there's still a hole in the boat.

burndtdan: there's still a hole in the boat.

True, but throwing the furniture overboard is the necessary first step that frees up the space to work on patching it without distraction. The RNC's operations folks got complacent after 2004. They've needed to go for a long time.

Actually, down here in the trenches, we like Steele and applaude this move. I regularly interact with my state party and the national party and the National GOP was, well, a bunchofdicks.

Not a terrible idea.

KaponoFor3: Not a terrible idea.

I saw something on TV once about a group of schoolkids who figured out how to get everyone off of he Titanic safely. The first step was actually throwing all the deck chairs and other wooden items overboard.

MasterThief: burndtdan: there's still a hole in the boat.

True, but throwing the furniture overboard is the necessary first step that frees up the space to work on patching it without distraction. The RNC's operations folks got complacent after 2004. They've needed to go for a long time.

the hole in the boat is their socially regressive stance on most issues and faithfulness to economic ideas that have been tried and failed. based on steele's words in the past, he doesn't seem intent on patching those holes. he seems more intent on how to sell the broken boat better.

Chindit: Actually, down here in the trenches, we like Steele and applaude this move. I regularly interact with my state party and the national party and the National GOP was, well, a bunchofdicks.

Dicks? In the Republican party? The hell you say.

burndtdan: the hole in the boat is their socially regressive stance on most issues and faithfulness to economic ideas that have been tried and failed.

Such as?

MasterThief: burndtdan: the hole in the boat is their socially regressive stance on most issues and faithfulness to economic ideas that have been tried and failed.

Such as?

Well, economically, he is wrong, but socially, I'd say abortion and equality for gays.

MasterThief: Such as?

Um...do you not know the GOP party platform or are you playing dense today?

gustakooka: MasterThief: burndtdan: the hole in the boat is their socially regressive stance on most issues and faithfulness to economic ideas that have been tried and failed.

Such as?

Well, economically, he is wrong, but socially, I'd say abortion and equality for gays.

they're still pushing business tax cuts for the cure-all for our economic woes, even though they have a very clear history of exacerbating the problems instead of fixing them.

they still generally support market deregulation, even though it is becoming more and more obvious every day the problems that it caused.

these are failed economic theories; i don't say that because of ideology, i say that because of clear, observable results from their implementation. and that's just to name a few.

Chindit: Actually, down here in the trenches, we like Steele and applaude this move. I regularly interact with my state party and the national party and the National GOP was, well, a bunchofdicks.

Assuming you're actually conservative, how does it feel to know that your party sold you up the river in order to pander to a bunch of bible-thumpers and xenophobes?

burndtdan: they're still pushing business tax cuts for the cure-all for our economic woes, even though they have a very clear history of exacerbating the problems instead of fixing them.

You are right. This is wrong. But it does not totally encapsulate the entirety of republican economic theory, though it is big part of it, and any saying "just tax cuts" now is retarded

burndtdan: they still generally support market deregulation, even though it is becoming more and more obvious every day the problems that it caused.

This is a terrible oversimplification of what occurred.

Chindit: Actually, down here in the trenches, we like Steele and applaude this move. I regularly interact with my state party and the national party and the National GOP was, well, a bunchofdicks.

You like a guy who, despite being a former Lieutenant Governor of the state of Maryland, has said that government has never created a job for anyone? You can have him. That is aside from the fact that his appointment could not be any more obvious of a "Hey, we got a black guy too!" move.

burndtdan: he seems more intent on how to sell the broken boat better.

to be fair, i believe that is the only real job of the party chairman. they don't lead policy they lead marketing (please correct me if i'm wrong).

gustakooka: But it does not totally encapsulate the entirety of republican economic theory, though it is big part of it, and any saying "just tax cuts" now is retarded

Find me a Republican in the House who is calling for anything but a bill of pure tax cuts and get back to me. This also applies for most of the Senate.

This is a terrible oversimplification of what occurred.

This crisis could NOT have happened without the deregulation that was trumpeted by the Republicans as a solution to a better economy.

GAT_00: Find me a Republican in the House who is calling for anything but a bill of pure tax cuts and get back to me. This also applies for most of the Senate.

I thought it was only the far-right nutjobs calling for everything in tax cut form. I was under the impression that both parties would've put together a stimulus package that was a combination of spending and tax cuts with the majority being different based on who was in charge.

Of course, I could be wrong.

GAT_00: Find me a Republican in the House who is calling for anything but a bill of pure tax cuts and get back to me. This also applies for most of the Senate.

Susan Collins, ME

Link

FTW

gustakooka: Susan Collins, ME

I asked for one from the House. I know there are a couple of progressive Republicans in the Senate. Find one in the House.

bulldg4life: I thought it was only the far-right nutjobs calling for everything in tax cut form. I was under the impression that both parties would've put together a stimulus package that was a combination of spending and tax cuts with the majority being different based on who was in charge.

Of course, I could be wrong.

The Republicans in the House put together their own stimulus bill that failed. It was nothing but tax cuts.

I hope he hid the Oreos before he did that.

Some of my best friends are black conservatives.

FTFA Still, the staffer added, "It is starting to feel like the Steele-your-job administration."

Irony Tag out to lunch?

Awesome move Gop. You keep on believing your electoral problems are due to personnel and not philosophy.

Did anyone call him the house negro yet?

At this point, they should just blow another hole into the GOP boat to sink it faster and start building a new one from scratch. If your building is on the verge of collapse, perhaps putting up new drapes will not solve the problem.

/Or nuke it from orbit.

PEW PEW PEW

Blathering Idjut: Awesome move Gop. You keep on believing your electoral problems are due to personnel and not philosophy.

few people under 40 probably want the government legislating morality, that's going to be a huge problem for them for a while...

I just think it's hilarious that the Republican Party chose a man with the name that sounds like "steel" to change the image of his party.

mostly because Сталин (Stalin) is derived from combining the Russian сталь ("stal", meaning steel), with the possessive suffix -ин (-in), a formula used by many other Bolsheviks, including Lenin.

Look who isn't learning from history's lessons!

bulldg4life: MasterThief: Such as?

Um...do you not know the GOP party platform or are you playing dense today?

Um...do you not know his MO or are you...well, you get where this is going.

vonster: Did anyone call him the house negro yet?

But he was never in the House, he was LG of Maryland!

Oh, wait. I see.

RON PAUL

/not really

Jackpot777: I just think it's hilarious that the Republican Party chose a man with the name that sounds like "steel" to change the image of his party.

You don't get out much, do you?

The Icelander: KaponoFor3: Not a terrible idea.

I saw something on TV once about a group of schoolkids who figured out how to get everyone off of he Titanic safely. The first step was actually throwing all the deck chairs and other wooden items overboard.

Really? I figured the first step was to build the the thing with a rudder big enough to actually steer the ship. Step two, of course, is for the captain to actually heed the iceberg warnings rathern than just chuckle drunkenly about making the crossing in record time.

The iceberg already cut a hole in the box...

Still, the staffer added, "It is starting to feel like the Steele-your-job administration."
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Wow. That's a pretty lame pun.

/hopslinked

Oh, and this.

"Hey guys, we heard you like women and blacks so we got some chick for VP and some black guy to run the party."

Jackpot777: I just think it's hilarious that the Republican Party chose a man with the name that sounds like "steel" to change the image of his party.

mostly because Сталин (Stalin) is derived from combining the Russian сталь ("stal", meaning steel), with the possessive suffix -ин (-in), a formula used by many other Bolsheviks, including Lenin.

Look who isn't learning from history's lessons!

Not at all. They picked him because he's black. It's that simple. It's painfully obvious.

I can just imagine it now...

"Golly gee Billy-Ray, 'Merca sure seems to love that negra. Les git us one."

GAT_00: gustakooka: Susan Collins, ME

I asked for one from the House. I know there are a couple of progressive Republicans in the Senate. Find one in the House.

Eric Cantor. Link

The money quote: "Asked by the Huffington Post what spending provisions Republicans would support, Cantor said, "I think that if you have infrastructure programs that are meaningful, impactful, and put jobs back into place immediately within the first twelve months, you have a legitimate case for that to be a stimulus."

MacEnvy: vonster: Did anyone call him the house negro yet?

But he was never in the House, he was LG of Maryland!

Oh, wait. I see.

Most of us in Maryland (at the time) called him Lt. Gov Token.

soy_bomb: Jackpot777: I just think it's hilarious that the Republican Party chose a man with the name that sounds like "steel" to change the image of his party.

You don't get out much, do you?

Butt hurt much?

Only another 3 years 11 months and 1 week to go. You can be a brave little soldier for me and handle that, can't you?

Having been to the Titanic Museum in Branson, MO, yes Branson,MO don't ask why I was there or why the museum is there. Im getting a kick out of these replies

GAT_00: That is aside from the fact that his appointment could not be any more obvious of a "Hey, we got a black guy too!" move.

Do you know the difference between black Republicans and black Democrats ?

Black Republicans are selected.
Black Democrats are elected.

Bobo_Spiewack: MacEnvy: vonster: Did anyone call him the house negro yet?

But he was never in the House, he was LG of Maryland!

Oh, wait. I see.

Most of us in Maryland (at the time) called him Lt. Gov Token.

I LOL'd.



Token didn't.

Jackpot777: Butt hurt much?

Nope, I'm a top.

Only another 3 years 11 months and 1 week to go. You can be a brave little soldier for me and handle that, can't you?

Given the first two weeks, it's going to be a fun time watching Obama flounder over and over and over again. Lobbyists, tax cheats, oh my!

The new face of the republican party. I give him 4 months.

And by new face I mean the same exact platform they previously farked up.

Wait wait wait... Really?

I was just posting earlier today about how fed up I am with my party. This, well, this makes me want to know where he's going with this.

But I remember him with his "drill baby drill" at the RNC last year, which I have mocked derisively this very day - so I'm not dancing in my seat just yet.

NeverDrunk23: At this point, they should just blow another hole into the GOP boat to sink it faster and start building a new one from scratch. If your building is on the verge of collapse, perhaps putting up new drapes will not solve the problem.

Better idea: Get the people off the boat who don't hate
- Gays
- Single mothers
- People who live in cities
- Intelligence
- Non-whites
- Non-Christians
- Non-Americans

And then let it sink. Then maybe, just maybe, a conservative party will stand a chance in this county again.

Jackpot777: I just think it's hilarious that the Republican Party chose a man with the name that sounds like "steel" to change the image of his party.

mostly because Сталин (Stalin) is derived from combining the Russian сталь ("stal", meaning steel), with the possessive suffix -ин (-in), a formula used by many other Bolsheviks, including Lenin.

Look who isn't learning from history's lessons!

Well, I'm fairly sure he's not going to shoot the entire RNC staff -- or send them to work in a salt mine. They got that going for them.