Awww... the wittle babies found out the real world dont conform to their ideals.

On the plus side, grats to the ones who quit waiting for their entitlement and actually do something about making their own way.

/Off my lawn, cupcake!!!

I know they're still the greatest generation, but it actually was easier to succeed in the 50s, with a variety of financial and education opportunities for returning soldiers. Today women are expected to work, there's less to go around, and according to the article my millennial bretheren got the message so everybody calm down.

/but what do I know, I'm downwardly mobile
//best decision I ever made

Such entitlement. We ended the Vietnam War and took down a corrupt President all while smoking up and getting laid at Woodstock.

We are OWED a comfortable retirement. And low taxes, too, for all we've done tofor this great country.

The hardest lesson is discovering that the wisdom your parents and teachers gave you applied to a radically different enviroment than the one you live in.

Generation A was all 'WTF?!?' about the no Garden of Eden thing. It's been the same every generation since.

Yes, you sucked as a snotty little entitlement whore, too.

I love it when youngsters get hit with a big, fat, flaming dose of reality.

/It smells like victory.

I do all the intern portfolio reviews and interviews for the agency I work for... I'm constantly amazed by the shiatty quality of portfolios and sub-standard interview skills I see from college seniors and recent grads that I meet with. Even among those coming from the big name schools such as RISD and Mass Art.

Not all of them, of course, but a lot of these kids seem to think they're doing me a favor by coming in and showing me their crappy student work.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much, because it just makes my job a lot easier, and means I don't have to be too worried about the competition when I decide to move on from my present position.

On a positive note, there still seems to be a decent number of these kids that "get it". They understand that positions in this industry are few and far between these days (especially in this market), they value the opportunity to get some experience and work their asses to impress the creative team.

keylock71: I do all the intern portfolio reviews and interviews for the agency I work for... I'm constantly amazed by the shiatty quality of portfolios and sub-standard interview skills I see from college seniors and recent grads that I meet with. Even among those coming from the big name schools such as RISD and Mass Art.

Not all of them, of course, but a lot of these kids seem to think they're doing me a favor by coming in and showing me their crappy student work.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much, because it just makes my job a lot easier, and means I don't have to be too worried about the competition when I decide to move on from my present position.

On a positive note, there still seems to be a decent number of these kids that "get it". They understand that positions in this industry are few and far between these days (especially in this market), they value the opportunity to get some experience and work their asses to impress the creative team.

You're using Art majors as examples. Suffice it to say, these are not people who understand the art of communication.

That being said, it is not that much of an improvement when interviewing business majors.

I weep for the future.

You mean being really good at playing video games and riding a skateboard isn't all that impressive to employers? Shocking.

Speaking of an entire generation of selfish "the world owes me" types, how ya doing, Baby Boomers?

keylock71: I do all the intern portfolio reviews and interviews for the agency I work for... I'm constantly amazed by the shiatty quality of portfolios and sub-standard interview skills I see from college seniors and recent grads that I meet with. Even among those coming from the big name schools such as RISD and Mass Art.

Not all of them, of course, but a lot of these kids seem to think they're doing me a favor by coming in and showing me their crappy student work.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much, because it just makes my job a lot easier, and means I don't have to be too worried about the competition when I decide to move on from my present position.

On a positive note, there still seems to be a decent number of these kids that "get it". They understand that positions in this industry are few and far between these days (especially in this market), they value the opportunity to get some experience and work their asses to impress the creative team.

What industry are you in? My girlfriend attends RISD.

I feel so sorry for the precious little snowflakes. Wait, no I don't.

/Xer

evildick: Awww... the wittle babies found out the real world dont conform to their ideals.

On the plus side, grats to the ones who quit waiting for their entitlement and actually do something about making their own way.

/Off my lawn, cupcake!!!



It's all good. I'll keep paying your social security and then I'll be happy to take over your debts after you die a lonely death.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I weep for the future.

You're a great American.

BunkyBrewman:

You're using Art majors as examples. Suffice it to say, these are not people who understand the art of communication.

That being said, it is not that much of an improvement when interviewing business majors.


Well, I'm interviewing for design intern positions at an advertising agency, so I'm pretty much only going to be interviewing art students.

Having said that, I really wish public speaking, mass communications, and basic business classes were part of the curriculum for art and design majors. Listening to some of these kids talk about their work is like listening to a 4th grader reading a book report in front of the class.

If you're not excited by your own work, how the hell am I supposed to be excited about it?

Lt. Cheese Weasel: I weep for the future.

Oh, like you weren't a little dress-up drama monkey ever!!

I love the anger of my Boomer elders, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. It is about to become a truly dire time to grow old as entitlement programs get strained to their limits and have to be revisited or abandoned. Stay off my lawn-free, food producing restored habitat you cantankerous parasites.

Winktologist: Speaking of an entire generation of selfish "the world owes me" types, how ya doing, Baby Boomers?

Oh, they're doing great! They just raised our taxes to pay for the market crash that wiped out their 401k plan.

At least us GenXers had cake.

Bah, cookies are for the young!

If I had the job of naming generations, I would make the next one Generation Bingopoopies. That way I would be able to hear things like "Bingopoopy Boom" on the news.

I make it known in my interview that the pay doesn't matter as long as I'm doing something interesting and challenging. What I do is more important than anything else.

But I'm not sure when that changed... I think there are entitlement idiots in every generation. It's just now they have myspace to make sure everyone knows they're brooding. It used to be people would just swallow their pride and shovel the shiat.

Winktologist:
What industry are you in? My girlfriend attends RISD.

Advertising. It's a small boutique agency and I'm just the senior designer, so I don't have to deal with all the marketing and new business development crap, just the creative end for the most part.

Don't get me wrong, RISD and Mass Art are great schools and some of the kids coming out of those programs are amazing young designers and artists, and I love seeing some of the work these kids produce.

I don't even know what generation I am supposed to be (born 1976.) I peeked around Google quickly and it told me MTV Generation? WTF? I'm not buying that nonsense.

What a crock of shiat.

/pensively tosses koosh ball around

This is depressing. You can't pigeon-hole people like that. I'm going out.

/Aquanet spray
//quick blow-dry
///adjusts hat pins on jean jacket

Yeah...I am radical.

Doctor Funkenstein: I don't even know what generation I am supposed to be

Generation X. 1965-1980

AirForceVet: I love it when youngsters get hit with a big, fat, flaming dose of reality.

/It smells like victory.

The kids I teach in inner-city PHX are some of the coolest kids you could ever meet. They know reality. And that's why they actually pull for each other. In my whole life, I've never known such a caring group of people. They're stressed out about their future, yet take time on weekends to participate in charity projects via the Phoenix Police Department's "Wake Up" program.

There are LOTS of kids out there who are better human beings than we old farts ever were.

ecmoRandomNumbers:

There are LOTS of kids out there who are better human beings than we old farts ever were.


Can't argue with that... and you're never too old to learn a thing or two from the whippersnappers.

eddyatwork: Doctor Funkenstein: I don't even know what generation I am supposed to be

Generation X. 1965-1980

As long as I can keep my walkman and velcro shoes, I'm in.

eddyatwork: Doctor Funkenstein: I don't even know what generation I am supposed to be

Generation X. 1965-1980

Can I be x-1=y?

keylock71: ecmoRandomNumbers:

There are LOTS of kids out there who are better human beings than we old farts ever were.


Can't argue with that... and you're never too old to learn a thing or two from the whippersnappers.

I educate them, but they school me. :)

I noted the concept of "just be farking glad you even have a job" didn't quite make it into the article, while getting down on your knees and blowing them as a generation was the overwhelming theme.

Must be why the PI is going "bye-bye" in a couple months....

LordZorch: I noted the concept of "just be farking glad you even have a job" didn't quite make it into the article, while getting down on your knees and blowing them as a generation was the overwhelming theme.

Must be why the PI is going "bye-bye" in a couple months....

well, ok. look at it this way...

the boomer generation ran up MASSIVE debts. They were the ones who gambled on the stock market and lost, then demanded that everyone else pay up for their mistakes. baby boomer CEOs ran companies into the ground and collected their $10 million severance packages. Baby boomer CEOs also took bailout money and then gave themselves pay raises and fired a bunch of bottle washers and paper pushers. Baby boomer managers came up with the terms 'right sizing' and 'down sizing' and 'hot coco sampler boxes'. Baby boomers smoked pot and got laid during the entire summer of love, then grew up and told us all that 'drugs were bad/just say no' then forced abstinence only programs on us.

And now baby boomers are telling us that WE have to go without pay raises and that WE have to pay for everything that's gone wrong. yeah, right. guess what? WE decide which retirement home THEY get put into. And I suspect most of those 'homes' will be a van down by the river.....

Tr0mBoNe: I make it known in my interview that the pay doesn't matter as long as I'm doing something interesting and challenging. What I do is more important than anything else.

But I'm not sure when that changed... I think there are entitlement idiots in every generation. It's just now they have myspace to make sure everyone knows they're brooding. It used to be people would just swallow their pride and shovel the shiat.


Well you are probably underpaid then. I make it known in my interviews that I want the salary I want. Then again I do what I do very well and get paid well for it now - I really don't have to many interviews as I stay at places for a 7-10 years.

You like what you do a lot more when you are paid well for it. If you undersell yourself people will think you don't have confidence in your own skills.

I think it's hilarious that a bunch of ex hippies who sold out their values are complaining about anyone else at all.



I weep for the past.

Weaver95: Can I be x-1=y?

Look buddy, I thought I made it clear there would be no math.

Well guess what people... these kids were not raised in seclusion in a cave (well... hobart the dolphin boy was, but he doesn't count). They learned these lessons from somebody and I'm guessing many of them were from the same people writing columns like this.

m0llusk: I love the anger of my Boomer elders, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies. It is about to become a truly dire time to grow old as entitlement programs get strained to their limits and have to be revisited or abandoned. Stay off my lawn-free, food producing restored habitat you cantankerous parasites.

Aawwww, somebody's crotch fruit is angry at their parents still.

/Have you tried counseling or medication?
//Personally I like the medication part.

To the many my age and younger: Economies change, they come back around. Now only the best, most connected or demanded are needed. Deal.

To the many older than me: Economies change, they come back around. You know the drill by now what's your excuse? Oh and check your goddamn email more than once every couple days. Especially if you asked for it in an email and then ask why you haven't gotten it but haven't checked your email in forever and now its buried under a stack of spam.

/I'm not saying everyone. Yes, I know you are an exception.
//Now everyone can equally hate me.

clgrin: Well guess what people... these kids were not raised in seclusion in a cave

A boyfriend's mom once had to start over in her early fifties. Had an education but hadn't worked in a while. She would go to job interviews in open-toed heels with brightly painted nails, gold hoop earrings, denim skirts, etc. Then complained of ageism.

Weaver95: LordZorch: I noted the concept of "just be farking glad you even have a job" didn't quite make it into the article, while getting down on your knees and blowing them as a generation was the overwhelming theme.

Must be why the PI is going "bye-bye" in a couple months....

well, ok. look at it this way...

the boomer generation ran up MASSIVE debts. They were the ones who gambled on the stock market and lost, then demanded that everyone else pay up for their mistakes. baby boomer CEOs ran companies into the ground and collected their $10 million severance packages. Baby boomer CEOs also took bailout money and then gave themselves pay raises and fired a bunch of bottle washers and paper pushers. Baby boomer managers came up with the terms 'right sizing' and 'down sizing' and 'hot coco sampler boxes'. Baby boomers smoked pot and got laid during the entire summer of love, then grew up and told us all that 'drugs were bad/just say no' then forced abstinence only programs on us.

And now baby boomers are telling us that WE have to go without pay raises and that WE have to pay for everything that's gone wrong. yeah, right. guess what? WE decide which retirement home THEY get put into. And I suspect most of those 'homes' will be a van down by the river.....

The win in this post has reached critical levels.

H_is_for_Heretic: clgrin: Well guess what people... these kids were not raised in seclusion in a cave

A boyfriend's mom once had to start over in her early fifties. Had an education but hadn't worked in a while. She would go to job interviews in open-toed heels with brightly painted nails, gold hoop earrings, denim skirts, etc. Then complained of ageism.

Was this in Jersey, by chance?

So I read the whole article (I know, right!) and it seems that even though some GenY'ers are shallow and aloof, a lot of them are proving themselves as intuitive, energetic, and creative enough to be valuable to employers. A lot of them don't even seem afraid of hard work. Thanks for the flamebait headline, oldmitter.

So some of these kids suck. You sucked as a kid too. Don't let your decades of experience and success cause you to forget that.

Weaver95: And now baby boomers are telling us that WE have to go without pay raises and that WE have to pay for everything that's gone wrong.

Excellent comment there.

eddyatwork: Weaver95: And now baby boomers are telling us that WE have to go without pay raises and that WE have to pay for everything that's gone wrong.

Excellent comment there.

I am beyond pissed off at this bailout situation. I am constantly told that somehow and for some reason that I have to meekly accept massive tax increases so that the baby boomers can retire and that a bunch of CEOs can get a $1 million dollar bonus this year.

F*ck that. I'm voting against it. All of it. And i'm strongly encouraging everyone else that I know to vote against it as well. Stand up. say no. And if someone on the Left or the Right tells you that you're being greed - tell 'em to f*ck off. And you can say I said it's alright to look out for yourselves at the expense of the Boomer generation.

hulk hogan meat shoes:

Was this in Jersey, by chance?

Why would you think that?

I hate being lumped in with these little pansies. I was born in 1982 but my boomer parents were, you know, real parents, not coddlers. I've worked for every penny I've ever had, there were no handouts in my home even though my parents could have easily afforded it.

I can remember re-surfacing driveways, cleaning up bird shiat and shoveling snow off of the roofs of the buildings my Dad owned. Now that I think of it...maybe that's why my parents were so well off, because they paid their 4 kids slave wages to take care of all their investment properties :D

\end rant
\\get off my lawn

All the old farts better remember who will be taking care of them in their old age...

Their future was mortgaged by the Reaganites almost 30 years ago. Modern conservatism is destroying America.

As the economy grows less and less open, it actually DOES get harder to get ahead, the various governmental and ingrained societal barriers get harder and harder to break through.

Remember kids, business creates prosperity and government creates oppression, not the other way 'round. Of course, since a lot of Gen-Y believes the opposite, its no wonder that reality gives them a big smack in the face.

Ahh, the culmination of modern parenting, where discipline is "too mean" and out of control children are "expressing themselves". The Obvious tag was well-chosen.