Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of Nassau County, even threatened a primary challenge. Gillibrand faces a special election in 2010.

OMFG! Threatening to have Democracy!!

meh...go for it.

Where would we be without the NY Post? Oh yeah, more intelligent.

i wonder how these politicians would have reacted if Kennedy got the seat..

nothing make these self serving jerks happy... nothing!

PC LOAD LETTER: Where would we be without the NY Post? Oh yeah, more intelligent.

Well, I'd have to find something else to use to housebreak my new puppy.

Found on other sites:

You might call her a bizarro version of Sarah Palin: she proudly touts her 100 percent rating from the National Rifle Association, and has two young children, aged 4 years old and six months old.

On the issue of gay rights, Gillibrand received an 80 out of a 100 rating from the LGBT advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign. That was the lowest score out of New York's Democratic representatives. According to the Human Rights Campaign, she voted against the repealing of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" legislation, opposed legislation that would grant equal tax treatment for employer-provided health coverage for domestic partners, opposed legislation to grant same-sex partners of U.S. citizens and permanent residents the same immigration benefits of married couples and opposed legislation to permit state Medicaid programs to cover low-income, HIV-positive Americans before they develop AIDS.

TheOther: OMFG! Threatening to have Democracy!!



the horror!

Walker: On the issue of gay rights, Gillibrand received an 80 out of a 100 rating from the LGBT advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign. That was the lowest score out of New York's Democratic representatives.

So apparently every other Democratic representative answered "yes" to the question, "Would you publicly engage in a homosexual sex act?"

Really, the best you ever want to score from any sort of a targeted special interest group is the 80% range. That says that you're supportive of their core causes without blatantly pandering to the fringe.

What an awesome headacheline.
/see what I did there?

It's NY...who cares. The only good thing is the Kennedy didn't get it.

3_Butt_Cheeks: The only good thing is the Kennedy didn't get it.

Gotta flash your gang sign in a Fark thread.

my primary residence is in her district, she's good and upstate will get some representation for once so eat a bowl of dicks "liberal wing".

TheOther: Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of Nassau County, even threatened a primary challenge. Gillibrand faces a special election in 2010.

OMFG! Threatening to have Democracy!!

meh...go for it.

So let me get this straight, everytime someone in office kicks off gets reassigned whatever we need to have a new election? What if it's for only a year? Six months? Two Weeks?

decent will not be tolerated

3_Butt_Cheeks: It's NY...who cares.

Actually, it's the United States Senate. I care.

Wow....

That's actually a really good choice.

I'm dumbfounded.

I don't see what's all that bad about her. The gun rights thing is actually a plus in my book, so we can disregard that. I'd prefer she be a bit more pro-gay, but it seems like she's reasonably so. Other than that, I haven't heard any real substantive criticism of her. I have heard a lot of emotional screaming from my fellow liberals that "OMG! She's a conservative! She's a blue dog!". Anyone care to enlighten me as to why she's supposedly a "conservative", beyond these two issues?

You say "NRA" like it's a bad thing.

/Member.

Interesting address line on that link... ".../dave_picks_gillibrand_as_liberal_dems_ho_151502.htm"

NRA sux--didn't do much to prevent guns being taken from law-abiders in New Orleans after Katrina and didn't get behind Ron Paul, full-force like they should have.

here's the real deal: http://www.jpfo.org/

Occam's Chainsaw: Walker: On the issue of gay rights, Gillibrand received an 80 out of a 100 rating from the LGBT advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign. That was the lowest score out of New York's Democratic representatives.

So apparently every other Democratic representative answered "yes" to the question, "Would you publicly engage in a homosexual sex act?"

Really, the best you ever want to score from any sort of a targeted special interest group is the 80% range. That says that you're supportive of their core causes without blatantly pandering to the fringe.

Did you read Walker's description of things she'd voted against? Sounds like considerably more than a simple lack of pandering.

The_Sponge: You say "NRA" like it's a bad thing.

/Member.

"Voted against the bailout..."

They say that like it's a bad thing too.

WTF?

That puts her way up there to me.

I'd hit it.

This was a brilliant move by Paterson. Along with the budget axing, I am starting to get some respect for the man. We need more Democrats acting like Republicans to show Republicans how it's done.

Of all the various right-wing special interest groups, the NRA scares me the least. If she had a perfect score from Focus on Teh Gheys The Family, I'd be furious. If she had a record of pushing for financial deregulation, or a strong anti-union stance, I'd be quite concerned. But the NRA? Who farking cares?

Also, Howard Dean, the liberal, anti-war firebrand of '04, DNC hair, remember him? Another darling of the NRA.

Headso: my primary residence is in her district, she's good and upstate will get some representation for once so eat a bowl of dicks "liberal wing".

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it was more the 'establishment' wing than the 'liberal' wing of the NY Democratic party that didn't get their way, and is the better defined faction threatening a hissy fit.

Walker: Found on other sites:

You might call her a bizarro version of Sarah Palin: she proudly touts her 100 percent rating from the National Rifle Association, and has two young children, aged 4 years old and six months old.


Well, except for the cum laude from Dartmouth, the JD from UCLA Law, and the years of serious legal work, yeah. Maybe that's what makes her bizarro?


On the issue of gay rights, Gillibrand received an 80 out of a 100 rating from the LGBT advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign. That was the lowest score out of New York's Democratic representatives. According to the Human Rights Campaign, she voted against the repealing of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" legislation, opposed legislation that would grant equal tax treatment for employer-provided health coverage for domestic partners, opposed legislation to grant same-sex partners of U.S. citizens and permanent residents the same immigration benefits of married couples and opposed legislation to permit state Medicaid programs to cover low-income, HIV-positive Americans before they develop AIDS.

Honestly, I was surprised you could be that wrong on so many gay-rights issues, which she is in my opinion, and still get an 80%.

MsPentyuth: The_Sponge: You say "NRA" like it's a bad thing.

/Member.

"Voted against the bailout..."

They say that like it's a bad thing too.

WTF?

That puts her way up there to me.


Same here.

The_Sponge: You say "NRA" like it's a bad thing.

/Member.

Does she represent the people of the state outside of the 5 boroughs?

Oh boo-farking-hoo city liberals, it's about farking time "upstate" NY got some farking representation.

NYS != NYC

/already emailed to thank Patterson

MsPentyuth: "Voted against the bailout..." They say that like it's a bad thing too.

Hell of a lot better than McCain.

With so many children killed each year by handguns, why isn't remove all republicans ever amongst them?

Remove all Republicans: Mnemia: Anyone care to enlighten me as to why she's supposedly a "conservative", beyond these two issues?

If you support some conservative values, you aren't a liberal. Period. There aren't the equivalent of "fiscal conservatives", "social conservatives" in the Democratic party. It's just what constituencies do you support and which ones do you not care about. She obviously doesn't care about the children killed each year due to handguns.

Hey, haven't seen you in awhile....

...but at least you're still retarded. That's something we can always count on.

Eh. She'd get steamrolled if she tried to shake up the firearms scene too much.

Quite honestly, I think the ownership laws here in NY are too damn strict. I won't apply for a license because I don't want to get an anal probe from the state.

The NRA has a good con job going on. It's working well.

Then again, most of the rural conservative folks in her district probably think the ACLU is a liberal organization and Iraq started 9/11, so it wasn't hard for her to play the "let's fool the fools" game.

/knows her district

Spanky_McFarksalot: decent will not be tolerated

Neither will dissent.

He had to pick a Democrat, so he took the most AIPAC-worthy of the bunch. It's not like he needs some sort of scandal to blow up out of nowhere if he chooses poorly.

soy_bomb: This was a brilliant move by Paterson. Along with the budget axing, I am starting to get some respect for the man.


Is he still pushing for all those tax increases? The man isn't all bad, but it's a doofus move for wanting to tax soda to make NY a healthier state, but also tax gym memberships.

soy_bomb: This was a brilliant move by Paterson. Along with the budget axing, I am starting to get some respect for the man. We need more Democrats acting like Republicans to show Republicans how it's done.

Agreed.

/ex-upstate Republican

Lawnchair: Honestly, I was surprised you could be that wrong on so many gay-rights issues, which she is in my opinion, and still get an 80%.

You get an automatic 80% for being a Democrat, and a -80% for being Republican.

/joking
//only saying this because some will call me out for a joke

PC LOAD LETTER: The NRA has a good con job going on. It's working well.


As opposed to the con job that Sarah Brady is pulling?

HotWingConspiracy: Quite honestly, I think the ownership laws here in NY are too damn strict. I won't apply for a license because I don't want to get an anal probe from the state.

Explains why all the "power bottoms" are packing heat in Tribeca.

SusanIvanova: Of all the various right-wing special interest groups, the NRA scares me the least. If she had a perfect score from Focus on Teh Gheys The Family, I'd be furious. If she had a record of pushing for financial deregulation, or a strong anti-union stance, I'd be quite concerned. But the NRA? Who farking cares?

I agree. Gun control is no longer a unified issue in the Democratic party. It's just that some liberals haven't yet figured out that many of their fellow Democrats don't care about taking away people's guns. Voting narrowly with fundie interest groups would concern me much more, as I cannot stand anything to do with social conservatism. I would prefer she be a bit stronger on gay rights, but 80% is not 0%.

Gillibrand is local to me, and runs in a heavily Republican district. I could see her moving more to the left once she's senator.

She was lucky to get elected. She won her first term after the Republican candidate got accused of spousal abuse in the middle of the campaign. Instead of dealing with the issue (the State Police had been called to his house on a domestic disturbance call), he called off his press conference to explain himself, which made it look extremely bad. Gillibrand had a lot of money behind her and squeaked through.

She was a big target for the Republicans last year; they sent up a high powered candidate with tons of money behind him. But she won surprisingly easily, mostly by running an ad showing her opponent saying "I hugely support President Bush."

In any case, Gillibrand had to run to the right in order to have any chance of staying in office. Her predecessor was a right wing die-hard who was involved in trying to storm the ballot counting in Florida in 2000 when it was looking like Gore was gaining momentum. The representative previous to that was one of the most conservative members of the House.

I wouldn't be too concerned about her record; she did what she need to do to get reelected (and, don't forget, to represent the feelings of the people she was elected to represent). However, she would be the first senator from upstate NY in years, which will be a real strength for her.

Apik0r0s: He had to pick a Democrat, so he took the most AIPAC-worthy of the bunch. It's not like he needs some sort of scandal to blow up out of nowhere if he chooses poorly.

who isn't a pro Israel politician in America?

It's political suicide not to be.

The_Sponge: soy_bomb: This was a brilliant move by Paterson. Along with the budget axing, I am starting to get some respect for the man.


Is he still pushing for all those tax increases? The man isn't all bad, but it's a doofus move for wanting to tax soda to make NY a healthier state, but also tax gym memberships.

He was justifying taking money by saying it was for health reasons there... it wasn't to help TFatties

The_Sponge: Sarah Brady

Nope, just like it. Gun control doesn't work. Unrestricted guns doesn't work. Try something new to reduce crime, folks.

The_Sponge: Is he still pushing for all those tax increases? The man isn't all bad, but it's a doofus move for wanting to tax soda to make NY a healthier state, but also tax gym memberships.

I am not adverse to consumption taxes as much as I am production taxes. I drink water & coffee and run outside so neither taxes affect me.

Kokane is a helluva drug.