This was (embarrassingly) my introduction to these guys. Since then I've grabbed their whole catalog and I have to say "Alive or Just Breathing" is my favorite.

/So, Fark metal heads, let's start this weeks SHMHC and all of the "that's not metal, this sucks" posts!

I like Dio's better. I was enjoying this one until the singer/blacksmith started with the deep raspy yelling, I can't stand that type of "singing".

/it's good to be the king
//tasty serving wenches

I like the band's music, but can't get past the wussy emo singing.

Dio is better.

I like Killswitch Engage. A friend of mine gave me a couple of their albums and they're pretty good.

TeddyBallGame: This was (embarrassingly) my introduction to these guys. Since then I've grabbed their whole catalog and I have to say "Alive or Just Breathing" is my favorite.

/So, Fark metal heads, let's start this weeks SHMHC and all of the "that's not metal, this sucks" posts!


They are Metal if you consider metalcore to be Metal. I think that metalcore is Metal. I also think that there are some decent metalcore bands out there. I do not think that Killswitch Engage is one of these decent bands, and the cover of this song is a slap in the face to the man who invented the devil horns.

/the best of all metal worlds? What does that even mean?

Recoil Therapy: I like Dio's better. I was enjoying this one until the singer/blacksmith started with the deep raspy yelling, I can't stand that type of "singing".


Sadly, that seems to be his preferred method of "singing" Would probably be better if it were a rickroll (new window)

Recoil Therapy: I like Dio's better. I was enjoying this one until the singer/blacksmith started with the deep raspy yelling, I can't stand that type of "singing".

I do recognize the "screaming" as just another vocal expression. What do you call it when someone uses their fake high voice? As a guy, if you want to sing outside traditional vocal ranges, you either sing like a pussy (Jason Mraz), or you scream your head off (Howard Jones). I don't care for bands like The Bled, where 90% of the song is screaming, and the instrumental is the furthest thing from harmony one can expect. But KsE mixes it up a bit, and they're solid on metal harmony. I suggest Five Finger Death Punch for you old metalheads still on the fence about "screaming".
Ronnie James Dio...no one will ever sound like him. It's like watching your local band try to sing Chris Cornell.

It was OK.

Bonkthat_Again: Recoil Therapy: I like Dio's better. I was enjoying this one until the singer/blacksmith started with the deep raspy yelling, I can't stand that type of "singing".

I do recognize the "screaming" as just another vocal expression. What do you call it when someone uses their fake high voice? As a guy, if you want to sing outside traditional vocal ranges, you either sing like a pussy (Jason Mraz), or you scream your head off (Howard Jones). I don't care for bands like The Bled, where 90% of the song is screaming, and the instrumental is the furthest thing from harmony one can expect. But KsE mixes it up a bit, and they're solid on metal harmony. I suggest Five Finger Death Punch for you old metalheads still on the fence about "screaming".
Ronnie James Dio...no one will ever sound like him. It's like watching your local band try to sing Chris Cornell.

Exactly. Howard Jones can actually sing and carry a tune. He's a hell of a lot better than most "metal" vocalists out there today (I'm looking at you, Randy Blythe).

BigSnatch: /the best of all metal worlds? What does that even mean?

"Best of metal worlds" is the answer to "if you consider metalcore as metal." Of course I do. It's go Metal in its name for God sake. All of these bands are metal. Slipknot, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Lamb of God, Pantera etc. Elvis is the king of RnR. van Halen is a RnR band. See my point? Different styles, influences, directions but all branches off the same tree my man.

Oh, and of course the Dio version is better but this isn't satire. It shows a genuine appreciation for the original even if the video is tongue-in-cheek. It's clear that with this cover, KSE counts Dio among their influences.

Metal nerds are nerdy

Say what you will about the music, but that was one of the coolest video's I've seen in a while. I love how every time you see the king he takes a bite of a turkey leg.

thegonz111: Metal nerds are nerdy

Melodic Metalcore Nerd is the correct term.

Stradavus: Say what you will about the music, but that was one of the coolest video's I've seen in a while. I love how every time you see the king he takes a bite of a turkey leg.

Heh, I just went and watched the original Dio video on youtube and now realize that this Killswitch video borrowed heavily from it. Kinda neat.

All I know about Killswitch Engage is that their song with the lyric "I have become a tyrant" made for a really really good track for a collection of car vids and crashes and stuff I got back in the day from some site...the file title is "Full Throttle" and it worked superb.

/So did "We Built This City" for a stunt biker vid, strangely enough

Bonkthat_Again: As a guy, if you want to sing outside traditional vocal ranges, you either sing like a pussy (Jason Mraz), or you scream your head off (Howard Jones).

Huh?

You don't replace one of the all time best singers in metal with some generic yelling bastard.

Huh. I thought Killswitch Engage was a pussy emo rock band, but the comments here seems to imply otherwise, and that was pretty good until the annoying screaming.

Great_Milenko: Recoil Therapy: I like Dio's better. I was enjoying this one until the singer/blacksmith started with the deep raspy yelling, I can't stand that type of "singing".


Sadly, that seems to be his preferred method of "singing" Would probably be better if it were a rickroll (new window)

Get used to it. It isn't changing any time soon. Go back to listening to crappy ICP.

As far as Killswitch goes, I enjoyed their initial EP and even AOJB, but after that they went a bit too melodiy/emo for me.

Melody is for queers, rhythm and harmony are for real men ;)

GAT_00: Huh. I thought Killswitch Engage was a pussy emo rock band, but the comments here seems to imply otherwise, and that was pretty good until the annoying screaming.

No, you were right. They are a pussy emo band but they do a good job of dressing it up and selling it to suburban kids as "metal".

Donald_McRonald: Huh?

Not THAT Howard Jones! The lead singer for KsE and Blood Has Been Shed.

RagingLeonard: No, you were right. They are a pussy emo band but they do a good job of dressing it up and selling it to suburban kids as "metal".

Got it. Thanks for saving me from that.

BTW, if you want to hear melodic singing mixed with screaming that actually works and is much more genuine, check out Turisas (new window)

I don't care what kind of music you like, there is no way you can say that that singing was in any way "good." What can you even say about the vocals that is positive? I want to see someone try. It's impossible, not even a matter of opinion, it does nothing but distract from the music.

Way too "Guitar Center" sounding for me.

I really dislike the sounds and tones of much current modern metal-hard rock. Sounds thin and transparent.

I prefer heavy guitar and bass that ooze out of the speakers like warm magma. Drums should thunder like Bonham and vocals should be INSIDE the mix with the riffage and NOT on top of the mix.

...just my .02
take it or leave it.

browntimmy: It's impossible, not even a matter of opinion

You were doing well until this little statement.

Sigh. True metal is dead.

Dio has rocked, for a long long time
Now it's time for him to pass the torch

/No torch for these guys
//not even a match

kab: browntimmy: It's impossible, not even a matter of opinion

You were doing well until this little statement.

I know, I was being silly. But it's not far from the truth.

This sucked.

DIO rocks.

alive or just breathing ftw...

/video should have linked to just barely breathing or life to lifeless

First, Lamb of God...now this.

If they put up Bullet for my Valentine next week I am going to kick some ass.

/ out of bubble gum

Magics5RIP: Melody is for queers, rhythm and harmony are for real men ;)

Dude, the original Holy Diver has one of the best melodies in metal. Ho-ly Divah, you been down-to-long in the midnight seaaa.

how can that NOT get stuck in your head?

Bonkthat_Again: What do you call it when someone uses their fake high voice?

falsetto

also this cover sucks and i actually like kse.

this kicked ass---the video is epic. Finally a metal band that isn't all "dark and serious".

yeah the screamo singing---

And Dio very much rules.


Any band with a drummer that has a gigantic red beard gets my vote.

Check out Red Fang's LARPER video for more hilarity.

//too hung over to get link

Excellent song, moderately amusing video.

Crappy band, crappy cover version.

Hard to dance to, so I give it a 56, Dick.

cameroncrazy1984: Magics5RIP: Melody is for queers, rhythm and harmony are for real men ;)

Dude, the original Holy Diver has one of the best melodies in metal. Ho-ly Divah, you been down-to-long in the midnight seaaa.

how can that NOT get stuck in your head?

I didn't know if you could tell, but thats what we here call..a joke. I certainly respect Dio and Holy Diver is catchy as hell, there is no denying that. But Killswitch Engage certainly isn't the best metal representative out there. CURRENT melody is awful, thats why there is a surge of mostly atonal rhythmic puzzles. Its much easier for musicians to sit down and count some off beats than to come up with melodies of gold.

http://www.last.fm/music/iwrestledabearonce/+videos/+1-ZrFTR9fucr8

Here's a good Sunday Heavy Metal House Song! Good Song, but kinda gay video. Still, it's awesome

Trunks33: http://www.last.fm/music/iwrestledabearonce/+videos/+1-ZrFTR9fucr8

Here's a good Sunday Heavy Metal House Song! Good Song, but kinda gay video. Still, it's awesome

As farking strange as it was, I enjoyed a lot of that track. I just with they would take the irony out of their music and do a full on serious album. But, at least they have fun with it!

That girl has a hell of a voice too.

noheadphones: this kicked ass---the video is epic. Finally a metal band that isn't all "dark and serious".

yeah the screamo singing---

And Dio very much rules.


Any band with a drummer that has a gigantic red beard gets my vote.

Check out Red Fang's LARPER video for more hilarity.

//too hung over to get link

There are many bands that aren't dark and serious. Hell, most bands (excluding die hard black metal bands) are aware that the themes they might be using in their music are comical. Let's look at a band like Gorerotted (now The Rotted). They have gems like.

- Stab me till I cum
- Bed'em , behead'em
- Only tools and corpses
- Zombie graveyard rape bonanza

I personally dislike Killswitch Engage A LOT. I hate the vocals, I hate the whole "modern" sound they have etc etc. However, I have a lot of respect for their guitarist (adam, I think). I've seen pictures of the dude wearing some weird shiat and just having a blast onstage, THAT I can admire and appreciate in a metal musician. Their music, however, does absolutely nothing for me.


Other bands I dislike:
- Pretty much every band that has a noun-phrase for a name. (Stop it, you're not clever nor original)

i thoroughly enjoyed this. and the guitar player as princess, i lol'd.

cameroncrazy1984: how can that NOT get stuck in your head?

Hey Cam! Welcome aboard.

/I have the ultimate gift for you hanging on my wall. Seriously. EIP if you want to impress your friends with your far reaching influence on Fark.

Trunks33: http://www.last.fm/music/iwrestledabearonce/+videos/+1-ZrFTR9fucr8

Here's a good Sunday Heavy Metal House Song! Good Song, but kinda gay video. Still, it's awesome

Though I can really appreciate the humor of the band name and the attempt at humor in the video. All the breakdowns and the awful attempts at brutal vocals are reasons why I weep for the future of metal.

This coming from a guy who listens to "Prostitute Disfigurement".

But, oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess.

cabritosaurio: Trunks33: http://www.last.fm/music/iwrestledabearonce/+videos/+1-ZrFTR9fucr8

Here's a good Sunday Heavy Metal House Song! Good Song, but kinda gay video. Still, it's awesome

Though I can really appreciate the humor of the band name and the attempt at humor in the video. All the breakdowns and the awful attempts at brutal vocals are reasons why I weep for the future of metal.

This coming from a guy who listens to "Prostitute Disfigurement".

But, oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess.

I thought this at first, but strip away the irony and there is potential. There is a section in the late 1 minute mark where the girl first sings cleanly that is a very well developed section of music. The over the top breakdowns is just humorous and mocking of harcore/metalcore of years past. It'll end up being a novelty, which is why I would like to see them be a little more serious with their writing. They have the right elements to do more than what they did there.

Magics5RIP: Great_Milenko: Recoil Therapy: I like Dio's better. I was enjoying this one until the singer/blacksmith started with the deep raspy yelling, I can't stand that type of "singing".


Sadly, that seems to be his preferred method of "singing" Would probably be better if it were a rickroll (new window)

Get used to it. It isn't changing any time soon. Go back to listening to crappy ICP.

As far as Killswitch goes, I enjoyed their initial EP and even AOJB, but after that they went a bit too melodiy/emo for me.

Melody is for queers, rhythm and harmony are for real men ;)

Do you even know what melody is? KSE have neve even been in the same room with it.

That was the most badass cover, ever.

I came here saw the words Holy Diver, thought "can always use more Dio." But then I saw that it was the Killswitch Engage raping.

No. No. No. No. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

KSE is a good band. I've seen them a few times in the NY/NJ tri-state area. They put on a very good live show. However, they are a band that started off really strong and have not really progressed. Their last album is pretty boring actually. Still consider myself a fan.


This is a decent cover of a classic song. I'm surprised to see positive comments at all, as metal heads are usually too cool to enjoy anything more than 5 people have heard of.

By the way, if I had remembered, this would have been my video: Candlemass - Bewitched (new window)

RagingLeonard: BTW, if you want to hear melodic singing mixed with screaming that actually works and is much more genuine, check out Turisas (new window)

These HMHC's are becoming really bad for my wallet. I really liked that song, off to find the album. ::sigh::

lol i like the band and this video is hilarious, they meant it to be hilarious, right?