Silly man, "they" started minting Ameros in Denver in the fall of 2007.

Everybody knows that. Link (new window)

Now, off to the camps with you.

GoodCopBadCop: Silly man, "they" started minting Ameros in Denver in the fall of 2007.

Everybody knows that. Link (new window)

Now, off to the camps with you.

You're being facetious, right? Sometimes, irony and sarcasm get lost in text.

Mexico would need to drastically change politically and economically before the Amero was to ever have chance of happening.

Has anyone bothered to notice that in the last sixty or so years -- my lifetime -- no government has ever admitted the existence of a recession until it was over?

This is not, repeat not, a recession. This goes a bit deeper.

Let's just institute a global currency. Or how about a solar system currency- why leave out the Martians!

If they also include a provision that says hot Mexican women must have sex with me on demand, then I will accept it.

oldebayer: Has anyone bothered to notice that in the last sixty or so years -- my lifetime -- no government has ever admitted the existence of a recession until it was over?

This is not, repeat not, a recession. This goes a bit deeper.

I remember talk of recession being all over the news in the 1992 Presidential campaign.

Life will go on...

Why not unite North, Central and South America, and toss in the UK, Ireland, NZ and Australia? We could call it...oh,I don't know...how does "Oceania" sound?

Etchy333: oldebayer: Has anyone bothered to notice that in the last sixty or so years -- my lifetime -- no government has ever admitted the existence of a recession until it was over?

This is not, repeat not, a recession. This goes a bit deeper.

I remember talk of recession being all over the news in the 1992 Presidential campaign.

The early 90s recession was over in 1991, according to the folks at the NEBR.

How does melding our currency with shiat-ass Mexico help both Canada and America?

sloppy shoes: Let's just institute a global currency. Or how about a solar system currency- why leave out the Martians!

A Solo?

hot as slave-Leia Munn...

bmr68: Mexico would need to drastically change politically and economically before the Amero was to ever have chance of happening.

THIS. Canada and America could adopt a common currency if we harmonized some monetary policy, and it would extremely beneficial considering we put more trade between Windsor/Detroit than Germany and France.

Of course, Americans would have to accept that Getty Lee on a denomination no higher than 50 dollars.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: sloppy shoes: Let's just institute a global currency. Or how about a solar system currency- why leave out the Martians!

A Solo?

hot as slave-Leia Munn...

Brother can you han me a Solo?

/got nuttin'

Britney Spear's Speculum: How does melding our currency with shiat-ass Mexico help both Canada and America?

Relaxation of trade restriction and increased access to natural resources in the North and labor resources to the South. This would help to resolve trade deficits with the rest of the world by giving the US access to new resources for export and providing a cheap labor force for increasing manufacturing production. Joined by a common currency, all restrictions that existed to preserve the local economies of each of the three nations will have to evaporate.

These fundamental benefits could easily be offset by maintaining the same "infinite exponential expansion" mindset of the West. Enhanced by the much more dramatic economic ebb and flow of increased globalization of economic power, this unsustainable philosophy would just create a greater economic tsunami for the next bust.

/adjusts tinfoil hat

sloppy shoes: Let's just institute a global currency. Or how about a solar system currency- why leave out the Martians!

We have one already. It's called gold.

Walkenstein: I wonder if someone can answer me this


why do we continue to mock "tin-foilers" "tr00fers",etc when far too much of their claims and revelatory material placed forth= ends up being a reality soon enough ?


for the thousands of years we've had unorthodox thinkers and inquisitive minds be it writers, scientists, doctors, painters, musicians, conspiracy theorists,etc,etc... They have always been referred to as and called the usual "mad geniuses" and "nuts" and "crazy folk" and "lunatics" etc,etc


the amusing thing to me is considering the source of these insults, the majority of these naysayers and pseudo-skeptics ended up being wrong and the "wackjobs" are often correct in foretelling the grim realities at hand or the inevitable future.


are they super duper time travelers, aliens or religious prophets? Not likely, but I think it's more evidence and proof that the masses have been extremely flawed and foolish people that so often fall victim to their primitive psychological and sociological trappings that keep them from evolving in communication, logic and reasoning. A select amount from any time period and area are able to break beyond such trappings and with their superior "gift(s)" help to enlighten themselves and others around them on true reality, but the status quo continues to be mostly complacent and foolish while allowing history to repeat itself ad infinitum .



people can try to refute this all they want, but the whole of history and thousands of pieces of psychological and sociological evidence automatically renders their rebuttal useless and invalid.

The bold makes your argument much more convincing.

Walkenstein: people can try to refute this all they want, but the whole of history and thousands of pieces of psychological and sociological evidence automatically renders their rebuttal useless and invalidI'm just going to say LA-LA-LA--LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! i CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!.

log_jammin: Walkenstein: people can try to refute this all they want, but the whole of history and thousands of pieces of psychological and sociological evidence automatically renders their rebuttal useless and invalidI'm just going to say LA-LA-LA--LA-LA-LA-LA-LA! i CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!.

Just FYI.... I thought you should know that I saw What_Would_Jimi_Do in a thread earlier.

/ll.;

Why don't Americans just use Canadian dollars once the USD is destroyed?

That way you don't have to worry about the replacement currency crashing in 30 years

sarcastrophe: Just FYI.... I thought you should know that I saw What_Would_Jimi_Do in a thread earlier.

Next thread of the night. Charlie Wilson builds a land bridge to Siberia funded by the Amero

"amero"? Is that like a taco but made with bleached white flour?

that_other_internet: Relaxation of trade restriction and increased access to natural resources in the North and labor resources to the South. This would help to resolve trade deficits with the rest of the world by giving the US access to new resources for export and providing a cheap labor force for increasing manufacturing production. Joined by a common currency, all restrictions that existed to preserve the local economies of each of the three nations will have to evaporate.

These fundamental benefits could easily be offset by maintaining the same "infinite exponential expansion" mindset of the West. Enhanced by the much more dramatic economic ebb and flow of increased globalization of economic power, this unsustainable philosophy would just create a greater economic tsunami for the next bust.

/adjusts tinfoil hat

So should I be filled with irrational exuberance?

AndyMan1 what you've just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

/overused, but seemed appropriate in this case

I'd love to be in a fixed-parity, open-trade situation with Canada. We would probably both benefit from it economically, though I'm not sure how willing Canada would be to tie its future to our own that dramatically. Likewise, I sincerely doubt neither Canada nor the USA wants to be tied that closely to the amount of destitution and corruption currently in Mexico. Their southern provinces are mostly in the hands of rebels - if they can't manage internal political coherency, they can't guarantee a stable currency and they can't guarantee that any united currency would not be sunk by their instability.

If the nations of North America start investing significant effort into getting Mexico into a closer-to-parity state of stability and governance, then I might believe this as possible... but no first world nation is going to join itself at the hip to the mess south of the border willingly.

You do know that the total acceptance of Amero lead to a possible acceptance of Spanish as an co-official language in USA in the federal level.

Drakkenmaw: If the nations of North America start investing significant effort into getting Mexico into a closer-to-parity state of stability and governance, then I might believe this as possible... but no first world nation is going to join itself at the hip to the mess south of the border willingly.

I wonder if legalizing certain drugs would help with the problem of the Mexico's stability

SweetHomeNowhere: You do know that the total acceptance of Amero lead to a possible acceptance of Spanish as an co-official language in USA in the federal level.

I live in Newport, Rhode Island for fark sake and I have to speak Spanish to 20% of my customers.

Learn it, get over it.

They spend money, it's all good.

ProdigalSigh , I think you meant Walkenstein, not AndyMan1.
AndyMan1 was just impressed by the open bold tag.
Walkenstein impressed us all with his cognitive abilities and supports the Coast to Coast historical series.

AndyMan1:

The bold makes your argument much more convincing.


sometimes I type certain things in ways that will catch the attention and eye of the typical dolt and American retard on Fark.

It's amusing on how I've seen a statement like yours countless times on fark, and usually near verbatim.

Jal-co-za: rodigalSigh , I think you meant Walkenstein, not AndyMan1.

Ah, you're correct and I'm tired. My apologies to AndyMan1 and my sincerest hopes of psychiatric care for Walkenstein.

ProdigalSigh: AndyMan1 what you've just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

/overused, but seemed appropriate in this case


a baseless claim that makes you look mentally ill or dumb for denying such common knowledge.


I may not be of their caliber, but I don't usually say anything on Fark that countless geniuses throughout the centuries haven't stated before me.

I'd reckon the lot of them and the diverse variety of personalities among them= superior to 95% of anything said on Fark

Walkenstein: Okay. Here's my question, simply stated. Why would Canada agree to be tied to Mexico? Let's cut the United States out of the equation all together. What benefits would these two countries gain from an economic union?

I really don't think the people who have thought of this have actually considered the perspectives of the other nations involved in their theory. Since they would have to be willing partners for this to work, what constructive gain would they get from such an agreement?

The Amero wouldn't help the dollar. Maybe a yen /dollar or yuan / dollar combo?

What has been the strongest currency in the last 6 months? The Yen, followed by the dollar.

Stop freaking out. Look at the euro and pound if you want to panic. Britain is close to collapse, as is all of Europe.

NewportBarGuy: SweetHomeNowhere: You do know that the total acceptance of Amero lead to a possible acceptance of Spanish as an co-official language in USA in the federal level.

I live in Newport, Rhode Island for fark sake and I have to speak Spanish to 20% of my customers.

Learn it, get over it.



I live in Providence, heh......want to switch spots?


I don't agree with the cryptoracist undertones and sheer ignorance of the American masses when it comes to the "illegal" immigrant issue or even minorities born in the US. I also loathe the ignorance regarding social services/funding, how they are obtained and what portion of each workers taxes are appropriated for such( or anything for that matter, seeing most americans are clueless over how their tax contributions are allocated and spent), but I don't exactly agree with your statement either.

Please explain to me in a logical manner why it should be mandatory or expected of Americans to learn Spanish. It could be useful sure , but it's asinine to force someone to cater to someone at such a degree. I doubt there is any non-English speaking country whose indigenous inhabitants would cater to Americans in such a way other than for business or public relations.

Remove all Republicans: Walkenstein: why do we continue to mock "tin-foilers" "tr00fers",etc when far too much of their claims and revelatory material placed forth= ends up being a reality soon enough ?

I mock them because they don't understand the beauty of awesome power that comes from having a single worldwide organization deciding policy. Once that is settled, then we as a world can move on and perhaps the aliens following around us will realize that we are worthy of their advanced technology. That's the way it always works in the movies.



"troofers", "Rondroids" "Randtards",etc aside

have you ever read any credible material written by highly respected writers on the difference between neo-con (power liberals) version of "Globalization" and the Globalization that seeks harmony and interdependence on large scale?

Sure "Globalization" is a great goal, but the world runs on a mostly corrupt and clusterfark of unfettered and power capitalism that's foundation was and continues to be comprised of exploited workers or outright slavery. We can't do very much to change this overnight, and things continue to support such a model, so how the fark are we to ever advance past this stage?


When has history ever not repeated itself?

have the events that led up to and caused the failures and changes of D.C politics since Nixon and subsequent current economic depression not occurred in our history before?

is there not a cult of personality with Obama?

When have Americans ever been truly pro-active in political affairs enough to count?

Walkenstein: Please explain to me in a logical manner why it should be mandatory or expected of Americans to learn Spanish. It could be useful sure , but it's asinine to force someone to cater to someone at such a degree. I doubt there is any non-English speaking country whose indigenous inhabitants would cater to Americans in such a way other than for business or public relations.

Never said mandatory. It's just good business. Bush was right on illegal immigration and how to make them citizens. It's one of the only things I agreed on him with. These people come in, cash in hand, and want to give it to me. YES I want it.

You don't HAVE to learn, but it makes it easier. There is no requirement. Get some language tapes from the library for free, teach yourself. You only need about 4-5 phrases. And to understand the response.

You can get me drunk enough to screw a fat chick, crash a car, buy an extended warranty. No way you'll get me drunk enough to join the US. Never.

Phil Moskowitz: You can get me drunk enough to screw a fat chick, crash a car, buy an extended warranty. No way you'll get me drunk enough to join the US. Never.

Than STFU about our politics lest we invade you again. Yes, it would be different from the last time. If you couldn't tell, we're in crisis mode and the result DOES include your country.

Look at your largest trading partner numbers... OMG!

There you go.

NewportBarGuy: Walkenstein: Please explain to me in a logical manner why it should be mandatory or expected of Americans to learn Spanish. It could be useful sure , but it's asinine to force someone to cater to someone at such a degree. I doubt there is any non-English speaking country whose indigenous inhabitants would cater to Americans in such a way other than for business or public relations.


anything that Bush supposed "did" that was "good" = either a manipulation move or intentionally left alone

this nation has a history of the elite having each person look down on the person below them in each income bracket/or demographic. It's the true and real "trickle down effect", and helped to make it easier for the elite to kick the chair out from under the Middle Class at the most opportune time. After all, the "middle class" was only created by the elite in order to create a higher serf class, obtaining more work from them and investing into the stock market, of which the poor on average have never been able to do.

and the middle class ends up looking like the biggest fools in the end. From World War 2 and on, the middle class was built up, brainwashed and conditioned to work harder, put more money into the stock market, keep having more babies, keep consuming, the american dream rah rah rah....and what happened?


Nixon started the routine, Carter was mildly retarded, but Reagan put everything into motion to open up the floodgates for ultimate greed and sociopathy at the best time. Then over time the middle class were to pay more and more taxes while working more and more hours while doing more and more work within each hour........


then something even more amusing happened. The reality that which is " oh fark, now I have to get a second job, or my wife has to get part time or even full time job!"

followed by " oh shiat, I want to kill myself, my wife and I are overworked and we can't even afford the day care for our only child.....oh and we're in debt, we only have 15 more years to pay off our mortgage,my 401k won't support me when I retire, everything was a lie and we've been farked up the ass,etc,etc"


granted it's not all the typical americans' fault, for they've been cultivated to be complacent, ignorant and "consumers". It's certainly no coincidence that our education system and testing scores are so dismal as compared to the top industrialized countries in our tier.

Never said mandatory. It's just good business. Bush was right on illegal immigration and how to make them citizens. It's one of the only things I agreed on him with. These people come in, cash in hand, and want to give it to me. YES I want it.

You don't HAVE to learn, but it makes it easier. There is no requirement. Get some language tapes from the library for free, teach yourself. You only need about 4-5 phrases. And to understand the response.

disregard the last paragraph in my last post. for some reason my text ended up sandwiched between the text from Newportguy

Walkenstein: disregard the last paragraph in my last post. for some reason my text ended up sandwiched between the text from Newportguy

You need to figure out how not to put everything in italics, but that's OK.

Just highlight the text you want with your mouse and hit the "" button next to the name at the header of the post.

I can't understand so much because it's all blended together, but I think you are saying it started under Reagan, and yes it did.

That was when Gordon Gekko was introduced. It was not a character but a theory. Now $1.2 quadrillion dollars later we go, what?

Relax, we're fine. The Fed and Treas. will buy the bad debt. We can just never make this mistake again and we have to pay it off. Tax hikes will be HUGE.

NewportBarGuy: What has been the strongest currency in the last 6 months? The Yen, followed by the dollar.

Stop freaking out. Look at the euro and pound if you want to panic. Britain is close to collapse, as is all of Europe.



you do realize that it would be extremely bad for any major country to have an economic crash right now......right?


other than this, our biggest concern should be

1.)restructuring our government

2.) getting any rich motherfarker out of major politics,

3.) repealing the Taft-Hartley act ( among others)

4.) killing most "for profit" healthcare/energy/college systems

5.) bringing back American exports and industry

6.) crushing most corporations

7.)new tax system

8.) education

9.) better mental health services and awareness

10.) sex education

11.) bye bye major religious influence ( this will take time :) )

12.) mental health screening for all politicians

13.) kill full profit privately owned prisons

14.) kill half of our military industrial complex, including no-bid contracts and other war profiteer connections

15.)some form of liberal eugenics

16.)restructuring of nafta agreements

17.)cap on politician pay and investments

18.)disband from Israels personal affairs

19.) break from American isolationism and pro-american imperialism

20.)livable wage and/or justified wage for all workersfark I should be president, because I bet any amount of money that Obama won't even fulfill half of the things listed

NewportBarGuy: Walkenstein: disregard the last paragraph in my last post. for some reason my text ended up sandwiched between the text from Newportguy

You need to figure out how not to put everything in italics, but that's OK.

Just highlight the text you want with your mouse and hit the "" button next to the name at the header of the post.

I can't understand so much because it's all blended together, but I think you are saying it started under Reagan, and yes it did.

That was when Gordon Gekko was introduced. It was not a character but a theory. Now $1.2 quadrillion dollars later we go, what?

Relax, we're fine. The Fed and Treas. will buy the bad debt. We can just never make this mistake again and we have to pay it off. Tax hikes will be HUGE.



it's not me, I didn't put that post in italics ( must be firefox acting assish )


first off though, no, it didn't start with Reagan, and it didn't even start with the Federal Reserve , however these two things made it even worse for many reasons. The fed= us treasury, and the Fed buying up "debt" is all an illusion as a temporary fix to our situation.

The Fed is not our savior, they are a private bank institution that loans non existent money to the treasury with interest. Who do you think pays for this interest? We do, and the way the Fed and our monetary system is set up, we are forever indebted to the Fed and will NEVER be able to pay them back.


did you know that in addition to each american citizen born being born into this mess, each person alive has at least 160,000 floating debt over their head.


petty arguments and conflicting beliefs aside, every American citizen is a slave in the form of serfs.