I'm an old school Pumpkins fan. While I'm not as rabid for them in the past five years as I was in the 90s, I do still support them. They'll probably always be my "favorite" band.

I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band. But it's really kind of awesome to see that a band who many now dismiss still has the clout to earn a spot in the pre-kickoff Super Bowl commercial in 2009. Call it selling out if you want but everyone is driven by money in the end. Why deny it? The fact is that Hyundai probably had their choice of song/band for their commercial and they picked the Smashing Pumpkins.

If you look on Spin's website, you can see the commercial right now. And the song is cool, and it fits really well with what's going on in the commercial.

Everyone has their price.

I liked the Smashing Pumpkins before they made music. Sellouts.

Here's the commercial/song:

http://www.spin.com/articles/sneak-peek-smashing-pumpkins-super-bowl-song

Scroll down to the bottom.

runfaster21: I'm an old school Pumpkins fan. While I'm not as rabid for them in the past five years as I was in the 90s, I do still support them. They'll probably always be my "favorite" band.

I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band. But it's really kind of awesome to see that a band who many now dismiss still has the clout to earn a spot in the pre-kickoff Super Bowl commercial in 2009. Call it selling out if you want but everyone is driven by money in the end. Why deny it? The fact is that Hyundai probably had their choice of song/band for their commercial and they picked the Smashing Pumpkins.

If you look on Spin's website, you can see the commercial right now. And the song is cool, and it fits really well with what's going on in the commercial.

Do you not find it a wee bit hypocritical of of the band to bash the use of their songs in commercials then change their mind less than a year later?

runfaster21:
I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band.

You must visit the Music tab once a month then. Although many people dislike Smashing Pumpkins, there are TONS more artists and groups that get bashed on Fark more than them.

runfaster21: I'm an old school Pumpkins fan. While I'm not as rabid for them in the past five years as I was in the 90s, I do still support them. They'll probably always be my "favorite" band.

I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band. But it's really kind of awesome to see that a band who many now dismiss still has the clout to earn a spot in the pre-kickoff Super Bowl commercial in 2009. Call it selling out if you want but everyone is driven by money in the end. Why deny it? The fact is that Hyundai probably had their choice of song/band for their commercial and they picked the Smashing Pumpkins.

If you look on Spin's website, you can see the commercial right now. And the song is cool, and it fits really well with what's going on in the commercial.

Most bashed band? Metallica. Silly farkers and their grudges.

Ok yeah, you're right. Metallica gets more hate here.

And my issue isn't with whether they're hypocritical or not. Maybe they are; I couldn't care less. I like their music. My point is that I'm happy they're still relevant after all this time.

What artist in their right mind would say, "No, we don't want to be in the Super Bowl commercial. Thanks but we're more happy to have our artistic integrity." Let's be honest, the Pumpkins aren't exactly getting a ton of mainstream exposure these days. Billy would have been crazy to turn them down.

I Said: I liked the Smashing Pumpkins before they made music. Sellouts.

You wouldn't say that if you'd known Corgan in high school.

/sister-in-law did him
//ex-boss's wife crushed on him in jr. high
///he's an ass

runfaster21: What artist in their right mind would say, "No, we don't want to be in the Super Bowl commercial. Thanks but we're more happy to have our artistic integrity."

A lot of them.

Why?

runfaster21: My point is that I'm happy they're still relevant after all this time.


Let's be honest, the Pumpkins aren't exactly getting a ton of mainstream exposure these days.

these two points conflict.


that Silversun Pickups song sounded better than the new SP.

playblu: ///he's an ass

Lot of musicians are but I still like their tunes.

Smashing Pumpkins can lose their credibility because Billy is prepared

exhibit A)

/scorched earth hot

runfaster21: I'm an old school Pumpkins fan. While I'm not as rabid for them in the past five years as I was in the 90s, I do still support them. They'll probably always be my "favorite" band.

I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band. But it's really kind of awesome to see that a band who many now dismiss still has the clout to earn a spot in the pre-kickoff Super Bowl commercial in 2009. Call it selling out if you want but everyone is driven by money in the end. Why deny it? The fact is that Hyundai probably had their choice of song/band for their commercial and they picked the Smashing Pumpkins.

If you look on Spin's website, you can see the commercial right now. And the song is cool, and it fits really well with what's going on in the commercial.

You don't read the U2 articles, do you?

Obdicut: runfaster21: What artist in their right mind would say, "No, we don't want to be in the Super Bowl commercial. Thanks but we're more happy to have our artistic integrity."

A lot of them.

Why?

Pearl Jam, for one.

moistD: Smashing Pumpkins can lose their credibility because Billy is prepared

exhibit A)

/scorched earth hot

So prepared the group disbanded so he could go solo... and failed.

/SP used to be my favorite band forever

Somebody in the Blabbermouth comments mentioned their bassist Ginger Reyes... good lord, like the fist of an angry god.

Now I know how my Dad felt when "Revolution" was used in a Nike commercial.

/no, I really don't, I don't care nearly as much as he did'
//and no, SP are not The Beatles, I know that

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Is this the band that has the lead singer that sounds like he's always congested?

I don't understand what they mean, and I could really give a fark.

/I need to settle down.

Glitchwerks: runfaster21:
I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band.

You must visit the Music tab once a month then. Although many people dislike Smashing Pumpkins, there are TONS more artists and groups that get bashed on Fark more than them.

Yeah, methinks this is an example of 'Confirmation Bias'

I really like their music, but the buck stops there. Corgan is a pompous ass, who spends more time whining about his fans and insecurities than any other artist to date. Someone should read the latest Spin article on them. Corgan's a big whiney baby.

What gets me is not the fact they're selling out, but the fact that their stupid asses sues Virgin not long ago claiming selling their songs was a loss of creditability.

/What a farking 2-bit twatsky

Eshman: What gets me is not the fact they're selling out, but the fact that their stupid asses sues Virgin not long ago claiming selling their songs was a loss of creditability.

You know damn well that Virgin is taking note and now has precedence on their side; expect to see a Crystal Lite commercial with "Today" or "Disarm" playing in the background...

RoxtarRyan: Is this the band that has the lead singer that sounds like he's always congested every other line?

A phenomenon best illustrated by Stephen Lynch....

What If That Guy From Smashing Pumpkins Lost His Car Keys?^

Like their stuff in general but yeah Billy's kinda of a douche.

It's his music, let him do with it what he wants. Even if it his hypocritical, I don't look to Billy Corgan for life lessons or morality.

Speaking as a child of the 90's.

The only thing I like about the Smashing Pumpkins is the name of the band.

Uh...maybe he just likes hyundai?
Like, if he's writing a song for a product he personally likes and believes in, is it selling out?

hecticthe13th: Uh...maybe he just likes hyundai?
Like, if he's writing a song for a product he personally likes and believes in, is it selling out?

How are people gonna know it's a Hyundai if there's no H?

Stompn_Tom: Do you not find it a wee bit hypocritical of of the band to bash the use of their songs in commercials then change their mind less than a year later?

Virgin records gave permission for that song to be used in the commercial a year ago.

They decided to use this song for this commercial.

There is a difference between the band making that decision and some suit at the label making that decision for the band.

/would be pissed too

Bondidude: Stompn_Tom: Do you not find it a wee bit hypocritical of of the band to bash the use of their songs in commercials then change their mind less than a year later?

Virgin records gave permission for that song to be used in the commercial a year ago.

They decided to use this song for this commercial.

There is a difference between the band making that decision and some suit at the label making that decision for the band.

/would be pissed too

If what you say is true, then he's a douche of a different color.

The right to use songs in advertising doesn't belong to bands or labels. It belongs to songwriters. Performances of songs belong to bands. If what you've said is accurate, he would have to have signed over BOTH publishing & performance rights to his label.

Given the well-known number of people in music who've ended up penniless after selling their rights, you'd have to be a real Wentzbag to have agreed to that while you're still making money.

madmann: Bondidude: Stompn_Tom: Do you not find it a wee bit hypocritical of of the band to bash the use of their songs in commercials then change their mind less than a year later?

Virgin records gave permission for that song to be used in the commercial a year ago.

They decided to use this song for this commercial.

There is a difference between the band making that decision and some suit at the label making that decision for the band.

/would be pissed too

If what you say is true, then he's a douche of a different color.

The right to use songs in advertising doesn't belong to bands or labels. It belongs to songwriters. Performances of songs belong to bands. If what you've said is accurate, he would have to have signed over BOTH publishing & performance rights to his label.

Given the well-known number of people in music who've ended up penniless after selling their rights, you'd have to be a real Wentzbag to have agreed to that while you're still making money.

FTA:
Ironically, it was just 10 months ago - in March of 2008 - that the SMASHING PUMPKINS slapped former label Virgin Records with a lawsuit, claiming that the company used the PUMPKINS' name and music in a promotional campaign for Pepsi that supposedly damaged the group's credibility.

Frontman Billy Corgan said in a statement at the time, "We fought hard for the right to be in control of how our music is used, to avoid situations like this kind of crass commercialism and exploitation," adding that the use of the band's music in the Pepsi campaign threatened their "artistic integrity."

Label used music without their permission, so they sued.

Sounds more like business than anything else to me.

Not defending Corgan, I think he is a bit of a Wentz, but for different reasons. This wouldn't be the first time TSP have sold out (Batman and Robin anyone?). It's just different when they're not the ones making the decisions.

there does seem to be a lot of Pumpkins hate. i don't get it. Granted, i only know one tune, and i don't even know the name of it, but its still an excellent song.

Bondidude
madmann: Bondidude: Stompn_Tom: Do you not find it a wee bit hypocritical of of the band to bash the use of their songs in commercials then change their mind less than a year later?

Virgin records gave permission for that song to be used in the commercial a year ago.

They decided to use this song for this commercial.

There is a difference between the band making that decision and some suit at the label making that decision for the band.

/would be pissed too

If what you say is true, then he's a douche of a different color.

The right to use songs in advertising doesn't belong to bands or labels. It belongs to songwriters. Performances of songs belong to bands. If what you've said is accurate, he would have to have signed over BOTH publishing & performance rights to his label.

Given the well-known number of people in music who've ended up penniless after selling their rights, you'd have to be a real Wentzbag to have agreed to that while you're still making money.

FTA:
Ironically, it was just 10 months ago - in March of 2008 - that the SMASHING PUMPKINS slapped former label Virgin Records with a lawsuit, claiming that the company used the PUMPKINS' name and music in a promotional campaign for Pepsi that supposedly damaged the group's credibility.

Frontman Billy Corgan said in a statement at the time, "We fought hard for the right to be in control of how our music is used, to avoid situations like this kind of crass commercialism and exploitation," adding that the use of the band's music in the Pepsi campaign threatened their "artistic integrity."

Label used music without their permission, so they sued.

Sounds more like business than anything else to me.

Not defending Corgan, I think he is a bit of a Wentz, but for different reasons. This wouldn't be the first time TSP have sold out (Batman and Robin anyone?). It's just different when they're not the ones making the decisions.

Batman and Robin is easily the worst movie of the nineties, but the two songs the Smashing Pumpkins contributed were flat out awesome.

/same goes for the song on the Lost Highway soundtrack but I doubt anyone would biatch about that

runfaster21: I'm an old school Pumpkins fan. While I'm not as rabid for them in the past five years as I was in the 90s, I do still support them. They'll probably always be my "favorite" band.

I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band.

Creed, and, especially Nickelback say 'hi'.

madmann: RoxtarRyan: Is this the band that has the lead singer that sounds like he's always congested every other line?

A phenomenon best illustrated by Stephen Lynch....

What If That Guy From Smashing Pumpkins Lost His Car Keys?^

I couldn't name a SP song if my life depended on it, but that was funny as hell.

tedbundee: Obdicut: runfaster21: What artist in their right mind would say, "No, we don't want to be in the Super Bowl commercial. Thanks but we're more happy to have our artistic integrity."

A lot of them.

Why?

Pearl Jam, for one.

Fugazi.

Siamese Dream is a great record. The rest of them...not so much

I'm the first? Really?

Gish = good album

All The Rest = bombastic farce


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runfaster21: I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band.

More than Rush? You're joking, right?

Anyway, my feeling toward the Pumpkins are that Gish is great, Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot and much of Mellon Collie are really good and after that the band went to complete and total shiat.

/and yes, Adore is an abomination

runfaster21: I'm an old school Pumpkins fan. While I'm not as rabid for them in the past five years as I was in the 90s, I do still support them. They'll probably always be my "favorite" band.

I swear the Pumpkins and Billy Corgan in particular have more negative submissions on Fark's music tab than any other band. But it's really kind of awesome to see that a band who many now dismiss still has the clout to earn a spot in the pre-kickoff Super Bowl commercial in 2009. Call it selling out if you want but everyone is driven by money in the end. Why deny it? The fact is that Hyundai probably had their choice of song/band for their commercial and they picked the Smashing Pumpkins.

If you look on Spin's website, you can see the commercial right now. And the song is cool, and it fits really well with what's going on in the commercial.

The point is how pissed off Corrigan was about his music going to Pepsi, because it's selling out. He's already long sold out, and then he sells out again. Selling out is not a bad thing, but it is when you do it, and get pissy with people about it.

Stompn_Tom: Do you not find it a wee bit hypocritical of of the band to bash the use of their songs in commercials then change their mind less than a year later?

Also, what about in the Watchmen trailer? Or did they stop using that because Corrigan threw a 3-year-old-like-temper-tantrum?