You mean it might take days, even weeks to restore power to over half a million people after a devastating ice storm? My GOD! Stop the presses! We better alert Washington DC circa 1999, the central plains in 2002, most of the farking country in '07, And pretty much everybody back in 1998.


Go cry moar, his response to this was better then ANY of the above, and yet some of you nutballs just can't let it go. In a way, i'm glad, since i fuel my car off your delicious tears, so keep up the fine work.

Did you even read the article?

i see where subby is coming from. The national guard is there going door to door checking on people.
There is a small army of linemen from all over the country working to replace thousands of miles of power lines.
Food and water are being trucked in, shelters are open and emergency generators are functioning to keep hotels and motels open as temp housing. Sounds like piss poor disaster recovery to me.

I think what subby meant was that when Obama waved his hand to produce rainbows and unicorns he trembled and instead wrought an ice storm upon Kentucky.

Fark Independents^TM still trying to define reality without facts.

This thread isn't off to a good start.

So here's a starter: FEMA doesn't roll in on Day One, unannounced. FEMA gets asked by state & local to roll in.

Same as Katrina, same now.

That's the way the fed, state & local entities are operating, and have been operating for decades. So I don't understand subby's complaint, or BlackCat23's or queezyweezel's comments. Or them that derided FEMA for a late response to Katrina, since local & state has to start the ball rolling.

OBTW, anti-Wal-Mart h8trz should note that Wal-Mart and disaster relief organizations have a deal -- to dispense water etc during an emergency.

Probably making a comparison to Bush who got blamed when things didn't magically happen after Katrina.

But since it's Obama, everything is ok.

So the Republicans now think Obama controls the weather? I'm starting to see why they can't win an election.

Obama has been in office almost 2 weeks and he still dont have FEMA straightend out!!!! What a slacker!!!!

The stupidity of Freepers is getting absolutely hilarious. They warp anything they possibly can into Obama being bad, and throw it at him praying anything will stick. I love this. Keep it up, keep pissing off everyone but the hardcore social conservatives. That will get you back in power!

Fark Independents^TM sure seem to be trying hard to make an issue out of nothing.

Maybe we should blame Kentuckians for not evacuating before the ice storm hit. Sounds like they got what they deserve because they didn't leave.

/Big difference between ice storms and Category-5 hurricane.
//Been through both and will take an ice storm anytime.

gonzoliga: So I don't understand subby's complaint, or BlackCat23's or queezyweezel's comments.

I think you need to re-read my comments. It had nothing to do with response times given, but instead made the point that there were many storms just like this, with similar, or even worse destruction and responses. And yet the fark independents just can't help but slather up the shlong, and have long hard jerk about it.

gonzoliga: This thread isn't off to a good start.

So here's a starter: FEMA doesn't roll in on Day One, unannounced. FEMA gets asked by state & local to roll in.

Same as Katrina, same now.

That's the way the fed, state & local entities are operating, and have been operating for decades. So I don't understand subby's complaint, or BlackCat23's or queezyweezel's comments. Or them that derided FEMA for a late response to Katrina, since local & state has to start the ball rolling.

OBTW, anti-Wal-Mart h8trz should note that Wal-Mart and disaster relief organizations have a deal -- to dispense water etc during an emergency.

Ahhh, I was pointing out that everything is going well.....

Submitter?
Do us all a favor.

BGates: But since it's Obama, everything is ok.

That's exactly right. You nailed it, Chet.

Maybe the "conservatives" can pray in church today for another disaster to strike. Even if they can't successfully vindicate their Messiah Bush and blast Obama it would still be a win for them if Americans suffer.

Ummm. We lost power for a few weeks in December (remember? Bush was President and all that?) Some places were without power until just a week ago. I think the total number of houses without power in New England was something like 600,000 or more.

I don't remember anyone getting their panties in a bunch about what Bush was doing about it. Yaknow why? He didn't do a god damned thing, nor did we expect him to.

So, in short. Go f*ck yourself subby.

Mordant: Maybe the "conservatives" can pray in church today for another disaster to strike. Even if they can't successfully vindicate their Messiah Bush and blast Obama it would still be a win for them if Americans suffer.

I'm sure they'll make sure to pray it happens somewhere either in the godless liberal northeast, or that godless liberal west coast.
After all, wouldn't want good christians to suffer.


/agreeing with your sarcasm.

the only "local official" cited in the story says almost nobody is breaking curfew.

no aspects of the response cited as inadequate

no alternatives provided


fark political tab's war on reality continues unabated.

Trolltastic headline? Check. Story that has nothing to do with said trolltastic headline? Check. Negative link voting score? Check.

Greenlight by a modmin looking for a train wreck thread? Check.

SilentStrider: I'm sure they'll make sure to pray it happens somewhere either in the godless liberal northeast, or that godless liberal west coast.
After all, wouldn't want good christians to suffer.

That would be just like them also. "Yeeee Hawww !! New York just got wiped off the map !!! Wait... this affects us too ?"

I don't mind trolly headlines designed to ignite flamewars, but I do wish subby would be clever enough to construct a headline that is actually (at least somewhat) representative of what TFA says...rather than spew freeper wharrgarbl and link to some random article.

BlackCat23: Trolltastic headline? Check. Story that has nothing to do with said trolltastic headline? Check. Negative link voting score? Check.

Greenlight by a modmin looking for a train wreck thread? Check.

And here we are posting in it. Dammit.

queezyweezel: And here we are posting in it. Dammit.

Heynow, i got my $5 worth this time around ;) I'm always down for a good WHARGARBBL thread, but this is hardly worthy of the effort, and yet here i am, still expelling it. Still, i can wait until all rational thought is lost, should be around 630ish tonight ;)

/this thread will die a slow painful death, since it's due to GL around kickoff.

To the idiots who think Obama is doing a heckofa job in Kentucky local officials would like to have a word with you

the fail is strong with this one

I read the article
I didnt read anything related to the headline

sounds like there was a disaster and people are digging out

how is this related to the catastrophe that was katrina?

/oh yes, and president obama wants to repair the infrastructure which chimpy-mcbush let languish, which is the cause of this outage???
/bwhahahahaa
/oh wait and the nation guard cant respond because they are out of the country?????

So Obama was supposed to helicopter in, rewire a whole power grid (which was under-designed) and personally tune your banjo, Smitts?

queezyweezel: BlackCat23: Trolltastic headline? Check. Story that has nothing to do with said trolltastic headline? Check. Negative link voting score? Check.

Greenlight by a modmin looking for a train wreck thread? Check.

And here we are posting in it. Dammit.

whatever. even when it sucks donkey dick, fark is the only game in town.

flavor of the month: queezyweezel: BlackCat23: Trolltastic headline? Check. Story that has nothing to do with said trolltastic headline? Check. Negative link voting score? Check.

Greenlight by a modmin looking for a train wreck thread? Check.

And here we are posting in it. Dammit.

whatever. even when it sucks donkey dick, fark is the only game in town.

You know what really impressed me? The fact that nobody in Kentucky complained when Obama ordered the police and National Guard to go door to door confiscating firearms.
I guess people are going to lay down and submit to his gun grabbing ass.

I hadn't heard about this ice storm. How many have died?

It's their own damn fault for choosing to live somewhere that ice storms might occur. This is completely foreseeable. Why should we bail them out of their poor decisions?

/That was the internet-conservative response to Katrina, right?

tallguywithglasseson: I hadn't heard about this ice storm. How many have died?

The storm that began in the Midwest has been blamed or suspected in at least 42 deaths, including nine in Arkansas, six each in Texas and Missouri, three in Virginia, two each in Oklahoma, Indiana and West Virginia and one in Ohio. Most were blamed on hypothermia, traffic accidents and carbon monoxide poisoning.

Hey, TFA was actually good for something!

I heard that (at least) one of the deaths was because some moran brought his charcoal BBQ into his house to keep warm.

Care to pin that on Obama, subby?

Waaaaah, we're going to have something comparable to Bush's Katrina failures one way or the other!

SilentStrider: I'm sure they'll make sure to pray it happens somewhere either in the godless liberal northeast, or that godless liberal west coast.
After all, wouldn't want good christians to suffer.

Perhaps praying to smite the liberal northeast was why Kentucky suffers and not the good Christians?



/Fire in the hole!

FTFA: A Louisville man who had been burning charcoal in a grill inside an apartment was apparently killed by carbon monoxide poisoning, the latest weather-related death


Yeah, that has Obama written all over it.

Lionel Mandrake: I heard that (at least) one of the deaths was because some moran brought his charcoal BBQ into his house to keep warm.

Care to pin that on Obama, subby?


Oops, I missed this gem before posting. Please forgive me forum gods.

/And send more pestilence, floods, etc to those godless people in the NE and west coast

oldfarthenry: So Obama was supposed to helicopter in, rewire a whole power grid (which was under-designed) and personally tune your banjo, Smitts?

I was promised earlier that he would fetch my slippers and cook me breakfast. Might as well add this to the list.

BGates: Probably making a comparison to Bush who got blamed when things didn't magically happen after Katrina.

But since it's Obama, everything is ok.

It's not that simple: Here is the situation as it started. (new window)

Bush and the Governor were having a power struggle...but she did ask for help and bush gave it.

The complaint is HOW BAD and incompetent the rescue effort wen off.

Obama actually called the Governor, and then helped with the Governor asked for it.

oldfarthenry: So Obama was supposed to helicopter in, rewire a whole power grid (which was under-designed) and personally tune your banjo, Smitts?

I believe Obama revealed another plan to rework the powr grid infrastructure by mid week. To be designed to take advantage of more green power and be reworked so that we can charge electric cars at our home.

So.... I wanted to skip right to the part in the article where it outlined how the President has failed with delivering federal aid. It went something like this:

Ctrl F + Obama = sidebar link (no matches in article)
Ctrl F + President = sidebar link (no matches in article)
Ctrl F + Feder... = no matches found

So WTF? gonzoliga explained everything better than I could have. So I defer to him/her/it.

Darth_Lukecash: Obama actually called the Governor, and then helped with the Governor asked for it.

Obama had the Executive Order ready in less than 90 minutes after he made the call according to this evul liberul rag^. Bush didn't even bother to come back from vacation.

If only there was some kind of lubricant to help KY out of such a tight spot.

BlackCat23: /this thread will die a slow painful death, since it's due to GL around kickoff.

I'm interested to see how many hardcore trolls would rather spew WHARRGARBL than watch the game.

Should be telling.

god tells me that he likes to watch ants dance.

-of all sizes.

HansensDisease: Darth_Lukecash: Obama actually called the Governor, and then helped with the Governor asked for it.

Obama had the Executive Order ready in less than 90 minutes after he made the call according to this evul liberul rag^. Bush didn't even bother to come back from vacation.

Should he? He still handled it. I'm not a Bush supporter mind you, but he still did his job no matter where he was at.

Apparently, Bush and Blanco got into a pissing match (see above snopes link) Bush wanted complete control of local and states authorities. The theory is that the State government was afraid once they relinquished control, the fed would blame them for thing that gone wrong.


But on the Saturday when they found out that the Hurricane WAS going to be horrendous, Blanco asked for help and Bush acted.

Darth_Lukecash: Should he? He still handled it. I'm not a Bush supporter mind you, but he still did his job no matter where he was at.

Quite frankly, I think it's arguable that Bush did his job at any point during his entire administration. He did lots of things, but did very little that I could consider holding to the oath of office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." .

Lionel Mandrake: I don't mind trolly headlines designed to ignite flamewars, but I do wish subby would be clever enough to construct a headline that is actually (at least somewhat) representative of what TFA says...rather than spew freeper wharrgarbl and link to some random article.

I think it's the wrong article

Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees. (new window)

John Paul Jones: Darth_Lukecash: Should he? He still handled it. I'm not a Bush supporter mind you, but he still did his job no matter where he was at.

Quite frankly, I think it's arguable that Bush did his job at any point during his entire administration. He did lots of things, but did very little that I could consider holding to the oath of office:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." .


He did his job, just horribly. Yes he sent FEMA down there, but the guy who was running had no clue what to do or how to handle it. My complaint has always been that he handled things horribly.

Darth_Lukecash: Should he? He still handled it.

Yep. I'm really diggin' how they rebuilt the 9th ward!

And how 'bout that shiny new Freedom tower in NYC? It was great the day they impaled Osama's head on the antenna mast.

First of all, Obama completed the paperwork declaring Kentucky a disaster area at 10:30 PM Wednesday. 50 generators arrived at Fort Campbell for dispersal to hospitals, shelters, etc. by noon Thursday.

Secondly, subby is obviously not in Kentucky. I actually know what's going on here. To see storm damage, all I have to do is look in my own backyard. (new window)

Most of Kentucky consists of narrow, winding country roads, much of it mountainous to boot. Even if the entire Army was here, there would still be people homebound and people without power. It's bad. But the reaction has been swift, and conditions are improving noticeably every day.

Hang On Voltaire: Lionel Mandrake: I don't mind trolly headlines designed to ignite flamewars, but I do wish subby would be clever enough to construct a headline that is actually (at least somewhat) representative of what TFA says...rather than spew freeper wharrgarbl and link to some random article.

I think it's the wrong article

Local officials were growing angry with what they said was a lack of help from the state and the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In Grayson County, about 80 miles southwest of Louisville, Emergency Management Director Randell Smith said the 25 National Guardsmen who have responded have no chain saws to clear fallen trees. (new window)


Interesting article, but it explained that FEMA is still trying to reach areas that are cut off and too dangerous to travel to. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have figured out a way.

It may be time to look at procedures. Hopefully Obama team will figure out where the weaknesses are and fix them.