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(BBC) Obvious Anti-war demonstrators in switzerland get into a street battle with the police, throwing snowballs   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 61
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Skwidd 2003-01-26 09:55:47 AM  
A snowball fight? Actually, that sounds like a lot more fun than a protest.

OTOH, the Eurinal 'leadership' are "keen to have the inspections go on for a few more months." And a few months after that, and a few months after that, etc.

 
paradroid 2003-01-26 05:22:38 PM  
What, like you're worried Saddam's going to suddenly blow up Chicago next week with one of those rusted widgets while the inspectors are buzzing around?

"Relax, fella." -- Saddam on South Park

 
Double_Zero 2003-01-26 05:22:50 PM  
Snowballs? what no rocks and beer bottles?

 
whydontyoucryaboutit 2003-01-26 05:24:14 PM  
Why do the swiss care? they're neutral, im sure

 
The Dude 2003-01-26 05:24:33 PM  
Snowballs vs. Rubber bullets, firehoses and battons

That's almost as unfair as Iraq vs. USA

 
Outlaw2097 2003-01-26 05:24:47 PM  
At least the cops are American...because they would have started shooting because "they feared for their lives"

 
Path2k2 2003-01-26 05:26:58 PM  
what exactly is "obvious" about this article? whoever keeps mislabeling stories needs to take out a .45 and put it to their temple.

 
ARColeslaw 2003-01-26 05:29:38 PM  
The link doesn't even go to the right article anyway! What a waste of sperm the submitter is!

 
Anti_Freak_Machine [TotalFark] 2003-01-26 05:31:24 PM  
Those wacky swiss. Go back to making me cocoa.

 
CB 2003-01-26 05:31:49 PM  
I give this article a masturbation difficulty rating of 10.

 
InternetSecurityGuard 2003-01-26 05:31:59 PM  
Nice try. Is the link wrong? Or is the poster counting on people not actually reading the article?

 
BobTheBuilder 2003-01-26 05:34:41 PM  
I find it to be remarkably odd how willing foreigners are to gamble with the lives of Americans. farking tree huggers.

 
McBotulism 2003-01-26 05:35:12 PM  
Reminds me of when they show Palestinian children hurling rocks at Israeli tanks on CNN. Yeah, that'll show 'em. Of course, these are people who are more than willing to bomb themselves...

 
JQPublic [TotalFark] 2003-01-26 05:36:34 PM  
Hippie: I would rather spend the next few months in a cozy Swiss jail, than actually be in an icky desert, so I'll just stir up trouble in a predominately white European nation that I hold so dear, until they arrest me, then I'll play the political prisoner card.

 
crazyjim 2003-01-26 05:37:02 PM  
Powell is da man, but I think he's getting pressured from all sides now. Back when he said,"Instead of giving countries our tax dollars, lets just open trade with them.", I liked the guy. Pisses me off to no end the United States gives money to other countries when you have so many problems at home.

 
moldy milk 2003-01-26 05:40:02 PM  
bobthebuilder
. . what the fark are you talking about.

 
mikemir 2003-01-26 05:41:36 PM  
I think I've read that article 14 times now over the past few weeks. Different authors, of course...

 
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pmrials 2003-01-26 05:46:24 PM  
Switzerland is a proper noun and therefore always capitalized.

/topic grammar nazi

 
ScottishCherokee 2003-01-26 05:46:49 PM  
Mikemir...

You're right...same thing, different day.

It's too bad that whenever people protest against this war, people make comments like "JQPublic". Remind me...what did we fight for in WWII? What has always been said it fought for by soldiers? What's that? Freedom?? Hmmmmm...I can remember something about The Bill of Rights and the First Amendment.....but if another country does it, DAMN THEM.

 
doccm9 2003-01-26 05:47:25 PM  
Better than rocks and bottles i guess.

 
doccm9 2003-01-26 05:48:53 PM  
Yellow snow balls.

 
seawana 2003-01-26 05:49:08 PM  
Oh the irony.

 
Frankee-Frank-Frank 2003-01-26 05:50:59 PM  
Word.

 
doccm9 2003-01-26 05:52:33 PM  
dead thread.

 
HowlingFrog [TotalFark] 2003-01-26 05:54:30 PM  
w00t.

 
Monophtalmos 2003-01-26 05:55:44 PM  
What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or was he just born with a heartr full of neutrality?

 
Suho1004 2003-01-26 05:56:21 PM  
Well, since this apparently doesn't even go to the right article...

Raiders.

 
McBotulism 2003-01-26 05:58:17 PM  
KABOOM!!

 
dotderf 2003-01-26 06:06:11 PM  
This article is more ironic than anything.

 
clevershark 2003-01-26 06:09:34 PM  
Let's face it, the Eurinal nations (thanks Skwidd!) are, with the exception of the UK, dead set on biatching against US policy. Even if Saddam were to nuke Israel repeatedly those p*ssies would be against the US going to Irak.

 
JQPublic [TotalFark] 2003-01-26 06:15:24 PM  
Superbowl picks

Raiders 28, Buccaneers 20


...and if wrong, hey I'm NOT claiming to have psychic powers. Maybe that crossing over guy knows something, and he ain't tellin'!

 
variable 2003-01-26 06:16:01 PM  
snowball war? these farkin hypocrites! why dont these mean-spirited hate-mongering snow-tossin rabble-rousers GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!!!!

NO (snowball) WAR

 
elmixtli [TotalFark] 2003-01-26 06:17:13 PM  


isn't this a great pic? I love the grin on Sadam's face on the mural.

 
notoriousjjp 2003-01-26 06:26:11 PM  
Just by a show of hands how many Farkers here have fought in a war? Just what I thought; not too many. I suggest an amenable solution to those who want to go to war with Iraq and those who don't: Those who do, march right down to your local military recruiters, demand front line action when the war begins and thus turn your polemical chickenhawk views into something a little more useful.

For the rest of us who would rather see rational solutions to Middle Eastern problems, the decided absence of those willing to put soldiers in harms way whilst sitting watching the same individuals fight on CNN would be a definite relief. A relief which nevertheless is unlikely to happen because like most of the chickenhawks here on Fark, none of them have the spine to truly get out there and do what they consider the right thing to do.

But I find it decidedly convenient to say that individuals, organizations and nations that have the moral bravado to demand realistic and rational solutions rather than fallowing the decidedly irrational plans of war should be labeled as mere p*ussies. It takes more courage to stand up and assert political solutions than it does to engage in gunship diplomacy.

/end flamebait

 
Daraymann [TotalFark] 2003-01-26 06:29:46 PM  
Who cares what the Swiss think? There hot chocolate sucks.

 
clevershark 2003-01-26 06:31:20 PM  
Notoriousjjp -- that's about as good an argument as "if you don't like America get the heck out".

 
jwrebholz 2003-01-26 06:38:05 PM  
Consider that some of us CAN'T go out and fight.

It's called Restricted 4F. Medically Unfit for Duty. If you get labeled this, the armed forces won't even take you as a pencil-pusher. And that's where I am. (eyes are too bad)

I have the utmost respect for our soldiers, for anyone willing to stand up and fight for what they believe in. People of this nature are not to be trifled with.

I have the utmost contempt, though, for supposed "armchair generals"..the nosy noisy know-it-all morons who think they know more about tactics than Patton, Nimitz and Schwartzkopf combined. All you arseholes can go suck a lemon.

Do I like to see war? No. Do I want to see people get killed? Generally, no. Do I like the fact that the President is putting hundreds of thousands of people in harm's way, some of whom are my co-workers? No I don't. But is it their job? Yes. Do they know the risks involved? Yes. Have they accepted those risks? Yes. And are they still willing to follow their orders, knowing that they might not come back? yes.

I also find peace protesters getting into a fight ironic.

 
clevershark 2003-01-26 06:43:41 PM  
The ironic thing about war is that it is, inevitably, fought by people who simply do not have the life experience that would give them much of an idea whether the engagement they are fighting in is just or not.

I suggest that this is no coincidence at all.

 
IvanTheRed 2003-01-26 07:00:26 PM  
ok Jwrebholz,

I'll give you Patton and Nimitz, but Swarztkopf? Inform me what tactics were necesarry to accept millions of Iraqi prisoners?

 
pkat 2003-01-26 07:03:48 PM  
Notoriousjjp

The nations that are desperatly trying to solve this issue are being beaten up and protested by communist organized peace pussies. Nations like Germany are desperatly trying to cover up the fact that the half dozen or so missing cyclotrons being used to refine Uranium in Iraq say "Made in Frankfurt" when you turn them over. France and Russia? Saddam owes both countries tons of money and they are desperatly doing everything they can to protect that investment. Besides, France's idea of social protest is throwing rocks at Jewish school children, not someone who'll throw them back.

Have I served in armed conflict? Yeah, a couple as a matter of fact. Meritoriously. Am I proud of that fact? No, because thanks to that coward William Blythe Jefferson Clinton and his gutless bullshiat in Bosnia, I am now officially the same kind of baby killer he didn't have the balls to become 30 years earlier. Do I think we have any right to attack Iraq? Oh yes. Bigtime.

If you liberal whiners were as interested in peace as you say you are you just might bother to find out what the hell you're protesting. Because if you did, if you bothered to find out for yourself things like Saddam's role in the 1995 Okalahoma City bombing, or maybe how he's unleased professional rapists against the women of his country, or maybe the extent of chemical and biological warfare agents unaccounted for (measured in the TONS), or the numbers of his own people he's gassed, or the numbers of his own people he's starved or just plain disappeared you'd get off your self-righteous fat asses and direct your misinformed anger in the right direction. Instead you ignore the truth and spout the platitudes that the IWW and ANSWER (Both Stalinist organizations) have programed you to repeat without thinking.

 
jwrebholz 2003-01-26 07:14:38 PM  
IvanTheRed: Well, it was the only other big military name I could think of at the time who's played a part in recent military history.

 
mstrmind 2003-01-26 07:21:19 PM  
"I hope they do not use water cannon," Mr Klyn said, quite straight faced. "The water is so cold here."
says some guy in another article...

 
clevershark 2003-01-26 07:32:07 PM  
Something we're overlooking is that none of the military geniuses of our time had any real strategic experience before being involved in the conflicts for which they became famous. The one exception to this rule was Douglas MacArthur, who ran the Pacific stage of WWII and Korea.

He was promptly fired by Truman over his recommendations of the course of action to take to end the Korean conflict.

 
HorribleHarry 2003-01-26 08:43:50 PM  
Clevershark,
MacArthur was fired because he dared to openly criticise Truman, the Commander in Chief. Much as I love Mac, I have to agree with Truman's decision. MacArthur was treading dangerous ground by trying to subvert the non-political doctrine that the US military operated and continues to operate on. Only "retired" generals are allowed the luxury of politics. In the end, Mac got it all straightened out again when he made his "Duty, Honor, Country" speech at West Point.

As for the Swiss? By my way of reckoning, neutrality forbids taking sides. Perhaps Saddam has a sinister Iraqi-Swiss pact goin on and the trade embargo prevents him from arming his new found allies in the Axis of Evil. Word was Saddam instructed them to use what was at hand...Hence Snowballs!


Horrible Harry
Combat Vet and Damn Proud of it!
82nd Airborne Division

 
Scrotar 2003-01-26 09:08:47 PM  
"Just by a show of hands how many Farkers here have fought in a war? Just what I thought; not too many. I suggest an amenable solution to those who want to go to war with Iraq and those who don't: Those who do, march right down to your local military recruiters, demand front line action when the war begins and thus turn your polemical chickenhawk views into something a little more useful."

It's kinda like, "America: love it or leave it!", but long winded and more to the left.

 
Shut........UP 2003-01-26 10:28:18 PM  
They want peace and they're ready to kick ass to prove it.

 
HorribleHarry 2003-01-26 10:50:15 PM  
Naw the left is more than happy to cut military budgets then send in troops on ill conceived so called "peace keeping" missions without proper support. (Somalia cough cough)

9/11 and its aftermath are the products of eight years of Clinton. Sudan had Bin Laden in 98 and the Clinton Administration turned them down. Something about we didn't have enough grounds to prosecute him.

Personally, I would rather our country's leadership ere on the side of caution with pre-emption than have a repeat of 9/11 or worse.

Saddam has got to go, if for nothing more than the 37 United States Sailors who were killed by two Iraqi exocet missles struck the USS Stark in May of 1987. Yes Virginia, Iraq has attacked the United States in the past. That in itself is justification enough as far as I am concerned.

Horrible Harry

 
EvilPete 2003-01-26 11:02:01 PM  
Uh-huh. And what of the thousands of Iraqi civilians killed by the USA? Outside of wartime. What about the thousands, if not millions, of Iraqis dying as a result of the trade embargo?

 
decaf333 2003-01-26 11:08:55 PM  
Kind of sad. It appears that "peace protesters" are really just socialist fronts in the US. They aren't interested in peace, they just want to bash the current administration. There was a "spontanious" rally a few months ago in MN. It was the faculty and staff (i.e. union folks) that turned out. They had a handfull of indoctrinated students, but alot less than was expected. This from the Wellstone state.

 
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