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(Canada.com) Obvious Obesity called "America's epidemic." You would have submitted this with a funnier headline, but your fingers were still greasy from eating those sticks of butter for lunch   (canada.com) divider line 230
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Bonkthat_Again [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 12:32:14 PM  
Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time

 
cambie [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 12:47:30 PM  
Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time


Thanks Michael Pollan.

Kidding. I do tend to agree.

 
lozzd [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 12:57:45 PM  
Isn't this old news?

 
brigid_fitch [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:02:07 PM  
Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time


3) Increased abundance of "Dollar Menus"

And just for fun, I'd like to see an overlay of areas w/largest percentage of obesity vs. proximity to a WalMart.

/There's GOT to be a reason why all the fatties flock to WalMart...

 
Shostie [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:13:35 PM  
brigid_fitch: Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time

3) Increased abundance of "Dollar Menus"

And just for fun, I'd like to see an overlay of areas w/largest percentage of obesity vs. proximity to a WalMart.

/There's GOT to be a reason why all the fatties flock to WalMart...


4) Decrease in the number of people who know how to cook

 
badgerb [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:15:17 PM  
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SphericalTime [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:16:04 PM  
You forgot the lard flavored milkshake and deep fried grease balls that I had on the side, subby.

 
Outlaw_Rudy [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:36:07 PM  
Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time The inverse function of number of pirates worldwide over time


FTFY

 
PacersJAM3s 2009-01-25 01:38:18 PM  
Last night I had a Tendercrisp chicken sandwich, 2 Whopper jrs, a large fry, and a large Coke for dinner.

Top that submitter!

/Wait, I'm supposed to feel bad about this, right?

 
eddyatwork [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:47:10 PM  
I'm going to SIT on you submitter!

 
brigid_fitch [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 01:48:46 PM  
Shostie: 4) DeIncrease in the number of people who know how are too farking lazy to cook

FTFY. There's no one who DOESN'T know how to cook. If you can farking read, you can follow a recipe. It's not that hard.

/Made lamb ragu & rigatoni (new window) for dinner last night. Awesome, cheap, and easy as hell.

 
Aarontology [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 02:04:07 PM  
FTA: the stigma surrounding obesity and belief that it is not a disease are keeping the government from addressing the crisis.

"At the root of this is that people still have a real problem thinking about obesity as anything other than a willpower issue," said Ferguson. "It is still perfectly acceptable to think about excluding treatment."


This is where I find an issue. While I agree that obesity is a disease, it's a disease in the same sort of way that addiction is a disease. You don't just suddenly come down with obesity, like you can with cancer or any other number of diseases. It all depends on what the person decides to do with their body and what they decide to put into it. I'm sure there are people out there with slow metablolisms or other legitimate reasons why they would put on more weight, and have trouble getting rid of it, than most people.

And to say that the government doesn't do much about it, is also somewhat false. Given that the government can't really regulate what people eat without infringing too much on people's personal freedom, their hands are tied. They can promote healthy lifestyles through information campaigns and so on. Whenever a city or state tries to ban some food product, like trans fats and so on, there's always an uproar about the government getting too involved with our lives. From my reading, it seems that the doctor in the article is biatching more that various state programs won't cover those stomach surgeries, rather than any sort of meaningful complaint.

But going back a little bit, if obesity is a true disease like cancer, wouldn't the rates have been relatively consistent over time, and across the world where there are similar living standards? By trying to pass it off as a real disease it can give people a sense of justification for their obscenely unhealthy lifestyles and lack of desire to do the hard work and get back into shape.

 
Je5tEr 2009-01-25 04:23:28 PM  
Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time


Check out that compared to average breast size and onset of puberty in girls. Never saw D's on girls when I was in high school.

 
captain_heroic44 2009-01-25 04:23:55 PM  
Big deal. Canada is called "America's hat."

 
Gosling [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 04:25:13 PM  
Mmmmm. Double cheese Butterburger basket.

 
Huskadoodle 2009-01-25 04:25:37 PM  
Yes, this picture from the 1950's is proof that no one was ever overweight until now.

www.rallytwin.com

 
mr0x 2009-01-25 04:26:41 PM  
Bonkthat_Again:
Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time


It wouldn't help since correlation does not imply causation.

 
Charlotte 2009-01-25 04:27:57 PM  
Why does no one ever link obesity to the number of working parents out there?

Spend 10 hours on your feet, working for minimum wage at a soul-killing job, and see how ready or even able you are to prepare a delicious and nutritious meal.

This is 90% of the problem. Simple as that. Anyone blaming artificial sweeteners or antibiotics or hormones as the primary cause of obesity is a damn tool.

 
Ooshatielf [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 04:29:42 PM  
Having worked at a 50's diner, I can say that if people stopped ordering Chicken fried Chicken with Sausage Gravy and drinking 5 large cokes, and maybe ordered the oatmeal once in a while, this problem might not be as bad as it is.

 
Smeggy Smurf 2009-01-25 04:29:52 PM  
I link the lardassification of America to the rise of overly abundant leisure activities and the general pussification of everybody.

Before kids spent all their time inside playing video games they had to go outside and find new and exciting ways to hurt themselves. Before 1985 there was typically only one fat kid in your class. We made fun of him, beat him up regularly and pounded the hell out of him in dodgeball. Now there is no dodgeball. The precious little snowflakes must be protected from everything.

I'm not blaming video games. I'm blaming the parents that won't kick the kids outside regardless of the weather. It's raining? Good, go plug up the stormdrains to make huge puddles to race your bike through. It's snowing? Go sledding. Have a snowball fight. Go make obscene snowmen on the front lawn of your school.

/fark worthless chickenshiat parents

 
Huskadoodle 2009-01-25 04:31:25 PM  
Charlotte: Spend 10 hours on your feet, working for minimum wage at a soul-killing job, and see how ready or even able you are to prepare a delicious and nutritious meal.

OH MY GOD!!!! Work = Overweight

WHY COULD WE NOT SEE THIS EARLIER???? We are working our selves into an obese early grave.

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:32:00 PM  
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GungFu 2009-01-25 04:32:19 PM  
America ---> (______________*_______________)

 
bearded clamorer 2009-01-25 04:32:22 PM  
Obesity takes a back seat to stupidity in the hierarchy of U.S. epidemics.

 
Charlotte 2009-01-25 04:32:42 PM  
Oh, Fark. Wrong and wrong.

 
Stay Cool Babylon 2009-01-25 04:32:54 PM  
What, you mean that our automobile-based culture that resulted in the proliferation of drive-thru, limited human interaction grease traps on every suburban corner has had a detrimental effect on our health?

What did we expect? This is the same culture that will drive into a strip mall and spend 5 minutes looking for a space that's 30 seconds closer to the door. After shopping at the one store, they'll spend another five minutes looking for a space in front of the other store instead of just walking there. Our meals are handed to us from trained drones in exchange for peanuts, and even the Olympics are sponsored by empty-calorie fast-fast-fast culture.


www.filmdope.com

 
Mother's Bloody Sperm 2009-01-25 04:33:04 PM  
Je5tEr: Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time

Check out that compared to average breast size and onset of puberty in girls. Never saw D's on girls when I was in high school.


uhhh... there's more to big boobies than just hormones...

Average breast size in Japan and Korea have also been increasing, and yeah it's diet related. Doesn't mean they're hopped up on preservatives and hormones.

34 B is the average American breast size for women who haven't had their breasts surgically augmented. Sounds about right.

 
Oldiron_79 2009-01-25 04:33:33 PM  
Smeggy Smurf: I link the lardassification of America to the rise of overly abundant leisure activities and the general pussification of everybody.

Before kids spent all their time inside playing video games they had to go outside and find new and exciting ways to hurt themselves. Before 1985 there was typically only one fat kid in your class. We made fun of him, beat him up regularly and pounded the hell out of him in dodgeball. Now there is no dodgeball. The precious little snowflakes must be protected from everything.

I'm not blaming video games. I'm blaming the parents that won't kick the kids outside regardless of the weather. It's raining? Good, go plug up the stormdrains to make huge puddles to race your bike through. It's snowing? Go sledding. Have a snowball fight. Go make obscene snowmen on the front lawn of your school.

/fark worthless chickenshiat parents


THIS

 
mr0x 2009-01-25 04:33:39 PM  
Aarontology: FTA: the stigma surrounding obesity and belief that it is not a disease are keeping the government from addressing the crisis.

"At the root of this is that people still have a real problem thinking about obesity as anything other than a willpower issue," said Ferguson. "It is still perfectly acceptable to think about excluding treatment."

This is where I find an issue. While I agree that obesity is a disease, it's a disease in the same sort of way that addiction is a disease. You don't just suddenly come down with obesity, like you can with cancer or any other number of diseases. It all depends on what the person decides to do with their body and what they decide to put into it. I'm sure there are people out there with slow metablolisms or other legitimate reasons why they would put on more weight, and have trouble getting rid of it, than most people.

And to say that the government doesn't do much about it, is also somewhat false. Given that the government can't really regulate what people eat without infringing too much on people's personal freedom, their hands are tied. They can promote healthy lifestyles through information campaigns and so on. Whenever a city or state tries to ban some food product, like trans fats and so on, there's always an uproar about the government getting too involved with our lives. From my reading, it seems that the doctor in the article is biatching more that various state programs won't cover those stomach surgeries, rather than any sort of meaningful complaint.

But going back a little bit, if obesity is a true disease like cancer, wouldn't the rates have been relatively consistent over time, and across the world where there are similar living standards? By trying to pass it off as a real disease it can give people a sense of justification for their obscenely unhealthy lifestyles and lack of desire to do the hard work and get back into shape.


If you took differential equations math class, one of the topics is that a lot of such equations (which are very useful in modeling real life stuff) tend not to be linear. Thus, small changes in your input could lead to huge changes in output.

A small regulation by the government, for example, to ban certain items or subsidize certain items could lead to drastic changes. With the cancer example, the smoking bans in public places have led lowering of lung cancer.

Also, the rate of obesity is a multi-dimensional problem. The living standard isn't the only factor that affect obesity levels.

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:33:39 PM  
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/relax, mods - it's a guy.
//this photo was taken from yahoo news

 
Plastic Trash Vortex 2009-01-25 04:34:26 PM  
We should feed the fatties to the bags of antlers until an equilibrium is reached.

 
Jubeebee 2009-01-25 04:34:40 PM  
Bonkthat_Again: Just curious, has anyone placed the following charts on top of each other?

1) The obesity rate in America over time
2) The use of hormones and preservatives, as a function of introduction into the market over time


I did, but the obesity rate in America chart completely flattened the use of hormones chart.

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:34:49 PM  
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Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:35:55 PM  
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wydok 2009-01-25 04:37:15 PM  
People are obese because they eat more calories than they burn. Regardless of the Wal-Marts or hormones or government conspiracies. It's a social disorder. We spend too much time doing "other things" that we just shove our faces with fast food and don't exercise.

I'm one of these people. I KNOW why I am fat. I don't blame Purdue Chicken or the fluoride in my water. I eat too much and don't exercise enough. Period.

But I'm changing that :P

 
He_Hate_Me 2009-01-25 04:37:35 PM  
brigid_fitch: Shostie: 4) DeIncrease in the number of people who know how are too farking lazy to cook

FTFY. There's no one who DOESN'T know how to cook. If you can farking read, you can follow a recipe. It's not that hard.

/Made lamb ragu & rigatoni (new window) for dinner last night. Awesome, cheap, and easy as hell.


Why use overpriced lamb when you can use sausage instead? Delicious and MUCH cheaper.

 
TheMiddleFinger 2009-01-25 04:37:58 PM  
Health care costs due to obesity per year are $78 billion. Health care costs for smoking per year, are $72 billion. One is heavily taxed, one isn't. America the free?

Link (new window)

Link (new window)

Bring on the fat taxes! It's only fair.....

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:38:31 PM  
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Shadow Blasko 2009-01-25 04:38:55 PM  
/Staying the hell out of this thread.

 
Monkey MKIII 2009-01-25 04:38:57 PM  
Fat zombies will inherit the Earth and the increased weight will slow down the planet's rotation until it stops and the sky fills with levitating masses of flesh.

As the oversized skin pancakes rise to the sky and cast shadows over the face of the Earth, the planet will start to spin again and fat bastards will rain down hell upon us. The impact from falling obese gluttonous dense overweight morons will result in damage to tectonic plates and the subsequent destruction of the world as we know it.

The skies will fill with ash and smoke, effectively blotting out the sunlight and resulting in all that depends on the light and the warmth of the sun being choked to death by falling ash. The earth will shake with violent earthquakes which tear apart all remaining settlements.

In a desperate bid to stop volcanoes from erupting people will try hauling fat people into the mouth of the volcano. This well-meaning act will be our ultimate downfall. Once the pressure grows substantially enough the fat people will explode upwards and outwards, a mass of lava and burning fat flying through the air and landing mercilessly upon whatever life which still inhabits the wasteland.

Yeah, I'd like fries with that.

 
thereadlines [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 04:39:00 PM  
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tbyte 2009-01-25 04:39:16 PM  
Wait, wait, wait. Last year, it was the UK that had the greatest proportion of obese people. Did that change this month?

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:39:53 PM  
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BiblioTech [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 04:40:20 PM  
brigid_fitch: FTFY. There's no one who DOESN'T know how to cook. If you can farking read, you can follow a recipe. It's not that hard.

Yes and no. Read somewhere that makers of cookbooks are having to look at their directions. You say to "braise" something and a lot of people don't have a clue. We won't even go to "cream the butter and sugar" - but I'm sure SOMEONE will.

It would also be interesting to see a correlation done between the rate of obesity and when "low-fat" diets began being pushed by the medical establishment. Low fat doesn't always mean low calorie and I think a lot of people get sucked into eating more calories than they really think they are getting.

Portion size is the biggest thing I see. When we were out breaking the prairie and doing manual labor all day, portion sizes needed to be big. Unfortunately we kept that prairie sized mentality in a modern world where we sit around all day.

 
zoips 2009-01-25 04:41:18 PM  

The over abundance of cheap, sugary food isn't helping us any. I just bought a box of day old donuts for $2.50 and am on the second one; I've probably already ingested 500 calories of pure sugar. If it weren't for weight lifting and MMA I'd be 900 lbs.

All that being said, still a will power issue for 99.9% of fat people. People shouldn't need the government to protect them from their own stupidity and inability to not eat so much crap food; banning junk food just hurts the people who know how to eat it without ending up with diabeetus.


 
wheeldog 2009-01-25 04:41:28 PM  
Smeggy Smurf: I link the lardassification of America to the rise of overly abundant leisure activities and the general pussification of everybody.

Before kids spent all their time inside playing video games they had to go outside and find new and exciting ways to hurt themselves. Before 1985 there was typically only one fat kid in your class. We made fun of him, beat him up regularly and pounded the hell out of him in dodgeball. Now there is no dodgeball. The precious little snowflakes must be protected from everything.

I'm not blaming video games. I'm blaming the parents that won't kick the kids outside regardless of the weather. It's raining? Good, go plug up the stormdrains to make huge puddles to race your bike through. It's snowing? Go sledding. Have a snowball fight. Go make obscene snowmen on the front lawn of your school.

/fark worthless chickenshiat parents
*I********AGREE*********
I agree so totally. I had to go and be outside for the entire day except for lunch! I only got fat one time in my life and that was when I was unable to walk for a couple months. good grief, why do people have to park RIGHT NEXT TO THE FARKING DOOR of a mall? when did we come to HATE walking so much?

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:41:34 PM  
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BiblioTech [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 04:41:53 PM  
Oops- that should have been addressed to Shostie. Teach me to multitask.

 
Noah's Arcade 2009-01-25 04:43:08 PM  
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SuperTramp [TotalFark] 2009-01-25 04:43:14 PM  
When I was in school, recess was an hour, and in high school, P.E. was every day, and required until senior year. The television wasn't on 12 hours a day because we only got 3 channels. No one was worried about their kid being abducted, so when we weren't in school, we were out riding our bicycles all over the place, or playing an impromptu softball game in the field next to the fire station. There were no video games or computers.

Sedentary lifestyles are the primary reason, IMHO, for the obesity epidemic -- and what's most troubling, is that it's increasingly affecting children.

 
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