Barack has a helluva lot more moves than Jimmy did.

Unleash JIM WEBB! "You're gonna sign this goddamn thing or I'll blow yer brains out!"

Rechain JIM WEBB!


/Jim Webb, break glass only in case of emergency.

I can make things up too. Watch:

"Less than two weeks into his retirement, George W. Bush is being portrayed by opponents as a new Pol Pot - destructive at home and belligerent abroad - in an attempt to ensure that he serves time in a Turkish prison."

See?

LESS than two weeks into his administration, President Barack Obama is being portrayed by opponents as a new Jimmy Carter - weak at home and naive abroad - in an attempt to dim his post-election glow and ensure that he serves only one term.

They're getting desperate. Limbaugh was trying to pin all our economic woes on Obama before Obama had even been sworn into office. Now - I have issues with Obma's plans. I think he's going the wrong direction....but I don't blame Obama for things he didn't do. At least give the guy a chance to TRY something before declaring him an utter failure.

Eleven days.

Seriously.

It's been eleven days.

please, they've been trying to compare him to carter since he become the frontrunner in the primaries, and they've been laughed out of the room each time.

Obama to post-ice storm Kentucky: Drop Dead

burndtdan: please, they've been trying to compare him to carter since he become the frontrunner in the primaries, and they've been laughed out of the room each time.

The Republicans need to discredit Obama. If they can't blame him for something then there is a chance they'll lose more ground during the midterm elections.

GOP plan: anoint Rush Limbaugh as leader and soul of the party, and counter a popular President on every piddling detail.

That should turn your numbers around, guys. Great jaerb!

TheAbstractor: Obama to post-ice storm Kentucky: Drop Dead

You missed an opportunity to compare it to Katrina.

In other words "Oh please god let him fail". If he doesn't, they're screwed, even if he does then can point out that people who wish for others to fail are not the kind of people you want in office.

Seriously, where is the GOP getting advice from these days? Bazooka Joe comics would serve them better.

Newsflash: He's been tagged as the new Jimmy Carter for months now. Only time will tell if he's actually worse or not....

I'd really like to know how the "conservatives" can keep justifying themselves at this point. I know that anyone who disagrees with you must be a lib... and frankly, if you want to call me a lib that's fine.

But look above. Even Weaver thinks you're a bunch of assholes now. Me Texan, a solid conservative (from freaking Texas, no less) also thinks you're a bunch of assholes. How can you possibly keep closing ranks and circling your pathetic burning wagons even tighter with every passing day ? Does it bother you that since losing the election you've actually lost even more ground in public opinion ?

What the hell are you going to do next ?

To be fair, opposing is kinda the job of the opposition.

Tellurianix: To be fair, opposing is kinda the job of the opposition.

Good. Obama is a known proponent of breathing... let the opposition show their dedication at once !

WhyteRaven74: Seriously, where is the GOP getting advice from these days? Bazooka Joe comics would serve them better.

I keep coming back to the split between the fiscal conservatives and the socal conservatives (i.e. the fundies). This election was *entirely* run by the fundies. Palin and McCain used their rhetoric, they ran on that platform, they campaigned using their slogans. The party organizations at the local level were run by the fundies, they debated fundie issues at all levels, and they thumped bibles and waved the flag for the entire duration of the campaign season.

And they got their teeth kicked in by Obama.

Now, a normal response to such a loss would be a frank analysis of what worked and what didn't. Then you would change what didn't work and come back with a new plan. However - the fundies aren't 'normal'. They *still* cannot admit to themselves that their ideology cost them the election. So they're trying to pin the blame on the fiscal conservatives and drive them out of the party.

it's the only reason I can think of to explain why the GOP isn't revising their message or changing their tactics.

Tellurianix: To be fair, opposing is kinda the job of the opposition.

I'll be fair. Mitch McConnell's housing proposition is a decent start. Housing prices are still a bit elevated, but too many underlying things are tied to let them plunge as far they are going. The tax credit and rate reduction combined with Fannie and Freddie's plan is a good first step.

This reminds me of my incredibly conservative grandmother who was biatching because he hadn't done anything to improve the economy in an entire week. Uh yeah, eight years of Bush can't be cleaned up overnight you know. The best part is she has guaranteed Social Security and a pension while I am unemployed. Yeah, I feel for her.

Mordant: What the hell are you going to do next ?

blame it all on Obama, then wait for the muslim apocalypse to happen.

Weaver95: This election was *entirely* run by the fundies.

They wanted to lose. Seriously, Obama has so much crap to clean up that no sane man wanted to be president. Hell, both sides tried to throw the election by having the most unelectable people on the ballot but thanks to the two party system one of them had to win. No matter how awesome he could be, he'll be considered a mediocre president at best because of all of Bush's crap he has to clean up.

eddyatwork: Weaver95: This election was *entirely* run by the fundies.

They wanted to lose. Seriously, Obama has so much crap to clean up that no sane man wanted to be president. Hell, both sides tried to throw the election by having the most unelectable people on the ballot but thanks to the two party system one of them had to win. No matter how awesome he could be, he'll be considered a mediocre president at best because of all of Bush's crap he has to clean up.

I don't know if they wanted to lose, but it sure didn't seem like McCain tried very hard to win. After Obama won the nomination it seemed as if all the fight just went out of McCain.

Weaver95: They *still* cannot admit to themselves that their ideology cost them the election.

Of course they can't. The basic tenet of fundamentalism is that your 'values' are driven by God. Anyone that would compromise those values is obviously going against Gods word. And the GOP has foolishly hitched their wagon to that horse and can't let go.

Tellurianix: To be fair, opposing is kinda the job of the opposition.

Opposing for the sake of being the opposition is not excusable. Certainly, opposing when genuine disagreement is present is fine, but the House GOP has adopted a position of "oppose the President on everything," which is childish bullshiat.

The House GOP is not holding to a firm belief system that necessitates opposing the President; opposing the President has become their raison d'etre, and that is sad and pathetic.

Mordant: Tellurianix: To be fair, opposing is kinda the job of the opposition.

Good. Obama is a known proponent of breathing... let the opposition show their dedication at once !

Breathing on land is boring. A true progressive would breath under water.

Weaver95: I don't know if they wanted to lose

Of course they did. Think about it. Two foreign wars against third world shiatholes that we are losing, a deficit so large that the entire damn US economy in an entire year can't fix it, an infrastructure that is rapidly decaying to the point where bridges collapse and nobody is alarmed, and an economy about to implode so hard that the entire planet will be farked. The republicans were like fark this and got a senile dodderer and a retarded Barbie wannabe and they still got a good 45% of the vote which shows how stupid people are.

Dinki: Of course they can't. The basic tenet of fundamentalism is that your 'values' are driven by God. Anyone that would compromise those values is obviously going against Gods word. And the GOP has foolishly hitched their wagon to that horse and can't let go.

No politican wants to get kicked out of office. that's hardwired into their brains since as far back as when the first candidate dropped out of the trees and said that his opponent was 'soft on crime'. So i'm wondering if that cynical hardnosed practicality gene is going to override the ideological blinders at some point or if the Republicans will go all Jim Jones on themselves and just wipe themselves out in one big go come midterm elections.

Lionel Mandrake: GOP plan: anoint Rush Limbaugh as leader and soul of the party, and counter a popular President on every piddling detail.

That should turn your numbers around, guys. Great jaerb!

It worked so well from 1993-2000.

Weaver95: Mordant: What the hell are you going to do next ?

blame it all on Obama, then wait for the muslim apocalypse to happen.

what kills me is that there are people who *still* believe that he's the $SecretMuslim!!

Weaver95: eddyatwork: Weaver95: This election was *entirely* run by the fundies.

They wanted to lose. Seriously, Obama has so much crap to clean up that no sane man wanted to be president. Hell, both sides tried to throw the election by having the most unelectable people on the ballot but thanks to the two party system one of them had to win. No matter how awesome he could be, he'll be considered a mediocre president at best because of all of Bush's crap he has to clean up.

I don't know if they wanted to lose, but it sure didn't seem like McCain tried very hard to win. After Obama won the nomination it seemed as if all the fight just went out of McCain.

i still think that mccain threw the election either because he didn't care or out of revenge against the party.

Weaver95: burndtdan: please, they've been trying to compare him to carter since he become the frontrunner in the primaries, and they've been laughed out of the room each time.

The Republicans need to discredit Obama. If they can't blame him for something then there is a chance they'll lose more ground during the midterm elections.

Here's the thing, though - if Obama is right, isn't that the final nail in the Republican coffin? "We were wrong about everything, and now we're unpopular - vote Republican".

vartian: Here's the thing, though - if Obama is right, isn't that the final nail in the Republican coffin? "We were wrong about everything, and now we're unpopular - vote Republican".

It's crazy enough to work. This is the same party that has actually been getting people elected by saying "Government is the enemy, therefore we should be running it".

vartian: Here's the thing, though - if Obama is right, isn't that the final nail in the Republican coffin? "We were wrong about everything, and now we're unpopular - vote Republican".

At this point, they're desperate. sure, they might not publicly admit that Palin was a mistake but in private they know that the fundies are going to be the death of the Republican party. So they're desperate - they can't admit things went badly, and they can't get the fiscal conservatives back without pissing off the fundies. The only real hope for the future of the Republican party is for the economy to completely tank. then they can blame it all on Obama and hope that fear forces people to vote them back into power.

TheAbstractor: Obama to post-ice storm Kentucky: Drop Dead

You are a complete idiot.

I live in Kentucky, right in the middle of this mess. Here's what our local paper had to say about Obama:

President Barack Obama issued a federal emergency disaster declaration for Kentucky and Arkansas late Wednesday. By noon Thursday, 50 generators large enough to power hospitals or water treatment plants arrived at Fort Campbell for distribution.

Gov. Steve Beshear said Thursday during a tour of Western Kentucky that Obama called him about 9 p.m. Wednesday and they spoke for about 10 minutes.

Obama completed the disaster emergency paperwork in less than an hour, Beshear said. Obama signed the declaration after 10:30 p.m. Wednesday. The disaster declaration will bring federal resources and staff to the state.

Source. (new window)

Obama was on the case from day one. You're an asshat.

naive = not invading other countries fast enough.

Weaver95: it's the only reason I can think of to explain why the GOP isn't revising their message or changing their tactics.

Same here. It even appears the fundies are getting worse, as in allowing even less variation in thinking than before.

then they can blame it all on Obama and hope that fear forces people to vote them back into power.

Also have to hope no one mentions that the mess started under Bush etc

Also what's weird is that there's not even a whiff of any talk about what happened. It's like the GOP doesn't even want to acknowledge any gaffes at all.

Huh, and I thought the neo cons were still busy painting him as Joe Stalin or Che Guerra or . . .

[romero]The GOP is betting on Obama failing.[/romero]

Why do you think they entirely opposed the stimulus? If it works they're screwed. If it doesn't work they'll be seen as 'heroes.'
However, they'll be the spin doctors when it comes to whether or not the stimulus works (which is lame).



Keep the the partisan politics GOP.
2010 is going to be a terrible year
for your party.

lundah: It's crazy enough to work. This is the same party that has actually been getting people elected by saying "Government is the enemy, therefore we should be running it".
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I've always found that to be pretty funny.

eddyatwork: This reminds me of my incredibly conservative grandmother who was biatching because he hadn't done anything to improve the economy in an entire week. Uh yeah, eight years of Bush can't be cleaned up overnight you know. The best part is she has guaranteed Social Security and a pension while I am unemployed. Yeah, I feel for her.

So explain:

1993, WTC is bombed. Slick willie tells the American people, "We will get who is responsible." Had NUMEROUS opportunities to eliminate Osama, does nothing. LONG before Sept 11, 2001.

US embassies in Nigeria and Sudan are blown up. Intelligence says that Osama is in a training camp in Afghanistan. Launch missiles? No. Wait until the place is empty.

1996-1998, gets numerous hummers from Monica. The affair comes to light. Let's launch some missiles and bomb Iraq for 'not adhering to the UN stipulations from the Gulf War.'

Reduces NSA and CIA budgets to minimal levels.

Leaves office in 2000 - THANK GOD !!

September 11, 2001 - It's BUSH'S fault that it happened. *rolls eyes

Yea, it took a long time to clean up the mess from 1992 - 2000.

*waves

Snarfangel: Mordant: Tellurianix: To be fair, opposing is kinda the job of the opposition.

Good. Obama is a known proponent of breathing... let the opposition show their dedication at once !

Breathing on land is boring. A true progressive would breath under water.

Breathing on earth has been done, and what happened? We experienced centuries of war and ethnic violence. Since SCUBAs were invented? More war, more violence. A true progressive would pick a third way. Something new, something dynamic, something real.
Breathing in Lava. Has it been tried? Has it been tested? Maybe there's a reason why no one who dived into lava ever wanted to come back.
Empedoclesiastianism (^). An Authentic Third Way.

CheddarPants: TheAbstractor: Obama to post-ice storm Kentucky: Drop Dead

You are a complete idiot.

I live in Kentucky, right in the middle of this mess. Here's what our local paper had to say about Obama:

President Barack Obama issued a federal emergency disaster declaration for Kentucky and Arkansas late Wednesday. By noon Thursday, 50 generators large enough to power hospitals or water treatment plants arrived at Fort Campbell for distribution.

Gov. Steve Beshear said Thursday during a tour of Western Kentucky that Obama called him about 9 p.m. Wednesday and they spoke for about 10 minutes.

Obama completed the disaster emergency paperwork in less than an hour, Beshear said. Obama signed the declaration after 10:30 p.m. Wednesday. The disaster declaration will bring federal resources and staff to the state.

Source. (new window)

Obama was on the case from day one. You're an asshat.

As a Republican, I hope in four years I can compair Obama to Douglas Wilder, the former Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Surprise to you Farkers, Gov. Wilder was a successful and popular governor. Unfortunately for most libs, Gov. Wilder was somewhat of a moderate.

It's a good political strategy that is bound to work on a decent percentage of the population if things fall astray.

Hopefully Obama doesn't falter, President's should be encouraged not belittled.

Weaver95: LESS than two weeks into his administration, President Barack Obama is being portrayed by opponents as a new Jimmy Carter - weak at home and naive abroad - in an attempt to dim his post-election glow and ensure that he serves only one term.

They're getting desperate. Limbaugh was trying to pin all our economic woes on Obama before Obama had even been sworn into office. Now - I have issues with Obma's plans. I think he's going the wrong direction....but I don't blame Obama for things he didn't do. At least give the guy a chance to TRY something before declaring him an utter failure.

He was associated with ACORN so he had a lot to do with it.

WhyteRaven74: Also have to hope no one mentions that the mess started under Bush etc

Also what's weird is that there's not even a whiff of any talk about what happened. It's like the GOP doesn't even want to acknowledge any gaffes at all.

What you pointed out with these two statements are probably the strangest and scariest part of all this. Not just the arrogance and inability to admit to a mistake, which is bad enough. It's the weird and incomprehensible view that automagically all our economic woes are the fault of Obama.

I had a conversation with Dad about this last week. He really does believe that all our problems started with Obama. When I actually pulled up the details of the Bush bailout legislation on my laptop, he just gave me this blank stare....then he quoted Hanity back at me. Dad thinks that all of this was caused by Democrats forcing freddie mae/fanny mac to make bad loans to minority house buyers. And he's rock solid in that belief - he won't waiver from it no matter how high the evidence I pile up in front of him.

He just doesn't want to accept that the Republicans AND banks AND corporations farked us over. They all made mistakes, they all got greedy and they all are forcing US to pay for their mistakes. He just sits on the couch, watching CNN sports while I get ready to pull another back to back 12hr shift to pay the bills....the realization that maybe the reason he's been unemployed for 3 years might have more to do with Bush than Obama completely escapes him.

Republicans must be the only people in this country who are using Jimmy Carter as an example of a bad president these days.

Note to Republicans: the last guy set the bar so low it's laying on the floor.

Lionel Mandrake: GOP plan: anoint Rush Limbaugh as leader and soul of the party, and counter a popular President on every piddling detail.

That should turn your numbers around, guys. Great jaerb!

I came in here to say that Democrats and Obama need to hang Rush on the GOP. Make them all, every elected member of the GOP, stand up and say whether Rush speaks for them or not. A GOP-er dared criticize Rush this week and a day later was reduced to quivering mass, apologizing profusely for daring to speak ill of Rush. It's the only way to make the Republican Party better and make this country better. I, even as a Dem, do not want to live under one party.

US President Barack Obama's offer to talk to Iran shows that America's policy of "domination" has failed, the government spokesman said on Saturday.

"This request means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed," Gholam Hossein Elham was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency.

It certainly fits.
Yes he will be a one termer

We need to take down this two party system. They care more about being right and being in power than doing anything that might be good for the country as a whole. Bunch of bastards.

jpo2269: As a Republican, I hope in four years I can compair Obama to Douglas Wilder, the former Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Surprise to you Farkers, Gov. Wilder was a successful and popular governor. Unfortunately for most libs, Gov. Wilder was somewhat of a moderate.

Obama is a moderate.