Oh, this thread is gonna be good.
The Freepers will be torn between taking the side of the government official advocating family planning and a welfare mother with 14 kids.
I may have to get a second popcorn maker.

Don't blame me, I just have one.

Wow. This story has given birth to octuplet greenlit links.

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I'm starting to get really irritated with this story.
As a taxpayer in California, I didn't get to vote if my money is going to help raise her own private rugby team.
I don't have any of my own kids, I just pay for the kids of everybody else.

Oh good, more opportunities to kick the breeder around.

I wonder if she could be the kick-starter we need for requiring a license to have kids?

Have as many as you want. If you're reading this you are probably not the one causing the problem.

I've said something similar for quite a while... Every person should get a card good for one pregnancy. You're responsible for a pregnancy that goes to term, one of you has to turn in your card (whether it's one baby, twins, etc, it wouldn't be fair to say that just because you have triplets you're screwed). If you can't turn one in, sorry - no tax breaks for you - instead, you get to pay extra taxes to cover the services that will have to be provided to you and your crotchfruit.

No forced abortions, no strict limits, no eugenics. Just tax the shiat out of people who go beyond that limit. Give everyone free contraceptives and there's no excuse - even if a condom breaks and you end up pregnant, that's still only 1 of the 2 cards per couple taken out of play. People who can afford kids could have as many as they wanted. Stupid people who pump out kids like a damn clown car would starve. People would be a bit more careful before they ended up screwing indiscriminately. It's a win-win.

I stuck the landing! I got a twofer! Their carbon foot print is huge, much to my dismay. Okay, not sure about their carbon footprints, but their footprints are huge!

no clever name here just move along: I don't have any of my own kids, I just pay for the kids of everybody else.

As did the Grandparents before you! Yet, you learned to write. I'm thankful for that. Somebody funded that?

Oh wait, Immaculate Education!

anybody ever read Enders game By Orson Scott Card?

if so.. the similarity's are mounting :-\

Procedural Texture: The Freepers will be torn between taking the side of the government official advocating family planning and a welfare mother with 14 kids.

Nah, I predict they'll be glad she didn't abort any of the precious fetuses, but not really care about what happens to them now, except for some token comments about "Maybe if she finds Jesus her church can assist her".

Or they'll blame Obama, because she sounds Muslim.

corporatestool: Have as many as you want. If you're reading this you are probably not the one causing the problem.

Right, because your nine crotch-fruit will all be perfect citizens, and all be able to take care of themselves, as will their 81 children, their 729, and their 6561, because you are reading fark right now. And none of them will cause any environmental problems, or start any wars, because you are reading fark right now. You see, lots of people have a stereotypical version in their minds about the typical farker, and little do they know how much effort we are putting in to save the planet and make society a better place.

It's not bad enough that the woman had a freaking litter, but SHE ALREADY HAD SIX KIDS. That's fourteen children. Fourteen children in only six pregnancies.

She's a single mom who's competing with the Duggars. At least the Duggars support all of their kids themselves, and didn't percolate any of their brood in a petri dish.

Actually, whats going on is a HUGE biological imbalance.

Urbanized/Advanced countries have a VERY low birth rate AND maintain a welfare-heavy state, which means each subsquent generation will have a smaller working population than the one preceeding. This will lead to eventual economic collapse if the welfare state is maintained.

Undeveloped/Primitive countries have TOO high a birth-rate, which means the population will eventually outstrip available resources, leading to either increased conflict or migration to less densely populated areas, ressulting in ever-spreading cultural and ethnic strife.

This usually comes up in Usenet threads when someone justifies their use of a H2 for daily driving with a statement like "well, what if the whole family has to go somewhere? I have four kids, you know."

Three I could give someone a pass on. Maybe the second go-round was twins or something. Four takes deliberate selfishness.

The problem is, of course, that smart people *will* only have 1-3 kids. Stupid people will have as many as they can.

/trying to figure out how people afford any kids at all

I'm still trying to figure out, after having SIX kids, she decided she wanted EIGHT more.

Sterilization MUST come first before any government handouts.

Also, child neglect or child abuse -> forced sterilization.

i am the last person to be for mandated family planning.....but this woman could persuede me.

To those in agreement....oh you're already alive to hate on those who aren't born yet. Hmmm, instead of hatin' on the unborn, hate on yourselves and commit suicide.

/lead by example you f'n pussies or GTFO
//f the author

"Any more than two kids and you're destroying the planet. We're talking to YOU, octuplet lady who has 14 kids"

It turns out that she already had six kids... so she has 14 kids now... just like this character:

IRONIC: The people who advocate 'CHOICE' when it comes to Abortion are now advocating taking away the CHOICE about how many children you want to have.

China allows 1 child, we want to limit it to 2. I guess allowing us to have 2 makes us better than the commies and thus still free. Ha!

That chick really torques my shorts. My wife and I can't even seem be able to have kids and this clown car on legs is pumping them out like a factory on (seemingly) everyone else's dime. No one ever said that the world was fair but WTF?

/rant over
/back to the blown out tire and "I'm thinking Arby's" jokes.

Overpopulation is the giant elephant in the room that politicians never mention when discussing issues of world hunger, poverty, instability, war, and environmental degradation. How can we expect to have peace, prosperity, and sustainable economic development in countries that double their population every 20 years? Gaza has one of the highest growth rates in the world; 45% of Afghanistan's population is under the age of 14. There's no way that economic growth and domestic agricultural production can keep up with that.

/Sorry, slightly tangential rant...

Clearly killing babies is the solution on this problem, I suggest free bats.

just_dis_guy:
This usually comes up in Usenet threads when someone justifies their use of a H2 for daily driving with a statement like "well, what if the whole family has to go somewhere? I have four kids, you know."

Three I could give someone a pass on. Maybe the second go-round was twins or something. Four takes deliberate selfishness.

The problem is, of course, that smart people *will* only have 1-3 kids. Stupid people will have as many as they can.

The people I know with the most kids (5 incl. twins) are a couple of university professors. Their jobs offer generous salaries and very flexible hours but to me they seem constantly occupied with kid stuff. You don't hear about the working poor having five kids very much up here.

/trying to figure out how people afford any kids at all

Me too. I think they just... do. It probably involves either developing fantastic money skills, or eliminating all the unnecessary expenses like "mom and dad's hobbies" and "traveling anywhere except at Christmas" and "having a computer new enough to run Gears of War".

Once I grew up, I had a much better understanding of what miracle workers my parents were and what they sacrificed so we could have a reasonably decent childhood. And honestly, I feel kind of bad about it.

no clever name here just move along: I'm starting to get really irritated with this story.
As a taxpayer in California, I didn't get to vote if my money is going to help raise her own private rugby team.
I don't have any of my own kids, I just pay for the kids of everybody else.

And when you get old, her kids are going to be paying the taxes that fund your social security and Medicare.

Ideally you want an average birth rate of slightly higher than 2 kids per family. But if you enforce a limit of 2 children per individual family, then you'll average a much lower birth rate because not everybody will have 2 kids.

Mad Canadian: I'm still trying to figure out, after having SIX kids, she decided she wanted EIGHT more.

No no. She had a bunch o frozen embryos from way back. She already had six kids, and decided to have the six (I think) remaining ones implanted. In typical "not thinking your cunning plan all the way through" manner, some of her embryos became twins. Therefore, eight kids.

I expect this initiative to die a quiet death when (if?) it is determined that nubians are more likely to have three or more kids than other races.

/No, nobody wants to see a television show about 18 negroes living in the same house together.
//Or do they??
///Negro.

superman0094: To those in agreement....oh you're already alive to hate on those who aren't born yet. Hmmm, instead of hatin' on the unborn, hate on yourselves and commit suicide.

/lead by example you f'n pussies or GTFO
//f the author

Your troll-fu is weak and apparently so is your grammar.

I have two sons, I don't belong to the Republican party and I use biodiesel. Please don't send me to the camps.

The concept of Zero Population Growth has been around for decades.( Two kids only - each to replace a parent.) ZPG came into being at the same time as Earth Day; having a large population stressed the environment too much and made for harsh living conditions. Intelligent people (from my generation), generally, believed in this and followed suit. It's the dumb bastards that didn't get the point and bred too many french-fry makers.

I go with SystemFault's philosophy, but I'd also go one step further: sterilization for anyone who cannot independently function in society.

Shall we make this a 'smug contest' of our goodness to the planet?

-Drives a used Nissan Altima. Not the best mileage, getting it didn't require the manufacture of new materials.
-Vegetarian. Them animals wouldn't be farting out greenhouse methane, pooping out water polluting shiat, drinking out water and eating our grains, or demanding heavy trunks to take them and their carcasses around if we didn't breed them to be here in the first place.
-Only child. As the single crotchfruit my parents popped out, I kept the clown car scenario at bay. I'm proud my parents had their fertility at 1.0.
-No children. I'm not intending to pop out any kids (or rather have someone pop them out for me as birthing through a mangina is reportedly difficult). Sure that could change, but my hope would be to never have more than one or two.
-Lives in an apartment. High density residential is efficient in its land use. Less land is cleared of vegetation and wildlife versus single-family homes.

Anyone care to top the so-called smug?

/I'll concede I run the computer at all hours of the day, which uses gobs of electricity, though that is an issue that can be remedied through alternation of the local utility's power generation.
//Obese, so I likely eat about 1.5x what I could if I were much slimmer. That's a goal I'm working on. -10lbs since the start of January.

ryebread: I've said something similar for quite a while... Every person should get a card good for one pregnancy. You're responsible for a pregnancy that goes to term, one of you has to turn in your card (whether it's one baby, twins, etc, it wouldn't be fair to say that just because you have triplets you're screwed). If you can't turn one in, sorry - no tax breaks for you - instead, you get to pay extra taxes to cover the services that will have to be provided to you and your crotchfruit.


No forced abortions, no strict limits, no eugenics. Just tax the shiat out of people who go beyond that limit. Give everyone free contraceptives and there's no excuse - even if a condom breaks and you end up pregnant, that's still only 1 of the 2 cards per couple taken out of play. People who can afford kids could have as many as they wanted. Stupid people who pump out kids like a damn clown car would starve. People would be a bit more careful before they ended up screwing indiscriminately. It's a win-win.


So basically what you're saying is: Those who pay taxes and have jobs (generally responsible people of all walks of life) should be punished for having more than 2.

Those people who already dont pay any taxes and thus are uninfluenced by increases in taxes would be free to have as many irresponsible kids as they want.

About the only part of your plan that makes any sense at all is free contraception for everyone.

superman0094: To those in agreement....oh you're already alive to hate on those who aren't born yet. Hmmm, instead of hatin' on the unborn, hate on yourselves and commit suicide.

/lead by example you f'n pussies or GTFO
//f the author

Nobody's hating on the unborn. They're bent out of shape because of this woman's grossly irresponsible behavior in having 14 children she clearly cannot support without tax dollar assistance.

Candidly, I think the doctors who knowingly implanted multiple embryos and then offered 'selective termination' are farking Frankensteins and don't need to be practicing medicine.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

rac23: superman0094: To those in agreement....oh you're already alive to hate on those who aren't born yet. Hmmm, instead of hatin' on the unborn, hate on yourselves and commit suicide.

/lead by example you f'n pussies or GTFO
//f the author

Your troll-fu is weak and apparently so is your grammar.

This sums it up better.

Swampthing in Korea: Urbanized/Advanced countries have a VERY low birth rate AND maintain a welfare-heavy state, which means each subsquent generation will have a smaller working population than the one preceeding. This will lead to eventual economic collapse if the welfare state is maintained.

Undeveloped/Primitive countries have TOO high a birth-rate, which means the population will eventually outstrip available resources, leading to either increased conflict or migration to less densely populated areas, ressulting in ever-spreading cultural and ethnic strife.

I think I smell a solution in there somewhere.

Isn't the rate of population growth decreasing worldwide?

Population control is oppressive and results in increased abortions and infanticide.

ryebread: I've said something similar for quite a while... Every person should get a card good for one pregnancy. You're responsible for a pregnancy that goes to term, one of you has to turn in your card (whether it's one baby, twins, etc, it wouldn't be fair to say that just because you have triplets you're screwed). If you can't turn one in, sorry - no tax breaks for you - instead, you get to pay extra taxes to cover the services that will have to be provided to you and your crotchfruit.

No forced abortions, no strict limits, no eugenics. Just tax the shiat out of people who go beyond that limit. Give everyone free contraceptives and there's no excuse - even if a condom breaks and you end up pregnant, that's still only 1 of the 2 cards per couple taken out of play. People who can afford kids could have as many as they wanted. Stupid people who pump out kids like a damn clown car would starve apply for welfare and simply not pay their taxes. The kids would then become wards of the state, costing even more money. People would be a bit more careful before they ended up screwing indiscriminately. It's a win-win.

FTFY

/Just one of my issues with your post.
//You're not bright, are you?

No Such Agency: Procedural Texture: The Freepers will be torn between taking the side of the government official advocating family planning and a welfare mother with 14 kids.

Nah, I predict they'll be glad she didn't abort any of the precious fetuses, but not really care about what happens to them now, except for some token comments about "Maybe if she finds Jesus her church can assist her".

Or they'll blame Obama, because she sounds Muslim.

Teh Stoopid is stron in this thread...

I've got 3 kids, and I drive them to school every day in my Hummer H1, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

The environazis can kiss my ass.

/USA! USA! USA!
//I heat my house with a coal stove too!

As long as this woman doesn't rely on ANY public funds to raise the "young'ens" I say DILLIGAF...If she is independently wealthy enough living in mommies basement, then more power to her. BUT if she feeds from the public teat...then no future kids should feed from hers. If, in fact, she is on every type public assistance (food stamps, wic, welfare, etc...) then she forfeits that too. She didn't have octuplets as a result of natural conception, this was all IVF. I feel bad for her and her family, actually. I am wondering if there isn't something "not quite right" with her. In either case, flame on...

/not trolling...just wondering

Arkanaut: no clever name here just move along: I'm starting to get really irritated with this story.
As a taxpayer in California, I didn't get to vote if my money is going to help raise her own private rugby team.
I don't have any of my own kids, I just pay for the kids of everybody else.

And when you get old, her kids are going to be paying the taxes that fund your social security and Medicare.

Ideally you want an average birth rate of slightly higher than 2 kids per family. But if you enforce a limit of 2 children per individual family, then you'll average a much lower birth rate because not everybody will have 2 kids.

frankly the current population size is already far to large so a low birth rate isn't really that bad. For those people worrying about their social security and medicare please realize that constant population grow will eventually lead to famine and starvation. lets see retire in style and starve to death or keep working and live...

Have as many kids as you want but if you have more then you can afford, you fail as a parent and are an irresponsible prick. For every kid over two, you get to pay what they take out of the system in services; rates adjusted for inflation and write the legislation so no extra taxes can be tagged onto this. Nothing else unless there is an apparent danger to the child due to a parent's responsibility. Herein lies the problem: child services needs an overhaul. Way too much abuse towards the innocent; e.g. forcing a person who was not the father to pay for child support, among other horror stories. In its state right now, invoking child services or government regulation would be a very bad idea.

I have 4 kids.

We drive around the country in our individual Hummers going from farm town to farm town, grazing on the crops like locusts. When we've had our fill (we're all very fat) we set what's left on fire and move on. En route we randomly fire our guns out the window. The only time we aren't doing this is when we're in church praying to the Blessed Virgin to grant us the gift of more children. Then the circle of life continues.

You can't stop us.

But TWO are twice as bad as ONE. Maybe the Chinese had it right.

Mongo cut wood: IRONIC: The people who advocate 'CHOICE' when it comes to Abortion are now advocating taking away the CHOICE about how many children you want to have.

This. As I said, Teh Stoopid is quite strong in this thread. Procedural Texture led off with how the Freepers would be conflicted; as usual, the Libtards lead w/ their chins and project all over the place (without bothering to clean it up).

/Not a Freeper, but I'm getting quite a laugh over how the Libtards are reacting to this.
//All quite predictable.
///And sad.

No Such Agency: just_dis_guy:
This usually comes up in Usenet threads when someone justifies their use of a H2 for daily driving with a statement like "well, what if the whole family has to go somewhere? I have four kids, you know."

Three I could give someone a pass on. Maybe the second go-round was twins or something. Four takes deliberate selfishness.

The problem is, of course, that smart people *will* only have 1-3 kids. Stupid people will have as many as they can.

The people I know with the most kids (5 incl. twins) are a couple of university professors. Their jobs offer generous salaries and very flexible hours but to me they seem constantly occupied with kid stuff. You don't hear about the working poor having five kids very much up here.

It's quite common where I grew up. In your university professor example, I don't agree with their choices, but I have a lot less room to biatch about them because at least they're raising their kids without outside assistance and therefore aren't creating an immediate drain on society. One could even argue that they could get a pass for that because they've proven themselves superior by our society's measures so they should have the right to leave a little extra genetic material behind.

/trying to figure out how people afford any kids at all

Me too. I think they just... do. It probably involves either developing fantastic money skills, or eliminating all the unnecessary expenses like "mom and dad's hobbies" and "traveling anywhere except at Christmas" and "having a computer new enough to run Gears of War".

Once I grew up, I had a much better understanding of what miracle workers my parents were and what they sacrificed so we could have a reasonably decent childhood. And honestly, I feel kind of bad about it.

In my case "mom and dad's hobbies" include living indoors and eating, and I suppose having a clean, safe house. I do confess to having some old cars, although since the purchase of said house, funds to work on them have become severely limited.

The sad thing is that I make what probably would seem like a lot of money, but because I live in a very expensive area and didn't get a whole lot of dough from my own parents, a lot of my own income just goes to pay the mortgage and credit card (most of which was spent at the local hardware store, building supply, etc.)

I'd like to think that once the housing market turns around I'll have lots of equity etc. but we'll see about that.

rac23: superman0094: To those in agreement....oh you're already alive to hate on those who aren't born yet. Hmmm, instead of hatin' on the unborn, hate on yourselves and commit suicide.

/lead by example you f'n pussies or GTFO
//f the author

Your troll-fu is weak and apparently so is your grammar.

Grammar nazi?
Sure sign you got nuthin' else!