It didn't die, just started to suck.

rock guitar almost died, the Beatles helped save it

why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

zappawizard: why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't name another Big Bopper song with a gun and a penis to my head.

I live just outside Lubbock, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. Funny how nobody in this town would give Buddy Holly the time of day until he left town and got famous. Religious whackjobs are a queer lot, and it's fun to see how "You're playing the Devil's music" changed into "Oh, yeah, we're the chiznit and they came from here!"

zappawizard: rock guitar almost died, the Beatles helped save it

You seem like you should know enough about rock that "The Beatles" named themselves as a tribute to Buddy Holly's "Crickets."

why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

Worrying about what the admins greenlight around here will cause you undue stress and untimely death. Possibly in a small plane crash, but more likely from high blood pressure.

i've went to see a show in the last place they all played so i'm.....something something kick something

Good a time as any to listen to Al Stewart's Post World War Two Blues.

zappawizard: rock guitar almost died, the Beatles helped save it

Waylon Jennings was supposed to be on that flight.

"Richardson had developed a case of the flu during the tour and asked one of Holly's bandmates, Waylon Jennings, for his seat on the plane; Jennings agreed to give up the seat. When Holly learned that Jennings wasn't going to fly, he said, "Well, I hope your ol' bus freezes up." Jennings responded, "Well, I hope your ol' plane crashes." This exchange of words, though made in jest at the time, haunted Jennings for the rest of his life."(Link^)

RIP Buddy!

Yesterday was the 30th anniversary of Sid Vicious removing himself from the gene pool...

big bopper? seriously? holly was a bona fide genius. the big bopper was the baja men of 1958.

Here's two much better examples of how to commemorate this...

Charles Holley - Rock & Roll Specialist
Link (new window)

Ritchard Valenzuela - There's very little live footage of him that I could find, but here's some audio from a live performance.
Link (new window)

The audience looks like they were there to see someone else.

I hate Don McLean, maannn.

They paid $108 to charter a plane, and got a pilot that was not qualified to fly at night. Can you imagine the lawsuits that would occur if that happened 50 years later?

benlonghair: Waylon Jennings was supposed to be on that flight.

"Richardson had developed a case of the flu during the tour and asked one of Holly's bandmates, Waylon Jennings, for his seat on the plane; Jennings agreed to give up the seat. When Holly learned that Jennings wasn't going to fly, he said, "Well, I hope your ol' bus freezes up." Jennings responded, "Well, I hope your ol' plane crashes." This exchange of words, though made in jest at the time, haunted Jennings for the rest of his life."(Link^)

IIRC Valens won a coin toss against Dion of Dion and the Belmonts for his seat.

People look at me like I am mental when I tell them Buddy Holly was punk as fark!

Buddy's not dead! He's working down the fried fish shop in Three Roses!

//No way obscure

Cat Food Sandwiches: They paid $108 to charter a plane, and got a pilot that was not qualified to fly at night. Can you imagine the lawsuits that would occur if that happened 50 years later?

No such thing as a night flight rating in the US. So he was indeed qualified.

Today is the 50th anniversary of "The Day the Music Died".

meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

zvoidx: Today is the 50th anniversary of "The Day the Music Died".

meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

God, you fail.

zvoidx: meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

The term "Standing on the shoulders of giants" figure out what it means.

Marla Singer's Laundry: zvoidx: Today is the 50th anniversary of "The Day the Music Died".

meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

God, you fail.

Nope...

You're just not being honest. That song in the link "Chantilly Lace", although catchy and nostalgic, is, in reality, a piece of crap compared to the intense and creative Classic Rock and R&B from the 1970's.

I mean wtf, it's like "Monster Mash".

/deal with it

zvoidx: Marla Singer's Laundry: zvoidx: Today is the 50th anniversary of "The Day the Music Died".

meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

God, you fail.

Nope...

You're just not being honest. That song in the link "Chantilly Lace", although catchy and nostalgic, is, in reality, a piece of crap compared to the intense and creative Classic Rock and R&B from the 1970's.

I mean wtf, it's like "Monster Mash".

/deal with it

Yes, because every piece of music from the 1950s and before is exactly like Chantilly Lace. Every. Single. Song.

Also, hint: there's more music out there than rock and r&b.

zvoidx: You're just not being honest. That song in the link "Chantilly Lace", although catchy and nostalgic, is, in reality, a piece of crap compared to the intense and creative Classic Rock and R&B from the 1970's.

There would be no 70s rock and roll without this music. This music in turn would not exist without the blues. Lack of respect makes zvoidx look like an ass.

Where Buddy Holly Recorded (new window)

Restoring Buddy's 1958 Stratocaster (new window)

Buddy Holly Live in New York With Peggy Sue 1958 (new window)

R.A.Danny: zvoidx: You're just not being honest. That song in the link "Chantilly Lace", although catchy and nostalgic, is, in reality, a piece of crap compared to the intense and creative Classic Rock and R&B from the 1970's.

There would be no 70s rock and roll without this music. This music in turn would not exist without the blues. Lack of respect makes zvoidx look like an ass.

So, what... there would be no loaves of bread if the very first person didn't create the very first one... yet I doubt I would want to eat that bread.

another year goes by, and I still don't have my screen cap of the big bopper's tombstone from the simpsons...

/gooooooobyyyyee baaaaaaaaby!
//is ashamed...
///not for the joke, but for his laziness

And yet people keep accusing me of killing music with my Classic Hits by Microsoft Songsmith series.

benlonghair: Waylon Jennings was supposed to be on that flight.

"Richardson had developed a case of the flu during the tour and asked one of Holly's bandmates, Waylon Jennings, for his seat on the plane; Jennings agreed to give up the seat. When Holly learned that Jennings wasn't going to fly, he said, "Well, I hope your ol' bus freezes up." Jennings responded, "Well, I hope your ol' plane crashes." This exchange of words, though made in jest at the time, haunted Jennings for the rest of his life."(Link^)

Go listen to Waylon's cover of "Learning the Game" sometime with this in mind.

Having Mark Knopfler on Guitar is cool too.

HeadLever: Having Mark Knopfler on Guitar is cool too.

That fits in almost every thread.

AgentOrangeDrink: zappawizard: why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't name another Big Bopper song with a gun and a penis to my head.

To both of you...
Are you saying...'the least talented', because you don't like the song Chantilly Lace, or because HE didn't have a Movie made about him?
Technically, HE wrote TWO Number 1 songs for other artist, while Valens did not have a number 1 hit.

Running Bear~~Johnny Preston
White Lightnin'~~George Jones

When you get older you'll understand the term Think before you talk.

//Grew up listening to The Big Bopper on Radio Station KTRM in Beaumont Texas

Hempmonkey: AgentOrangeDrink: zappawizard: why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't name another Big Bopper song with a gun and a penis to my head.

To both of you...
Are you saying...'the least talented', because you don't like the song Chantilly Lace, or because HE didn't have a Movie made about him?
Technically, HE wrote TWO Number 1 songs for other artist, while Valens did not have a number 1 hit.

Running Bear~~Johnny Preston
White Lightnin'~~George Jones

When you get older you'll understand the term Think before you talk.

//Grew up listening to The Big Bopper on Radio Station KTRM in Beaumont Texas

Meanwhile Buddy Holly created a body of work in two and a half years that influenced pretty much every British rock band of the 1960s and is STILL influencing musicians. Valens and the Big Bopper are both pretty much footnotes who likely would not have been remembered AT ALL if they hadn't gotten on that plane. Number one hits mean nothing. There's plenty of artists who had a couple of number one hits that had no impact on music whatsoever.

zvoidx: Marla Singer's Laundry: zvoidx: Today is the 50th anniversary of "The Day the Music Died".

meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

God, you fail.

Nope...

You're just not being honest. That song in the link "Chantilly Lace", although catchy and nostalgic, is, in reality, a piece of crap compared to the intense and creative Classic Rock and R&B from the 1970's.

I mean wtf, it's like "Monster Mash".

/deal with it

Ah, yes, good thing there was no disco in the 70s. No smash hits from the Partridge Family. Yes, it was an amazing time. And such cool colors like puke green and enema orange. And Nixon. And the fall of Saigon, while "I've Never Been to Me" blasts in the background. Yes, greatest decade ever.

zappawizard: rock guitar almost died, the Beatles helped save it

By extensively covering Buddy Holly. (Along with the Rolling Stones, Linda Ronstadt, and many more...)

Buddy Holly was the first next generation rock star -- the others in his time were looking back at rock'n'roll's roots, he was pointing the way to its future.

Why would you restore buddy's guitar?
Leave it the fark alone you fat fark!

Also, Paul McCartney can EABOD.

What? Buddy Holly was moving into heavy stringed arrangements at the time of his death.Listen to his last songs." "Raining In My Heart", "It doesn't matter anymore","Everyday". Don't get me wrong,I love Buddy Holly's music and I think he was the Godfather of Hard Rock, but at this particular time he was without the Crickets and had gravitated away from the harder edged songs like "Its So Easy", "Peggy Sue",and "That'll Be The Day" The Big Bopper was already writing number one country/rockabilly songs besides "Chantilly Lace".Check out George Jones' version of "White Lightning".I'm sure JP never lived long enough to write and sing what might have been classics.Richie Valens was just a kid when he died (17)and he had already done two classic rock & roll songs "La Bamba" and "Donna".Who knows how far he would have gone.

AgentOrangeDrink: zappawizard: why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't name another Big Bopper song with a gun and a penis to my head.

Go fark yourselves, that guys was awesome.

El Freak: Hempmonkey: AgentOrangeDrink: zappawizard: why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't name another Big Bopper song with a gun and a penis to my head.

To both of you...
Are you saying...'the least talented', because you don't like the song Chantilly Lace, or because HE didn't have a Movie made about him?
Technically, HE wrote TWO Number 1 songs for other artist, while Valens did not have a number 1 hit.

Running Bear~~Johnny Preston
White Lightnin'~~George Jones

When you get older you'll understand the term Think before you talk.

//Grew up listening to The Big Bopper on Radio Station KTRM in Beaumont Texas

Meanwhile Buddy Holly created a body of work in two and a half years that influenced pretty much every British rock band of the 1960s and is STILL influencing musicians. Valens and the Big Bopper are both pretty much footnotes who likely would not have been remembered AT ALL if they hadn't gotten on that plane. Number one hits mean nothing. There's plenty of artists who had a couple of number one hits that had no impact on music whatsoever.

Number one hits mean nothing. There's plenty of artists who had a couple of number one hits that had no impact on music whatsoever
Using YOUR criteria, I can use four fingers on one hand to count the number of Artists that had Number 1 hits AND HAD an impact on music, and still have an extra finger.
Say it over and over til it sinks in....'number 1 hits mean nothing, number 1 hits mean nothing....' Then there are literally thousands of musical acts that don't have a chance to do anything in there lives, even though million and millions of fans still buy their stuff. Little do though know that they are all insignificant in your world. They should all quit now.

Hempmonkey: El Freak: Hempmonkey: AgentOrangeDrink: zappawizard: why did they pick the least talented of the 3 to represent the day?

My thoughts exactly, I couldn't name another Big Bopper song with a gun and a penis to my head.

To both of you...
Are you saying...'the least talented', because you don't like the song Chantilly Lace, or because HE didn't have a Movie made about him?
Technically, HE wrote TWO Number 1 songs for other artist, while Valens did not have a number 1 hit.

Running Bear~~Johnny Preston
White Lightnin'~~George Jones

When you get older you'll understand the term Think before you talk.

//Grew up listening to The Big Bopper on Radio Station KTRM in Beaumont Texas

Meanwhile Buddy Holly created a body of work in two and a half years that influenced pretty much every British rock band of the 1960s and is STILL influencing musicians. Valens and the Big Bopper are both pretty much footnotes who likely would not have been remembered AT ALL if they hadn't gotten on that plane. Number one hits mean nothing. There's plenty of artists who had a couple of number one hits that had no impact on music whatsoever.

Number one hits mean nothing. There's plenty of artists who had a couple of number one hits that had no impact on music whatsoever
Using YOUR criteria, I can use four fingers on one hand to count the number of Artists that had Number 1 hits AND HAD an impact on music, and still have an extra finger.
Say it over and over til it sinks in....'number 1 hits mean nothing, number 1 hits mean nothing....' Then there are literally thousands of musical acts that don't have a chance to do anything in there lives, even though million and millions of fans still buy their stuff. Little do though know that they are all insignificant in your world. They should all quit now.

I'm talking about influence. Find me ONE musician influenced by the Big Bopper. Just one. Just because it SOLD doesn't mean it had any influence on the music industry or really meant a damn thing to anybody. The Big Bopper was just a dj who got lucky by writing a couple of novelty songs. That's it. He might have been good at it, but that doesn't mean he had any impact other than selling some records.

By your criteria, since Crank That by Soulja Boy hit number one that must mean it will be a highly influential piece of music rather than just a throwaway novelty song. He'll be a footnote just like the Bopper is.

Marla Singer's Laundry: zvoidx: Marla Singer's Laundry: zvoidx: Today is the 50th anniversary of "The Day the Music Died".

meh.. I can't remember the last time I actively sought out music that was recorded 1959 and before...

The 1970's, on the other hand, still keeps kicking every other decade's musical ass.

/1970's FTW
//suck it, "50's"

God, you fail.

Nope...

You're just not being honest. That song in the link "Chantilly Lace", although catchy and nostalgic, is, in reality, a piece of crap compared to the intense and creative Classic Rock and R&B from the 1970's.

I mean wtf, it's like "Monster Mash".

/deal with it

Ah, yes, good thing there was no disco in the 70s. No smash hits from the Partridge Family. Yes, it was an amazing time. And such cool colors like puke green and enema orange. And Nixon. And the fall of Saigon, while "I've Never Been to Me" blasts in the background. Yes, greatest decade ever.

We also would have accepted "listening to 'Seasons in the Sun' while waiting in line to fill up the AMC Pacer."

Taleya: Buddy's not dead! He's working down the fried fish shop in Three Roses!

//No way obscure

"Coo Coo, Daddy Longlegs"

///Better not be obscure...

eeeleeet: It didn't die, just started to suck.

green fly pie with a mos-keeta side salad?

mostlygray: Taleya: Buddy's not dead! He's working down the fried fish shop in Three Roses!

//No way obscure

"Coo Coo, Daddy Longlegs"

///Better not be obscure...
I don't think The Young Ones is obscure to anyone over 25.

Buddy's second-last show was in Green Bay, Wis. Whenever I'd go to the Riverside Ballroom in my younger days to see a show, one of the bands would inevitably play a Buddy Holly song.

It was great.

/Tipped back more than a few last night while listening to Buddy Holly records.
//Rave on.