Those who have access to the president's e-mail will be briefed about appropriate communications, Gibbs said, without offering specifics.

I wonder if this covers BIE

Fox News was ready on day one. (new window)

Some lady this morning on the radio was losing her mind over this.

Called Obama a child for "needing" his blackberry and how it was a huge security risk.

kcoombs69: Those who have access to the president's e-mail will be briefed about appropriate communications, Gibbs said, without offering specifics.

Gibbs... ?

Damn, what a guy won't do to keep in touch with Scarlett Johansson.

pixistick: Some lady this morning on the radio was losing her mind over this.

Called Obama a child for "needing" his blackberry and how it was a huge security risk.

If for some retarded reason he was discussing matters of national security over his PDA that WOULD be a security risk.

I think they would be more worried about it's GPS ability. Some hacker being able to track his movememtns and then hack into Marine-1 and then cause it to crash into the Brooklyn Bridge while are Hero rescues the POTUS at the last second while driving a Chrysler.

/Chrysler sponsored the movie you see.
//Product placement

As long as there's a record kept somewhere of all of his e-mails (for the Presidential Records Act) I don't see the problem with even having an unsecure BlackBerry being used for e-mail, except maybe if he kept his private schedule on there... but the press already has access to the daily schedule, so even that isn't so bad.

When you're given classified information access it's pretty well drilled into you that you never, ever, ever send anything outside a secure environment. And the Internet is about as insecure as anything.

Gumercules: pixistick: Some lady this morning on the radio was losing her mind over this.

Called Obama a child for "needing" his blackberry and how it was a huge security risk.

If for some retarded reason he was discussing matters of national security over his PDA that WOULD be a security risk.



But his is a one of a kind "barrackberry" that the NSA has clamped down.....I thought

I'm glad he's moving the white house into the 21st century, hopefully Capital Hill will follow

So he wanted a blackberry so he didn't wind up in the presidential "bubble", but he can only talk to his senior staff and a few others. Mission accomplished?

what do you think his new email is gonna be?
renegade1?
sweetnsassy58?

To be honest, a lot of his texts are going to consist of "SOOOOOOXXXXX!!11!! WOOOO!!" and "Cubz suck!!".

Breunthor: what do you think his new email is gonna be?
renegade1?
sweetnsassy58?

freedomlover1
bushdestroyer09
44butnot43

I for one, have always been concerned about the BlackBarry and his phone.

You're all missing the most important part of the article:

"The girls were allowed to play hooky Wednesday after a late-night scavenger hunt at the White House that ended when they opened a door and found their favorite band, the Jonas Brothers."

Heh. may be subject to public records laws.

Whee, let's get the President's Email and sign him up for some spam so he can enjoy seeing large numbers in a folder he never visits like the rest of us.

pixistick: Breunthor: what do you think his new email is gonna be?
renegade1?
sweetnsassy58?

freedomlover1
bushdestroyer09
44butnot43

BlackHouse09

/window seat please

PanicMan: You're all missing the most important part of the article:

"The girls were allowed to play hooky Wednesday after a late-night scavenger hunt at the White House that ended when they opened a door and found their favorite band, the Jonas Brothers."

Don't they call the parents of Normal People when their kid's skip school?

I for one am sick andf tired of the special treatment the Ruling Class gets here in the US of A.

What's a BFF?

/old
//maybe I need to quit Fark

BraveNewCheneyWorld: So he wanted a blackberry so he didn't wind up in the presidential "bubble", but he can only talk to his senior staff and a few others. Mission accomplished?

Welcome to the bass-ackwards world of the Presidential Records Act, where everything the president writes, saves, or touches, no matter how insignificant, goes into the public record. (I don't know who to blame for it more... Nixon for creating the problem, Carter for signing a law that does nothing to solve the problem but makes it damn near impossible for the President to communicate in confidence with ordinary people, or the Congress for writing a law they'd be squealing like stuck pigs about if its terms applied to them.) If we don't want our Presidents living in a bubble and disconnected from reality, then maybe, just MAYBE, we should allow them to send a motherf$%#ing e-mail without it taking the permission of three IT guys, four lawyers, and five official historians.

On a lighter note, here's the President's new PDA. Yeah, it's Windows ME, but aside from that, would definitely want...

whatshisname: What's a BFF?

/old
//maybe I need to quit Fark

I've always held belief it stands for Big Fried Falaffle.

/Obligatory
//Hotlinked!

Hobodeluxe: Fox News was ready on day one. (new window)

my god, those guys couldn't be more full of shiat.

Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

That's great until someone guesses their way into his account and reveals everything he's shared with close folks. Not to mention utilizing the GPS capabilities of the original device, I mean, what potentially dangerous individual would want to know where the President in near real time?

There are reasons for strict security, and it often has to do with saving lives.

MasterThief: On a lighter note, here's the President's new PDA. Yeah, it's Windows ME, but aside from that, would definitely want...

What's a "trusted display"?

My first thought would be encryption of some sort, but why make it so rudimentary looking?

Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

Absurd security complaints? What world do you live in?

Hobodeluxe: Fox News was ready on day one. (new window)

wow. just... wow.

rush limbaugh: "i want him to fail."

rush needs to go back the dominican republic and get his oxy-fueled NAMBLA on. he obviously hasn't been laid in a while.

Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.


Billy are you on that list of Fail? lol
Why does this bother you?

DeathByGeekSquad: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

That's great until someone guesses their way into his account and reveals everything he's shared with close folks. Not to mention utilizing the GPS capabilities of the original device, I mean, what potentially dangerous individual would want to know where the President in near real time?

There are reasons for strict security, and it often has to do with saving lives.

You should E-mail this to the NSA and Secret Service because I am sure they have not thought of this.

/sarcasm off

mrshowrules: DeathByGeekSquad: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

That's great until someone guesses their way into his account and reveals everything he's shared with close folks. Not to mention utilizing the GPS capabilities of the original device, I mean, what potentially dangerous individual would want to know where the President in near real time?

There are reasons for strict security, and it often has to do with saving lives.

You should E-mail this to the NSA and Secret Service because I am sure they have not thought of this.

/sarcasm off

You should read the comment I was responding to, specifically the portion about absurd security complaints. Obama isn't a security specialist, so no, he doesn't get free reign, which is the point I made in a roundabout fashion that you suddenly decided was me suggesting that the proper security officials didn't know what the fark to do.

My Retard-Meter is on, and you're pegging the needle.

Billy McGoodGuy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

Absurd security complaints? What world do you live in?

A world where the new President is respected and loved. Things are different now.

DeathByGeekSquad: You should read the comment I was responding to, specifically the portion about absurd security complaints. Obama isn't a security specialist, so no, he doesn't get free reign, which is the point I made in a roundabout fashion that you suddenly decided was me suggesting that the proper security officials didn't know what the fark to do.

The damn thing clearly has a classified mode. My guess is that classified information can only be viewed in that mode, which turns off everything but maybe wi-fi that can only connect to secure hotspots.

Given the (a) security issue and (b) the fact that anything he emails is subject to the public record, I'm guessing that this is mainly going to be used for the occasional friendly chatter with old pals. I'd bet that he's mostly pushing for the BB because of his "modernizing government" theme.

Also guessing that they will be deactivating the GPS function. I mean, it's not like he's going to be needing turn-by-turn directions anytime soon.

DeathByGeekSquad: mrshowrules: DeathByGeekSquad: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

That's great until someone guesses their way into his account and reveals everything he's shared with close folks. Not to mention utilizing the GPS capabilities of the original device, I mean, what potentially dangerous individual would want to know where the President in near real time?

There are reasons for strict security, and it often has to do with saving lives.

You should E-mail this to the NSA and Secret Service because I am sure they have not thought of this.

/sarcasm off

You should read the comment I was responding to, specifically the portion about absurd security complaints. Obama isn't a security specialist, so no, he doesn't get free reign, which is the point I made in a roundabout fashion that you suddenly decided was me suggesting that the proper security officials didn't know what the fark to do.

My Retard-Meter is on, and you're pegging the needle.

Your comment was still dumb regardless of what you were responding to. That what you said would be possible and not thought of and addressed by people in charge of this stuff is very naive. You might want to double-check where the leads to your meter are hooked up. It might explain a few things.

whatshisname: What's a BFF?

/old
//maybe I need to quit Fark

Best Friends that fark

MasterThief: BraveNewCheneyWorld: So he wanted a blackberry so he didn't wind up in the presidential "bubble", but he can only talk to his senior staff and a few others. Mission accomplished?

Welcome to the bass-ackwards world of the Presidential Records Act, where everything the president writes, saves, or touches, no matter how insignificant, goes into the public record. (I don't know who to blame for it more... Nixon for creating the problem, Carter for signing a law that does nothing to solve the problem but makes it damn near impossible for the President to communicate in confidence with ordinary people, or the Congress for writing a law they'd be squealing like stuck pigs about if its terms applied to them.) If we don't want our Presidents living in a bubble and disconnected from reality, then maybe, just MAYBE, we should allow them to send a motherf$%#ing e-mail without it taking the permission of three IT guys, four lawyers, and five official historians.

On a lighter note, here's the President's new PDA. Yeah, it's Windows ME, but aside from that, would definitely want...


Update. He is keeping his BLACKBERRY, the NSA added some new security to it.

Link (new window)

Billy McGoodGuy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

Absurd security complaints? What world do you live in?

A world where the new President is respected and loved. Things are different now.

Sure they are. Have some more kool aid, it's crisp and hallucinogenic cherry this week. (new window)

Billy McGoodGuy: maybe if you would get your nose out of Bush's taint for a few minutes and realize that Obama has more class, smarts, and ability than your guy, you would see that your concerns are false.

There are a lot less people out there hating the President now. Once you see that, you will feel better.

What in the blue blazes does how someone feel about you affect your data security???

pixistick: But his is a one of a kind "barrackberry" that the NSA has clamped down.....I thought

I believe that's true... Not only that, but he's got an NSA certified smart phone, the Sectera Edge (new window), to use for accessing SIPR/NIPRNET (DoD/State Department networks for information classified up to SECRET), encrypted communications, etc. I don't know what kind of access he'd have to JWICS (similar, but up to TOP SECRET)... I really only have a very limited knowledge of the networks, just what's readily available for anyone to find out, so I can't even say how important that would be. If it's not remotely accessible, I would imagine that all information available on JWICS would only be one encrypted phone call away.

In any case, I think that the chances are good that the Blackberry will be for personal communication, and the Sectera will be for business.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Billy McGoodGuy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

Absurd security complaints? What world do you live in?

A world where the new President is respected and loved. Things are different now.

Sure they are. Have some more kool aid, it's crisp and hallucinogenic cherry this week. (new window)

Billy McGoodGuy has morphed into a different breed of troll. He is now impersonating what he thinks an "Obamaton" would be like.

mrshowrules: DeathByGeekSquad: mrshowrules: DeathByGeekSquad: Billy McGoodGuy: I don't see the problem. Obama is our first modern President. Our first hip-hop President. He has grown used to using devices like this, and should not be expected to change just because of absurd security complaints. Let the man do his job as he sees fit.

That's great until someone guesses their way into his account and reveals everything he's shared with close folks. Not to mention utilizing the GPS capabilities of the original device, I mean, what potentially dangerous individual would want to know where the President in near real time?

There are reasons for strict security, and it often has to do with saving lives.

You should E-mail this to the NSA and Secret Service because I am sure they have not thought of this.

/sarcasm off

You should read the comment I was responding to, specifically the portion about absurd security complaints. Obama isn't a security specialist, so no, he doesn't get free reign, which is the point I made in a roundabout fashion that you suddenly decided was me suggesting that the proper security officials didn't know what the fark to do.

My Retard-Meter is on, and you're pegging the needle.

Your comment was still dumb regardless of what you were responding to. That what you said would be possible and not thought of and addressed by people in charge of this stuff is very naive. You might want to double-check where the leads to your meter are hooked up. It might explain a few things.

You're attempting to pinhole a point that has no bearing on the discussion. My point has apparently gone way the fark over your head and as I set my response to a very low readership expectation level, you're being retarded.

Good day to you, sir. Go find someone else to ride into the ground instead of backpedaling endlessly with terrible counters.

Billy McGoodGuy: Respect, both locally and globally, is a powerful thing. Without Cowboy politics people have no need to see our "data". It is amazing what you can accomplish by working with the world rather than against them. Try it sometime.

So, Fark lets ten year olds log in now?

fosborb: DeathByGeekSquad: You should read the comment I was responding to, specifically the portion about absurd security complaints. Obama isn't a security specialist, so no, he doesn't get free reign, which is the point I made in a roundabout fashion that you suddenly decided was me suggesting that the proper security officials didn't know what the fark to do.

The damn thing clearly has a classified mode. My guess is that classified information can only be viewed in that mode, which turns off everything but maybe wi-fi that can only connect to secure hotspots.

I wasn't discussing what was done, I was discussing the validity of the complaints originally made by the Secret Service. Obama fought them, and eventually came to a compromise, the comment I responded to suggested that he should have free reign which would've resulted in no compromise.

OMG did UC Obama killed some people 2day? ROFL (new window)

Billy McGoodGuy: look, I know you are still sore about the election, and that is cool, I get it. But maybe we can try working together now? In other words...you lost, get over it.

Your belief that "data" is unimportant to other nations is rather ridiculous. Currently, some of the worst government hacks that have been successful have come from our allies and you should know that we are returning the favor. Your idea that an election changes how secure data automatically becomes is childlike at best.

Billy McGoodGuy: pkellmey: Billy McGoodGuy: Respect, both locally and globally, is a powerful thing. Without Cowboy politics people have no need to see our "data". It is amazing what you can accomplish by working with the world rather than against them. Try it sometime.

So, Fark lets ten year olds log in now?

look, I know you are still sore about the election, and that is cool, I get it. But maybe we can try working together now? In other words...you lost, get over it.

If one side 'lost' did the other side really 'win', I mean, they inherited a mess that is filled with potential pitfalls that would seriously mar any legacy or chance at reelection.

It seems like a lose-lose situation across the board.

fosborb: The damn thing clearly has a classified mode. My guess is that classified information can only be viewed in that mode, which turns off everything but maybe wi-fi that can only connect to secure hotspots.

They just ran a bit on CNN about this device. Defintely not a Blackberry (Sorry - can't think of the company right now). It has two modes. One acts like your regular PDA. You click an icon and it goes into classified mode so you can access secure web sites, secure phone, etc.

bberg: As long as there's a record kept somewhere of all of his e-mails (for the Presidential Records Act) I don't see the problem with even having an unsecure BlackBerry being used for e-mail, except maybe if he kept his private schedule on there... but the press already has access to the daily schedule, so even that isn't so bad.

When you're given classified information access it's pretty well drilled into you that you never, ever, ever send anything outside a secure environment. And the Internet is about as insecure as anything.

Yeah, that's the same way I was thinking. As long as he obeys the rules (no secure talk) and lets it all be subpeonaed, what's the problem?

Palin's email troubles were about using a secret account to avoid the records-keeping, but if the Blackberry is all known about and backed up, and Obama uses half a brain cell and doesn't talk work content on it, seems it'd be okay to me...

I used to have reason to call a secure military office (knew a guy working there) and their operators answered the phone with a long memorized speech about how the line was insecure and don't talk about this or that or the other, now how can I help you? All I ever needed to talk about was "will you be working late tonight or should I meet you at the train?" or "so did you get the tickets?" type banal friends talk so no problems. I'm sure I'm on tape there decades later asking about it...

Billy McGoodGuy: DeathByGeekSquad: Billy McGoodGuy: pkellmey: Billy McGoodGuy: Respect, both locally and globally, is a powerful thing. Without Cowboy politics people have no need to see our "data". It is amazing what you can accomplish by working with the world rather than against them. Try it sometime.

So, Fark lets ten year olds log in now?

look, I know you are still sore about the election, and that is cool, I get it. But maybe we can try working together now? In other words...you lost, get over it.

If one side 'lost' did the other side really 'win', I mean, they inherited a mess that is filled with potential pitfalls that would seriously mar any legacy or chance at reelection.

It seems like a lose-lose situation across the board.

the difference is, one side has a man that can fix it. The other side has a man that eats pancakes. The good guys won.

Are they really good guys or is that merely their public image? Is either side a collection of good guys? Are there any good guys in politics?

BiblioTech: fosborb: The damn thing clearly has a classified mode. My guess is that classified information can only be viewed in that mode, which turns off everything but maybe wi-fi that can only connect to secure hotspots.

They just ran a bit on CNN about this device. Defintely not a Blackberry (Sorry - can't think of the company right now). It has two modes. One acts like your regular PDA. You click an icon and it goes into classified mode so you can access secure web sites, secure phone, etc.

If it's not a Blackberry, the previous device reported was the Sectera Edge.