That is really freaking interesting because I mucg prefer the MOthers of invention-era of Frank. Especially the first 3 albums and Unle Meat

But Were only in It and Absolutely Free are awesome. Freak Out might be my favorite

Sound organized for the purpose of decorating time

I love this description. Nail on the farking head.

As soon as Gail stops trying to shut down tribute bands like Project/Object, I'll start buying ZFT releases again. Until then, she can shove it.

Yep keep on trying to make his influence more than it really was.

I might be movin' to Montana soon
Just to raise me up a crop of
Dental Floss

Raisin' it up
Waxen it down
In a little white box
That I can sell uptown

By myself I wouldn't
Have no boss,
But I'd be raisin' my lonely
Dental Floss

Great, dozens of Zappa albums I don't have yet, and I'll need to buy this one a fifth time.

submitter: ironically

IS NOT IRONIC, GODDAMNIT! Irony is something happens OPPOSITE your expectations.

Frank Zappa:

Main influence Mike Patton, Mike Doughty, the inspiration behind the music for The Beastie Boys "Paul's Boutique" and hands down and without a doubt one of the best guitarists ever - acoustic or electric. (Get the "Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar" albums).

Oh, yeah - and Ween. There is a fine line between genius and insanity about a half-inch wide and Frank could drive an 18-wheeler down it.

the_be_sharps: submitter: ironically

IS NOT IRONIC, GODDAMNIT! Irony is something happens OPPOSITE your expectations.

Yes, it is ironic. Were Only in it For the Money is itself an ironic title making fun of 60s bands who sell out. The Mother's were not in it for the money -- they didn't really make much money until later. This rerelease, apparently done to make some scratch, reverses the original irony. So, ironically, the album's title need no longer be taken ironically.

So sort of like The Beatles' Love? Sounds cool, might pirate it. Might even buy it if Gail loosens her grip on Project/Object.

/current zappa collection: 22 albums, 3 DVDs, 1 book, 1 poster
//Zoot Allures = best guitar track ever

HappyHarryHardOn 2009-02-01 12:58:40 PM
That is really freaking interesting because I mucg prefer the MOthers of invention-era of Frank. Especially the first 3 albums and Unle Meat

But Were only in It and Absolutely Free are awesome. Freak Out might be my favorite

'Overture to "Holiday in Berlin"' FTW.
Plus 'Brown Shoes Dont Make It' and 'WPLJ'.
Partial to that stuff AND 'Hot Rats' but raising dental floss in Montana is one the stupidest songs ever.

Meh. Zappa sucks. I find him no more entertaining than if Weird Al started using dirty language and playing songs about penguin sex (gee, he is SO avant garde, i guess i'm just not cool enough).
I'll never understand why all the stoners seem to have singled out this douchebag for hero worship. He can play guitar okay i suppose but he will never compare to Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton.

hillarymom44: Meh. Zappa sucks. I find him no more entertaining than if Weird Al started using dirty language and playing songs about penguin sex (gee, he is SO avant garde, i guess i'm just not cool enough).
I'll never understand why all the stoners seem to have singled out this douchebag for hero worship. He can play guitar okay i suppose but he will never compare to Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton.

you are wrong, and you are not cool enough.
being a FZ fan is like being in an exclusive club.
either you get it or you don't, those who don't get it should stay away since we don't want you around.

I just like to post in Zappa threads. You know, for the kids.

zappawizard don't bite dude, obvious troll/douchebag.

Wow, another Zappa-worship thread on Fark. How ironic.

Hindmost: zappawizard don't bite dude, obvious troll/douchebag.

and to think I was all ready to subscribe to your newsletter...

Finally, I'll be able to ditch my shiatty quality MP3s of the Orchestral Lumpy Gravy Acetate!

/And replace them with high quality MP3s of the Orchestral Lumpy Gravy CD!

MiamiBlues: Yes, it is ironic. Were Only in it For the Money is itself an ironic title making fun of 60s bands who sell out. The Mother's were not in it for the money -- they didn't really make much money until later. This rerelease, apparently done to make some scratch, reverses the original irony. So, ironically, the album's title need no longer be taken ironically.

I think you just broke my brain.

I'd much rather they go into the FZ concert tapes and release more of those instead of this collage stuff.

Yeah, Gail needs to go STFU and go away if there is to be any resurgence of FZ's catalog. She shuts down anything she doesn't get a piece of, even if there's no piece to be had. She's keeping the next generation from fully appreciating a genius.

/RZZZZZ!
//FZZZZZ!

HappyHarryHardOn: That is really freaking interesting because I mucg prefer the MOthers of invention-era of Frank. Especially the first 3 albums and Unle Meat

But Were only in It and Absolutely Free are awesome. Freak Out might be my favorite

I agree. Money, freak out and Free are my absolute favorites with Overnite Sensation and Apostrophe close behind.

my first copy was a bootleg LP



Money, Freak Out and Absolutely Free are great

but Overnite Sensation and Apostrophe are overrated
because they are much less experimental.

Hot Rats makes either album look ridiculously lazy.



http://myspace.com/daveyunderground

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Yep keep on trying to make his influence more than it really was.


You say this because you don't understand Zappa. His influence grows, everyday.

EVERYBODY hates on Zappa, it's the cool thing to do, even for you emo grunge punk folk.

But every year, more and more kids turn to the things their parents rave against - like Zappa.

He's so cool he won't even be an effective alternative source for two generations.

Apik0r0s: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Yep keep on trying to make his influence more than it really was.


You say this because you don't understand Zappa. His influence grows, everyday.

EVERYBODY hates on Zappa, it's the cool thing to do, even for you emo grunge punk folk.

But every year, more and more kids turn to the things their parents rave against - like Zappa.

He's so cool he won't even be an effective alternative source for two generations.

Okay, lemme take the middle ground here.

Frank Zappa was a prolific musician. He did a lot of work, some I think is quite good, some I think is rather mediocre at best. Personally, I love "We're only in it for the money", "Uncle Meat" and "Hot Rats". I could care less for most of his later-day humour work - cute novelty songs, some with a few interesting melodic bits, but still, nothing that special in my opinion.

People don't hate on Zappa because it's "cool" - most people don't give a flying fark about him. People hate him because of people like crab66 who apparently feel it's the height of clever to copy-paste FZ's lyrics or others who worship everything he ever put to tape. Kinda like people who endlessly recite Monty Python, it's a great way to associate an artist with legions of mindless sycophants. Happens with Pink Floyd a lot as well I find.

Frank Zappa wasn't ahead of our time. He was cutting edge for *his* time, and he did a lot of innovative stuff, especially in his earlier days. He was also a damn good guitarist. He also had a lot of meh work later on. You can sit there and give him a posthumous blow if you want to, but it's the raving loonies who go on about his work being "so cool he won't even be an effective alternative source for two generations" that causes people with more level heads to roll their eyes and apply a bit of perspective here.

/sorry, a variation of my standard Frank Zappa rant
/it's wrong to hate a musician because of their fanboys, but it's tempting sometimes.
/just a farking musician.

..'Lumpy Gravy,' 'We're Only in It for the Money' and 'Civilization Phaze III'..

For My taste, 'We're Only in It for the Money' isn't a masterwork and doesn't belong, but the other two, especially Lumpy Gravy, are brilliant pieces of high art.

Subby makes it seem like Gail said that the Lonely Little Girl collage "makes The Beatles and Brian Wilson's own beatific sound-constructs seem timid by comparison.". This was the author injecting his opinion. I wonder if he has even heard the single version of Lonely Little Girl? It's not very good. Just an edit featuring LLG and Take Your Clothes off. Other stuff FZ did whips the pants of anything the Beatles or Brain Wilson did, but not this track.

As for the set itself, I love it. The orchestral Lumpy Gravy and LG outtakes are incredible. I love the original LG album, and I was blown away by how good this new stuff is. Word of warning for the set, though - disc 2 features the 80's remixes of Lumpy Gravy & Only Money.

"Unlikely" tag broken?

/not a fan
//not a hater, though

zappawizard: hillarymom44: Meh. Zappa sucks. I find him no more entertaining than if Weird Al started using dirty language and playing songs about penguin sex (gee, he is SO avant garde, i guess i'm just not cool enough).
I'll never understand why all the stoners seem to have singled out this douchebag for hero worship. He can play guitar okay i suppose but he will never compare to Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton.

you are wrong, and you are not cool enough.
being a FZ fan is like being in an exclusive club.
either you get it or you don't, those who don't get it should stay away since we don't want you around.

So correct! Either you get it or you don't!

hillarymom44: Meh. Zappa sucks. I find him no more entertaining than if Weird Al started using dirty language and playing songs about penguin sex (gee, he is SO avant garde, i guess i'm just not cool enough).
I'll never understand why all the stoners seem to have singled out this douchebag for hero worship. He can play guitar okay i suppose but he will never compare to Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton.

Re-release of the most anti-hippie album of all time labeled as stoner music. Are you trying to fail? Way to have no idea what you're talking about Hillarymom.

Who Needs The Peace Corps?

What's there to live for?
Who needs the peace corps?

Think I'll just drop out
I'll go to frisco
Buy a wig & sleep
On owsley's floor

Walked past the wig store
Danced at the fillmore
I'm completely stoned
I'm hippy & I'm trippy
I'm a gypsy on my own
I'll stay a week & get the crabs &
Take a bus back home
I'm really just a phony
But forgive me
'cause I'm stoned

Every town must have a place
Where phony hippies meet
Psychedelic dungeons
Popping up every street
Go to san francisco

How I love ya, how I love ya
How I love ya, how I love ya frisco!
How I love ya, how I love ya
How I love ya, how I love ya
Oh, my hair is getting good in the back! every town must have a place
Where phony hippies meet
Psychedelic dungeons
Popping up on every street
Go to san francisco...

Hotcha!

First I'll buy some beads
And then perhaps a leather band
To go around my head
Some feathers and bells
And a book of indian lure
I will ask the chamber of commerce
How to get to height street
And smoke an awful lot of dope

I will wander around barefoot
I will have a psychedelic gleam in my eye at all times
I will love everyone
I will love the police as they kick the sh*t out of me on the street
I will sleep...
I will, I will go to a house
That's, that's what I will do
I will go to a house
Where there's a rock roll band
'cause the groups all live together
And I will join a rock & roll band
I will be their road manager
And I will stay there with them
And I will get the crabs
But I won't care

Pre-moistened dumper--awesome:

Jewish Princess lyrics

I want a nasty little jewish princess
With long phony nails and a hairdo that rinses
A horny little jewish princess
With a garlic aroma that could level tacoma
Lonely inside
Well, she can swallow my pride

I want a hairy little jewish princess
With a brand new nose, who knows where it goes
I want a steamy little jewish princess
With over-worked gums, who squeaks when she cums
I dont want no troll
I just want a yemenite hole

I want a darling little jewish princess
Who dont shiat about cooking and is arrogant looking
A vicious little jewish princess
To specifically happen with a pee-pee thats snappin
All up inside
I just want a princess to ride
Awright, back to the top...everybody twist

I want a funky little jewish princess
A grinder; a bumper, with a pre-moistened dumper
A brazen little jewish princess
With titanic tits, and sand-blasted zits
She can even be poor
So long as she does it with four on the floor
(vapor-lock)

I want a dainty little jewish princess
With a couple of sisters who can raise a few blisters
A fragile little jewish princess
With roumanian thighs, who weasels n lies
For two or three nights
Wont someone send me a princess who bites
Wont someone send me a princess who bites
Wont someone send me a princess who bites
Wont someone send me a princess who bites

bbernardini: As soon as Gail stops trying to shut down tribute bands like Project/Object, I'll start buying ZFT releases again. Until then, she can shove it.

Project / Object are great, especially when Ike Willis performs with them. Comparitively, Zappa Plays Zappa (with Dweezil at the helm) is not quite as good.