore 'Em at the Forum.

Jethro Tull sucks and is not even close to being rock music never mind heavy metal music.

 
little miss 2009-02-06 11:48:20 PM  
Meh. Nobody watches the Grammy's anymore anyway. It would be nice to have a music awards show that is actually based on the music, though.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-02-06 11:55:33 PM  
Creeping Malaise: 1981 - Christopher Cross over The Wall.

I still haven't figured that one out...


???


The Wall came out in 1979.

/not going to bother if Cross came out with an album in 1979.

 
don't understand 2009-02-06 11:58:12 PM  
84Charlie: But Tull had a great live album:

Jethro Dull- Bore 'Em at the Forum.

Jethro Tull sucks and is not even close to being rock music never mind heavy metal music.


84Charlie: But Tull had a great live album:

Jethro Dull- Bore 'Em at the Forum.

Jethro Tull sucks and is not even close to being rock music never mind heavy metal music.


I think I just lost 50 IQ points reading your profile. Jesus, man, you're an idiot of the highest degree.

Congrats.

 
Sherjo311 2009-02-07 12:10:03 AM  
god over lemmy

/pfft

 
cretinbob [TotalFark] 2009-02-07 12:18:38 AM  
Winktologist: Metallica has sucked since the black album Lars Ulrich decided to kick their fans in the nuts.


ftfy , probably back farther than that though.

As for the list, I stopped when MMMbop was supposedly shafted. If anything, those kids needed to be dropped down a very deep one.


What the quickest way to end your music career? Win a Grammy.

 
SPna15 2009-02-07 12:20:32 AM  
matthew_tray: Best New Rock Band: Firehouse beat Nirvana and AIC.

Read that again. Biggest. Snub. Ever.


To be fair, Nirvana sucks.

 
Sherjo311 2009-02-07 12:26:24 AM  
SPna15

your opinions are bad and you should feel bad

 
chickyraptor 2009-02-07 12:30:11 AM  
Lionel Mandrake: Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

Yes. But in the "heavy metal" category?


No. Try again.

 
bagb8709 2009-02-07 12:34:52 AM  
those of you bashing Metallica's snub to Jethro Tull DO realize this was pre-black album right? (meaning when it is OK to say you like them when you're on the "Metallica Sucks" bandwagon)

/Don't care about the Grammys
//Still likes Metallica
///Napster was almost 10 years ago get over it.

 
Warchild [TotalFark] 2009-02-07 12:40:49 AM  
Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

I concur

 
SPna15 2009-02-07 12:58:19 AM  
Sherjo311: you should feel bad

Why?

 
CrazyCurt 2009-02-07 01:50:40 AM  
Dudes, when Jethro Tull won I was ecstatic. I remember it like the U.S. Olympic Hockey win over the Soviets. Here's a group of guys that had played like 3 times as long, each one accomplished at multiple instruments and made a silly album like "Rock Island" that won in the FIRST Heavy Metal grammy award ceremony, were twice the age of Fartallica and could still kick their asses. I was in tears. Of pure joy. For once there was justice! And justice for all!

/ Can anyone in Fartallica play a glokenspiel? CAN THEY!? Didn't think so. Talent over twits is my view and for once it happened. Not likely ever again.

// I saw Jethro Tull when they were all in their 50s and they still kicked major ass and hyped the crowd like a punk rock concert -- Ian Anderson is unearthly, just a maniac.

/// He was too old to rock'n'roll, but too young to die -- plus Anderson's Smoked Salmon is pretty good ( the dude runs a salmon farm for fark's sake )

 
Creeping Malaise 2009-02-07 02:31:15 AM  
FeedTheCollapse: Creeping Malaise: 1981 - Christopher Cross over The Wall.
I still haven't figured that one out...
???

The Wall came out in 1979.
/not going to bother if Cross came out with an album in 1979.



FTFA C&P

1981
Winner: Christopher Cross by Christopher CrossLosers: Glass Houses by Billy Joel, The Wall by Pink Floyd, Trilogy: Past Present Future by Frank Sinatra, Guilty by Barbra Streisand
Shafted: The Wall by Pink Floyd. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?!


I know when it came out, it wasn't eligible until 1981, obviously.

 
ScreamingHangover 2009-02-07 03:33:23 AM  
bagb8709: those of you bashing Metallica's snub to Jethro Tull DO realize this was pre-black album right? (meaning when it is OK to say you like them when you're on the "Metallica Sucks" bandwagon)


Ain't never had anything personal against Metallica as musicians, except they've always seemed like a watered down version of Motorhead marketed to suburban panty waists.



At least the Tull broke some new ground and can play more than 4 chords. Being "metal" isn't limited to acting like a Motorhead wannabe.


As for me, If I want to listen to Motorhead, I listen to f@rking Motorhead.

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2009-02-07 04:08:25 AM  
chickyraptor: Lionel Mandrake: Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

Yes. But in the "heavy metal" category?

No. Try again.


By all means...criticize without explanation.

 
Gulper Eel [TotalFark] 2009-02-07 06:13:53 AM  
Biggest hosing of all?

Number of Grammys won by the Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin, Janis Joplin, Neil Young, Queen, Bob Marley, and the Doors: 0

Also, "Winchester Cathedral" over "Eleanor Rigby" AND "Good Vibrations" in '66 is the biggest fark-up ever.

 
MikeXpop 2009-02-07 06:17:34 AM  
Lionel Mandrake: chickyraptor: Lionel Mandrake: Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

Yes. But in the "heavy metal" category?

No. Try again.

By all means...criticize without explanation.


It wasn't the "heavy metal" category, it was "Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental". Now you can argue over whether or not Jethro Tull is a Hard Rock group (they aren't), but no one ever claimed they were metal.

 
Thward 2009-02-07 06:29:22 AM  
1978: A Taste of Honey beats Elvis Costello and The Cars as best new artist, with their song "Boogie Oogie Oogie." At the time, rock was just exploding with new talent and music, and the award went to the safest, blandest, most commercialized crap imaginable.

Crazy Curt: The stupidity of the Best Metal award going to Jethro Tull is not that they didn't deserve a Grammy; it was that they got a Grammy for a genre that they have nothing to do with, except perhaps writing one good song ("Locomotive Breath"). Jrthro Tull could have just as easily been given the award for Best Rap Artist/Album. Or Best Country Artist/Album. Would those awards make you ecstatic?

 
galactus5000 2009-02-07 06:53:51 AM  
1981 - Christopher Cross over The Wall.

I still haven't figured that one out...


img4.ifilmpro.com
Because that is the smoothest shiat around.

Question answered.

 
bv2112 2009-02-07 09:32:32 AM  
I like Tull way more than I like Metallica, but Crest of a Knave is not a particularly good album. Budapest is boring and not a rock song, and Steel Monkey blows. Great Jethro Tull songs are classics, the other Tull songs are unrealistic abominations.

 
Gratch 2009-02-07 09:37:42 AM  
People actually care about the Grammy's? Huh.

/would take Tull over Metallica any day
//Ian Anderson's solo albums are brilliant. Everyone on the planet should have a copy of "Secret Language of Birds".

 
Buddha Belly 2009-02-07 09:50:01 AM  
Raiden333: Uh, I'll take Tull over Metallica any day. Ian Anderson is a farking genius.

What's that word everyone uses... oh, THIS.

 
Taxee 2009-02-07 09:53:56 AM  
What would have made that moment even funnier when Tull beat out Metallica was if Max Baer Jr. could have announced and/or presented the award to Ian Anderson.

 
takesthecake 2009-02-07 10:34:32 AM  
Thanks for posting... spending rest of day on youtube listening to all these good songs I had forgotten. BTW, "skating away" is an all time fav.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-02-07 11:23:51 AM  
Creeping Malaise: I know when it came out, it wasn't eligible until 1981, obviously.

that just doesn't make any damn sense. Yet another reason the Grammy's blow.

 
Wentzbag 2009-02-07 12:19:50 PM  
1989
Winner: Tracy Chapman
Losers: Rick Astley, Toni Childs, Take 6, Vanessa L. Williams
Shafted: Toni Childs.


Something must be done about this.

 
KingGeegers 2009-02-07 01:21:06 PM  
How about Starland Vocal Band over Boston for Best New Artist in 1977, Marvin Hamlisch over Bad Company in 1975, or Debbie Boone over Foreigner in 1978.

 
Hobo Jr. 2009-02-07 01:21:14 PM  
Jethro Tull is fine for about a song or two after that I just want them to get to the point.

Metallica rocks. Death Magnetic rocks. It's no Black Album or Justice for All but most bands today wish they could write and play something half as good as those two albums.

 
BiblioTech [TotalFark] 2009-02-07 01:21:22 PM  
CrazyCurt: I saw Jethro Tull when they were all in their 50s

Saw Tull last summer at Red Rocks. Still put on a great show and this time around there was no tear gas, police, or helicopters. Any group that can play through a riot while choking on tear gas gets my vote for hard rock Grammy. Link (new window)

/rock bands banned from Red Rocks for 5 years after that one.

 
HempHead 2009-02-07 01:21:46 PM  
I have heard rumors that Sinatra was soo mad at losing to Christopher Cross that he had his Mafioso buddies in the record business sabotage his career and that is why you haven't heard from him in the past 26 years.


Taste of Honey won because '78 was a big year for disco (the last thankfully) and there was no disco category.

Taste of Honey == Destiny's Child

 
sadbad 2009-02-07 01:39:51 PM  
The Grammys are a joke. The Alternative awards do amuse me though, it's like a contest to see how many times they can nominate Bjork and Tori Amos and then bludgeon with the award screaming "NOT YOURS"

 
xbattlewax 2009-02-07 04:13:45 PM  
Wentzbag: 1989
Winner: Tracy Chapman
Losers: Rick Astley, Toni Childs, Take 6, Vanessa L. Williams
Shafted: Toni Childs.


Something must be done about this.


Link to Toni Childs? (new window)

 
The Amazing Rando! 2009-02-07 04:20:36 PM  
I'd like to thank Jethro Tull for not posting today.

 
Gulper Eel [TotalFark] 2009-02-07 04:26:45 PM  
Yes, but did Metallica every provide such a useful guide to Indian food?


In the real or imagined world of romantic dinners for two, your dream-babe companion sits opposite and inquires as to your preference for onion bhajee or, perhaps, the prawn puree. Option anxiety mingled with tummy-terror fills your muddled head.

O.K., curry babes-and-buddies, help is forthcoming.

We all know a good chicken when we run over it, or merely pluck it insensitively from the dutiful Sunday barbecue.

We may have experienced a King Prawn or two in our maritime excesses and might fancy we know of the health advantage to be gained from a windy pulse, fiber-endowed veggie or plain staple rice.

Take your seat for dinner: napkin politely on knee and pretended perusal of the wine list. First, play for time. Sit back, look confident and ascertain from the waiter if there is an imported and suitably chilled Indian lager beer to be found in the house. This should be a Lal Toofal, Cobra, Taj Mahal, or, best of all (but not if brewed under license in the UK) the Kingfisher.

Otherwise, it may be prudent to stall a little longer with the Bud, Harp, Millers Lite or whatever passes for a slurpy sip. Or maybe just passes......

First of all: meat, fish or vegetable as a main course? Let's get the big and scary bit out of the way. Dry or in a sauce? Spicy-hot or mild and creamy?

The great thing about Indian cuisine is the availability of vegetarian options. Lentils, greens, roots and branches, are all conjured up to please, titillate and satisfy. Perhaps in the form of an integrated and complete Vegetarian Thali, attractively served in a "silver" dish of that name, the chance to sample several small vegetable portions will be found. No longer the poor cousin of the carnivorous night-out nibbler, you may indulge yourself with glee, ghee (purified butter) and total satisfaction in your descent to the ultimate in Vegan gluttony. Whoops, forgot about the butter......

A BASIC, QUICK GUIDE

Let's first consider the mild: Korma, Passanda and Muglai are the words to watch for. Liberal in their creamy mildness, these dishes, from different areas of the Indian sub-continent, will be face and bowel-savers when the chips are down.

For those who favour the dryer, purer and not-too-hot taste of the source meat or fish, try the Tikka or Tandoori versions.

Really spicy hot stuff will be tackled head-on in the Madras or Vindaloo variations on the theme. Brave but occasionally foolish forkers, like me, will feel compelled to go for the Phal or Tindaloo, those macho show-off botty-crippling dishes which we become strangely ever-addicted to. Nothing disrupts a band sound-check like the pervasive after-effects of the Tarka Dhal (lentils and garlic).


 
Hugo Zorilla 2009-02-07 05:57:18 PM  
Gulper Eel: Yes, but did Metallica every provide such a useful guide to Indian food?

No, they were too busy getting screwed over to concern themselves with being food critics.

 
Malicoire_ 2009-02-07 07:10:22 PM  
If you think that Tull doesn't belong in the metal category, then you haven't listened to enough Tull.

You could go around and cherry pick bad examples but their catalog is filled with real metal, before there was even such a thing.

Locomotive Breath? Farkin, eh.

 
Uncontrolled_Jibe 2009-02-07 07:23:07 PM  
Jethro Tull wrote the book Metallica read. They brought harmonies and textures to hard rock that even Led Zep didn't do. The best trick Metallica can muster is a handful of arpeggios to start half the catalog.

/Cliff Burton is the most over-rated over-hyped nothing that's ever been in the business.

//You want it hard, then Motorhead and MC5

 
Tyrub 2009-02-07 10:03:23 PM  
KingGeegers:
How about Starland Vocal Band over Boston for Best New Artist in 1977, Marvin Hamlisch over Bad Company in 1975, or Debbie Boone over Foreigner in 1978.

Agreed .... I was 13 when Starland Vocal Band won in 1977, and I have never watched the Grammy's again !!!!!

 
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