You neglected one important point, subby:
Bending over and spreading them on the advice of the Democrats isn't what's best for the nation, no matter what Daily POS claims.

a) horrible analogy, the guy is an idiot
b) horrible strategy anyways

when you find yourself talking about how great the taliban is, it's time to re-evaluate your life.

"This crusade, this war on terrorism is gonna take awhile. And the American people must be patient. I'm gonna be patient," Bush said
...And my friends in the Military Industrial Complex, oil and gas industries and world banking, will be patient too, Bush could've added

The neocons have been compared with the Taliban for years before this issue ever came up.

ndotseth: You neglected one important point, subby:
Bending over and spreading them on the advice of the Democrats isn't what's best for the nation, no matter what Daily POS claims.

Therefore, the obvious way to try to get your opinion heard, and reshape the stimulus bill in a way which you think is best for the country, is to compare yourself to the Taliban.

I'm a Democrat, but I agree more with the Republican ideas on the stimulus bill. If you think that this idiot is helping the cause, well, you're even more of an idiot than I thought you were.

ndotseth: You neglected one important point, subby:
Bending over and spreading them on the advice of the Democrats isn't what's best for the nation, no matter what Daily POS claims.

And you are what's wrong with America, and why I hope and pray every night the Republican party burns and dies. Immediately to the partisanship; there's nothing else for you, is there?

Jesus Christ, I found out one of my friends' today has started indoctrinating her two-year old into hating Democrats; and I'm sure the same thing happens the other way around, too. What the fark?

I know you're just a no-nothing troll, but seriously.

Some KOS blogs are coherent.

That one was muttering crazy guy outside the subway entrance.

ndotseth: You neglected one important point, subby:
Bending over and spreading them on the advice of the Democrats isn't what's best for the nation, no matter what Daily POS claims.

What is with your obsession with gay sex?

I for one am not surprised at this revelation. The GOP for a long time has been nothing but a knee jerk reaction to whatever the democrats propose. They have no new ideas, still clinging to the failed ones and the only time they show a pulse is whenever Sam the plumber or the Wasilla hillbilly palls around with them. They take pride in being against science, intellectual reasoning, and pragmatic ideas.

If your leader is a fat radio jock, you pretty much have to co-opt terrorist tactics of fear and propaganda to sustain your agenda.

Mordant: The neocons have been compared with the Taliban for years before this issue ever came up.

Sgt Otter: What is with your obsession with gay sex?

It's part of the process the GOP uses to get more converts^.

At first, I was going to complain about how the left wingnut at Kos was giving the rest of us a bad name, but then I saw that it was someone in the GOP making the comparison and all I can do is shake my head in awe.



/Link hotter than your sister

Sgt Otter: What is with your obsession with gay sex?

He's a Republican. SOP.

Sgt Otter: Mordant: The neocons have been compared with the Taliban for years before this issue ever came up.

Is there supposed to be Taliban in that picture? If so, which ones? I just see some Pushtuns.

Any serious Republicans want to defend this? You claimed that preventing legislation while you were in the majority was equivalent to treason. Why isn't it treason when you do it? How about we start locking up Republicans so can you follow your own rules?

GAT_00: Why isn't it treason when you do it?

Have you learned nothing from reading FARK for all these years?

It's only treason when you oppose Republican presidents. It's patriotism when you adopt whatever dirt-sucking nastiness you have to in order to oppose a Democrat Party President.

Get with the got-damn program. Commie.

unlikely: Get with the got-damn program. Commie.

Heh. Now, I should say that I don't actually want to throw Republicans in jail. Most of the time I don't at least, I get pissed off at some of you some times, but I really do want to start making the GOP play by the rules they made up over the last 8 years.

The GOP is betting on a massive Obama fail. Then they think they will swing back into power in the House and Senate.

Keep it up GOP. You're hurting yourselves and making me laugh at the same time.

Those Republicans are pretty weird.

What was with that dude from Iowa with the big blow-up of Bill Murray from Groundhog Day?

Way to get your point across...

whidbey: Those Republicans are pretty weird.

What was with that dude from Iowa with the big blow-up of Bill Murray from Groundhog Day?

Way to get your point across...

It was probably the last movie he saw in theaters

muck4doo: Sgt Otter: Mordant: The neocons have been compared with the Taliban for years before this issue ever came up.

Is there supposed to be Taliban in that picture? If so, which ones? I just see some Pushtuns.


Reagan did meet with them and called them "freedom fighters" and compared them to America's founding fathers.

Pic extraneous.

"Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

"Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban," Sessions said during a meeting with Hotline editors. "And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban. No, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about [sic] is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with."

Is that even English?

FTFA: "The Taliban, who have as part of their mission wiping out anyone who doesn't agree with their racist, bigoted religious views."

While I don't agree with most of the rest of the writer's opinions, this one is incontrovertible.

We saw this in SoCal with the big Prop8 fight as the Mormons, along with other fundamentalist groups, attacked gay marriage with a zealotry they normally save for abortion clinics.

We see this in the film "Jesus Camp" as the horrible woman running the camp indoctrinates those unsuspecting children with brainwashing techniques that make them hate everyone different from them.

I see this in my own family - they live in Colorado Springs and go to Ted Haggard's former megachurch.

And we saw this in the last administration as Faith-Based Initiatives took center stage, practically establishing a state religion even while that same religion claimed some sort of backassward martyrdom.

All of these Fundamentalist groups make it their mission to eradicate other religions including different sects of their own religions just because they say that you can backslide or have to be baptized to have faith, or establish some other niche tenant to make themselves more pious while firmly establishing themselves as cult-like as possible while still keeping their tax-exempt status.

These Republicans are of that mindset. Is it any wonder they have no problem trying to control the message with lies and distortions? Is it any wonder they see eye to eye with their Most Hated Enemy?

They always say you hate the things in others that you hate in yourself. I think that goes a long way to explaining the last 8 years.

SO, eight years of "War on Terror" and all we've done is teach terrorist techniques to the religious conservative nutjobs in this country.

Dude. I told you so!

/Don't blame me now that the attacks start to come (more frequently) from withing instead of without.
//Was always more worried about home-grown terrorists than "Arabs".

I would explain what this guy meant by these comments, but I have no idea, it's incomprehensible. By contrast, when the Kos writer failed to understand the meaning of the words, they made up some shiat about republicans endorsing taliban tactics.

Does that mean we should use counter-insurgency tactics to fight them?

I think this is simply a ploy by the republicans to get some government-funded BDSM.

Pervs.

ndotseth: You neglected one important point, subby: Bending over and spreading them on the advice of the Democrats isn't what's best for the nation, no matter what Daily POS claims.

But they're doing that already. All we're saying is that they should take it out of the bathroom stalls and church confessionals and do it out in the open, for the amusement of everyone.

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: Reagan did meet with them and called them "freedom fighters" and compared them to America's founding fathers.

Pic extraneous.

The Taliban and the Mujahideen are non synonymous. The Taliban was a small subgroup of the larger group of Muj who fought against the Russians. They just happened to be the small subgroup who was eventually victorious in the civil war that occurred after the Russians left.

Comparing Reagan's political alignment with the Muj to a alignment with the Taliban is therefore dishonest, and neglects the fact that our involvement in the Russian-Afghan conflict was spearheaded by the Democratic congress. Reagan actually preferred fighting against the commies in Central America, so much so that he violated federal law in the Iran-Contra scandal to do so.

GAT_00: Any serious Republicans want to defend this? You claimed that preventing legislation while you were in the majority was equivalent to treason. Why isn't it treason when you do it? How about we start locking up Republicans so can you follow your own rules?

"Come now, Mr. Dickinson. Rebellion is always legal in the first person, such as "our rebellion". It is only in the third person, "their rebellion", that it is illegal."

/Nothing is obscure on FARK

Darconix: You DON'T need us, libs.

Hey, now.

Those fries aren't going to offer themselves with that.

Darconix: I don't understand why the libs are so upset. They have farking majorities in both houses, they've got their President in the White House. You DON'T need us, libs. And we aren't going to be saddled by your farkup of a stimulus bill.

Just get to farking up the country already.

The country's already farked up dipshiat. That was your kick at the can. Now STFU and let the adults run things for awhile.

Well, Kos went full retard with that one.

GAT_00: Any serious Republicans want to defend this? You claimed that preventing legislation while you were in the majority was equivalent to treason. Why isn't it treason when you do it? How about we start locking up Republicans so can you follow your own rules?

And wasn't it just a few months ago that liberals were saying dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Boy, things sure get flipped around for both sides fast, don't they.

Look at it more like Iraq, where insurgents (you know, those Micheal Moore trumpeted as freedom fighters) resisted "unjust" American occupation.

This is just Repubs resisting "unjust" Dem occupation.

Does using past liberal B.S. make this more acceptable to you?

Repubs can either 1) do nothing, and let the Dem majority pass their legislation, and let Dems take credit for "success" (or more likely blame when it fails, or 2) actively oppose it either overtly and/or covertly, or 3) bend over and do whatever Pelosi and Obama demand ("Dem defined bipartisanship") or 4) find real bi-partisan middle ground on bills they remotely agree with.

Ultimately, as Obama and Pelosi reminded us , they "won", so with majorities, they don't need Repubs to save the world. So get to savin'. They certainly won't share credit for any success, so why ask Repubs to share blame (bi-partisanship) when it tanks.

Time for Dems to be leaders, and not the backseat drivers they've been for 6-8 years. And prepared to own their success (or likely failure) as all their own.

Darconix: Don't sit back and whine about how the Republicans aren't going to hang your albatross of Congressional FAIL around their necks too.

Oh boy, this. Change we can believe in: biggest spending bill ever in the history of the world. One spending bill equivalent to India's GDP.

Only bill that even comes close is the one only a few months ago pushed by the Bush administration. Our politicians are totally out of control.

radioshack: And wasn't it just a few months ago that liberals were saying dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Boy, things sure get flipped around for both sides fast, don't they.

You are aware of the difference between pointing out hypocrisy (e.g. indicating that a person once claimed that what they are doing now is tantamount to treason) and actually calling for the arrest of people doing that very thing, right?

Darconix: In other words, libs, farking run things already.

We are. And you don't like it one bit.

What is going to be really entertaining is when these programs begin to work and you have to spin it with claims that this fiscal miracle was actually the work of George Bush and the Republican minority in Congress.

And we'll laugh and laugh...

radioshack: Darconix: Don't sit back and whine about how the Republicans aren't going to hang your albatross of Congressional FAIL around their necks too.

Oh boy, this. Change we can believe in: biggest spending bill ever in the history of the world. One spending bill equivalent to India's GDP.

Only bill that even comes close is the one only a few months ago pushed by the Bush administration. Our politicians are totally out of control.

Why are you even concerned? After all, you have no solutions for the mess "your team" created nor do you seem to have even a cursory understanding of how the economy works.

Nice job, by the way, if you guys hadn't screwed up so thoroughly, we wouldn't have these lunatics running the show, now would we?

mcwebe0: radioshack: And wasn't it just a few months ago that liberals were saying dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Boy, things sure get flipped around for both sides fast, don't they.

You are aware of the difference between pointing out hypocrisy (e.g. indicating that a person once claimed that what they are doing now is tantamount to treason) and actually calling for the arrest of people doing that very thing, right?

Actually, you are also aware of the difference between a "real" argument (dissent) and pure contradiction (simply opposing something because another favors it), right? For examples of the latter, see the "Argument Clinic" sketch from MP's Flying Circus or current GOP strategy sessions. For the former, check out the story of John Dickinson of Pennsylvania, one of signers of the Constitution, or more recently look to Ron Paul and Denni Kucinich.

Sgt Otter: ndotseth: You neglected one important point, subby:
Bending over and spreading them on the advice of the Democrats isn't what's best for the nation, no matter what Daily POS claims.

What is with your obsession with gay sex?

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: muck4doo: Sgt Otter: Mordant: The neocons have been compared with the Taliban for years before this issue ever came up.

Is there supposed to be Taliban in that picture? If so, which ones? I just see some Pushtuns.


Reagan did meet with them and called them "freedom fighters" and compared them to America's founding fathers.

Pic extraneous.

Rambo III, when released (with lots of heroic Afghan warrior types)



Blu-ray release, with cover art devoid of any bearded mountain men.

Obama ran on the neocon theory: Two Santa Claus' Theory ...

enjoy

radioshack: GAT_00: Any serious Republicans want to defend this? You claimed that preventing legislation while you were in the majority was equivalent to treason. Why isn't it treason when you do it? How about we start locking up Republicans so can you follow your own rules?

And wasn't it just a few months ago that liberals were saying dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Boy, things sure get flipped around for both sides fast, don't they.

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I'm sorry, WHO flipped? Because I can show you a double-flip with pike...

"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it."
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo."
-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99

"I don't know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag"
-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

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Oh, for the record? Milosevic DID raise the white flag, and we had ZERO combat deaths in Kosovo because we DID have a plan, George. So the Republicans were right in one regard... for their image, it was worse for them than 'Nam.

radioshack: And wasn't it just a few months ago that liberals were saying dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Boy, things sure get flipped around for both sides fast, don't they.

When the opposition is proudly comparing themselves to insurgents, it ain't exactly treason but it's a bit beyond dissent.

I guess Sneaky Pete will have to cancel the parties in Vegas, the Taliban would never stand for that!

The taliban are probably using Saul Alinsky, which is pretty much the defacto model for Daily Kos. So a Platoistic argument would follow that the Repubs are using Daily Kos tactics.

I don't know why some dunce liberal who thinks he can write another long winded post like some tattle tale on a non-issue merits a subby link.

Go to daily Kos, read the posts and once your done cleaning up with the mind bleach, realize this is the most retarded of all the far left websites.

Disinformation personified.

I would answer that, but I will have to check with my preacher first....

I wonder if pulling up opponents yards signs in the middle of the night counts as a Taliban tactic?...would have worked, too, if not far that nosy minority female Dallas cop....