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(Politico) Asinine There are people who are actively rooting for Obama to fail. LGT absolutely no surprises whatsoever   (politico.com) divider line 547
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RussianPooper [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:17:19 AM  
They look so pathetic and spiteful. Like spoiled children who won't accept the fact that they didn't get a pony for Christmas, so they hope everyone else is miserable like them.

 
TiltedKilt 2009-01-18 11:20:11 AM  
FTA: "Michelle Malkin describes it.

Jan. 20 has turned into a schlock inauguration, (where) every last moocher has come to cash in on Obama," says the conservative blogger and pundit. "There are some of us who want to bang our heads against the wall."


By all means, please do. And as hard a possible. And as often as possible.

 
thyocyan [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:21:54 AM  
RussianPooper: They look so pathetic and spiteful. Like spoiled children who won't accept the fact that they didn't get a pony for Christmas, so they hope everyone else is miserable like them.

Kinda like in 2000 and 2004

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:22:36 AM  
RussianPooper: They look so pathetic and spiteful. Like spoiled children who won't accept the fact that they didn't get a pony for Christmas, so they hope everyone else is miserable like them.

Sounds like the last 8 years, just the sides are flipped.

 
MorrisBird [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:23:13 AM  
Be careful, Rush. It's my understanding that whine and oxycontin can be a deadly combination.

 
Generation_D [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:27:09 AM  
Obama's victory was over with in 3 hrs on election night. Bush's took 2 months. You figure out why one is more significant for generating dissent, and the other is just some whining spoiled children complaining about an overwhelming majority that didn't go their way.

 
burndtdan 2009-01-18 11:28:12 AM  
thyocyan: Kinda like in 2000 and 2004

GaryPDX: Sounds like the last 8 years, just the sides are flipped.

2000 was a HIGHLY disputed election. you can't deny that. it is no surprise that people who feel (with a meritorious argument) that the election was won under legally questionable pretenses would be unhappy about it.

by 2004, bush had already gotten us into iraq under false pretenses and, it turns out, had already been committing war crimes. no surprise that some people wouldn't want him in office.

but this time, the election was not disputed, and obama hasn't done anything meriting the derision. not even comparable to bush in any way. people weren't mad at bush because he was a conservative, they were mad at bush because he was a criminal.

that's why even conservatives hate bush.

 
madmann [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:29:24 AM  
thyocyan: RussianPooper: They look so pathetic and spiteful. Like spoiled children who won't accept the fact that they didn't get a pony for Christmas, so they hope everyone else is miserable like them.

Kinda like in 2000 and 2004


So then would you say it worked?

Well, for 78% of them anyway (Bush's current disapproval rating)? Which means the vast majority who voted for him both times?

Stop and think about what those numbers mean. More than half of the people who voted for him disapprove of him now. Which, y'know... would make the people pissed in 2000 & 2004 right.

/All that without mentioning the US's first Supreme Court-appointed President.

 
RussianPooper [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:30:21 AM  
thyocyan: RussianPooper: They look so pathetic and spiteful. Like spoiled children who won't accept the fact that they didn't get a pony for Christmas, so they hope everyone else is miserable like them.

Kinda like in 2000 and 2004


I'll give you 2004, but 2000 was a different story.

 
damageddude [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:31:42 AM  
A-holes. I didn't like W but I never rooted for him to fail. If the President goes down, we all go down with him.

 
JerseyTim [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:31:57 AM  
With Barack Obama's approval ratings in the 70s

That's the past. What about now?!

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:32:21 AM  
burndtdan: that's why even conservatives hate bush.

Better tell Gary that so he can try to work it into his act.

 
thyocyan [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:34:01 AM  
RussianPooper: I'll give you 2004, but 2000 was a different story.

No it's not. If Gore had won, the republicans would have been just as butthurt. It's happened since the beginning of time (or the two-party system). The losing side hopes the winners crap up so they can win.

 
clgrin 2009-01-18 11:34:10 AM  
you know, if the economy does collapse and all the spiteful little bastards lose their jobs, I hope they have the hypocritical decency to go ahead and blame the president for doing what they asked.

 
keylock71 2009-01-18 11:34:41 AM  
Mordant: burndtdan: that's why even conservatives hate bush.

Better tell Gary that so he can try to work it into his act.


Gary doesn't have an act, he's got schtick... and he's amusing the hell out of himself, so let the boy be.

 
BGates [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:36:00 AM  
madmann: Well, for 78% of them anyway (Bush's current disapproval rating)?

According to the CNN link, about 15 headlines below this thread, the number is closer to 68%.

I didn't vote for Obama and don't think he will be a good president, but I want him to prove me wrong. People wishing him to fail have a few nuts loose.

 
me texan [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:36:28 AM  
Seriously. If you're actively rooting for anyone to fail - you're whats wrong with America.

 
JerseyTim [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:37:10 AM  
Rooting for Bush to fail is like rooting for the Mississippi River to flow.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:37:36 AM  
I don't know if Fark ever greenlit, but did anyone see the article by Michael Steele on the stimulus? His basic argument was that Republicans need to stop it because if it goes through and the economy gets better, Obama will win re-election. In other words, we need to stop Obama from actually helping America because people will vote for good Presidents.

 
WTFDYW [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:38:00 AM  
GaryPDX

Please stop it. You only hurt your cause and anyone else with the same political view.

/just let it go man

 
Generation_D [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:38:04 AM  
BGates thats a heroic post, I applaud. I DID vote for Obama, but tried for months to see the benefits McCain could bring. But once he went with Palin and turned things into a freak show for inbreds, it was game over, I had to go with the calm, rational man who actually might live through his 4 years in office.

That and I have nothing but contempt for Bushs presidency. I think you could at least see the merit in that judgement.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:39:04 AM  
Generation_D: BGates thats a heroic post, I applaud.

"Heroic" might be a bit hyperbolic.

 
40yoVirgin [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:39:56 AM  
me texan: Seriously. If you're actively rooting for anyone to fail - you're whats wrong with America.

I agree wholeheartedly.

/continually hoped Bush would actually be a good president
//never hoped he'd fail
///was seriously disappointed

 
GaryPDX [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:40:35 AM  
WTFDYW: GaryPDX

Please stop it. You only hurt your cause and anyone else with the same political view.

/just let it go man


What are you talking about? I've made one comment in here. You could always put me on ignore so you don't have to be offended by my handle, ya know. That goes for the rest of you too, even the Obama employees in here.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:40:54 AM  
me texan: Seriously. If you're actively rooting for anyone to fail - you're whats wrong with America.

This has also been one of the big reasons the GOP opposes health care. They know that if it is implemented people will actually like it and it will move the electorate towards the left forever. So they oppose it.

 
wyltoknow [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:41:32 AM  
Generation_D: Obama's victory was over with in 3 hrs on election night. Bush's took 2 months. You figure out why one is more significant for generating dissent, and the other is just some whining spoiled children complaining about an overwhelming majority that didn't go their way.

No! It's exactly the same! So just because people gave Bush a hard time over that...and the wars he started...and the rights he trampled on...well that gives free license to throw a biatch-fit over Obama's existence damnit!

Now, excuse me. *clears throat* WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

 
TwoHead [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:41:37 AM  
keylock71: ... and he's amusing the hell out of himself us, so let the boy be feed him all the straight lines you can.

FTFM

 
RussianPooper [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:44:24 AM  
DamnYankees: me texan: Seriously. If you're actively rooting for anyone to fail - you're whats wrong with America.

This has also been one of the big reasons the GOP opposes health care. They know that if it is implemented people will actually like it and it will move the electorate towards the left forever. So they oppose it.


They were pissed when Clinton passed welfare reform, because THEY were supposed to get credit for that!

/It's never really about America, is it?

 
keylock71 2009-01-18 11:44:27 AM  
Just wait until Tuesday... that when the whining, whinging, pouting, and moaning of the Sour Grapes Gang should be at it's most amusing and entertaining...

images1.wikia.nocookie.net

"One banana, Two banana, Three banana, Four..."

 
ChewbaccaJones [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:48:24 AM  
I am shocked to hear Limbaugh and Malkin are attacking Obama and
the left. They have been so reasonable until now.

They are not conservative leaders. They are very well-paid
conservative pundits for the right. Their core audience are the
same people who thought it was a good idea to make Joe the
Plumber
a war correspondent and think that Fox is actually fair and
balanced. For Chrissakes, these are the people whose
contribution to the media during the election consisted of
racist t-shirts comparing Obama to a monkey and accusing him of
performing a "terrorist fist bump" (WTF?!)

Two years ago Limbaugh was downing bottles of oxycontin and
making racist accusations against Donovan McNabb on a
nation-wide radio show while Bill O'Reilly was making obscene
phone calls to employees late at night while didlling his
cornhole with a vibrator...

...are these really the people you want to get your political
views from?

 
RoxtarRyan [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:48:28 AM  
That's kind of pathetic, to hope that your president fails.

 
I Said [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:49:49 AM  
My family, as republican as they are, swear up and down that "although he wasn't my choice, he's my President, I stand by him, and I hope he's a great President"

Whining like that in TFA pisses me off.

 
Doublek111 2009-01-18 11:51:16 AM  
damageddude: A-holes. I didn't like W but I never rooted for him to fail. If the President goes down, we all go down with him.

Exactly. I'm not an O supporter but I don't want him to fail. Of course the entirety of Washington is summed up FTA:

"Especially in the Beltway," she said, "they are more wrapped up in who got invited to what dinner and who didn't.

 
Snowflake Tubbybottom 2009-01-18 11:53:51 AM  
I don't know how much of it has been hyper criticism of events or actually rooting for failure but even before the guy took office how many of you out there thought or said this was not going to be your president because of the Florida debacle? You can see how that might be considered rooting for failure.

Approval history chart: Link (new window)

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:54:48 AM  
And Malkin, Limbaugh, and their ilk would go into near apoplexy when people said of Bush, "He's not my president."

I may not like Bush, but I never once hoped he'd fail. The presidents' failures are our failures.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:55:17 AM  
Snowflake Tubbybottom: I don't know how much of it has been hyper criticism of events or actually rooting for failure but even before the guy took office how many of you out there thought or said this was not going to be your president because of the Florida debacle? You can see how that might be considered rooting for failure.

Approval history chart: Link (new window)


I don't see a connection between the anger of the 2000 recount/illegitimacy and hoping Bush would fail. No one - no one - should hope their government fails.

 
TheOther [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 11:56:18 AM  
From their perspective, I can understand the point of hoping Obama fails to implement some of his programs. Their entire political view depends on minimum taxes, so it's impossible for them to believe raising taxes or reviving the inheritance tax will improve an already perilous economic situation rather than making it worse.

At some point, though, hoping for Obama to fail is also hoping for America to fail. Doing so as payback for 2000, which was payback for the impeachment, which was payback for Clinton stopping the 'Reagan Revolution', which was payback for the 1964 mushroom cloud commercial against Goldwater...

Will history record the fall of America was due to butthurt?

 
Kevin5280 2009-01-18 11:57:16 AM  
"There are some of us who want to bang our heads against the wall."

Judging by the subjects and quality of your columns, Malkin, I'm guessing you already do that quite often.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:01:35 PM  
DamnYankees: No one - no one - should hope their government fails.

Well, there IS Zimbabwe, North Korea, etc. But we're a good way off from being that bad. ;-)

 
Snowflake Tubbybottom 2009-01-18 12:01:49 PM  
TheOther: At some point, though, hoping for Obama to fail is also hoping for America to fail.

How about if you just don't want his policies to be enacted? Do you think that is inviting failure for the country or just failure of his leadership?

Did democrats want Bush's social security reform? No? Well they must have been rooting for America's failure. You can see how that game plays out.

 
RussianPooper [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:01:59 PM  
There's a difference between expecting failure and cheerleading for it.

 
Kevin5280 2009-01-18 12:03:01 PM  
Can someone tell me what happened to the Republican mantra of supporting your president unconditionally during times of war and respecting the office. Or was that rule only in effect from Jan. 20, 2001 - Jan. 19, 2009?

 
Kevin5280 2009-01-18 12:06:47 PM  
"He would announce to the world: 'We are in crisis, we are at war, people are losing jobs; we are not going to have this party. Instead, I'm going to get sworn in at the White House. I'm going to have a nice little chicken dinner, and we'll save the $125 million.'"

I don't recall DeLay being this critical of Bush when he was golfing while soldiers were dying, strumming on the guitar while New Orleans drowned, or setting the record for vacation time for a President. Interesting choice on the dinner there, too, Tommy Boy.

 
Diogenes [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:07:41 PM  
Kevin5280: Interesting choice on the dinner there, too, Tommy Boy.

I raised my eyebrow on that one, too.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:08:36 PM  
Diogenes: DamnYankees: No one - no one - should hope their government fails.

Well, there IS Zimbabwe, North Korea, etc. But we're a good way off from being that bad. ;-)


I disagree. I think the people in those countries would *love* for their governments to actually succeed. Unfortunately they suck right now.

Snowflake Tubbybottom: How about if you just don't want his policies to be enacted? Do you think that is inviting failure for the country or just failure of his leadership?

The question is why do you not want his policies enacted? Is it because you think they will make America worse or because you think they will make your party worse? Most of the comments from conservatives have been much more the latter.

 
Scrophulous Barking Duck 2009-01-18 12:09:42 PM  
clgrin you know, if the economy does collapse and all the spiteful little bastards lose their jobs, I hope they have the hypocritical decency to go ahead and blame the president for doing what they asked.


Dude, where have you been? We're already in the crapper. Obama is inheriting a mess.

 
RussianPooper [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:11:12 PM  
Kevin5280: "He would announce to the world: 'We are in crisis, we are at war, people are losing jobs; we are not going to have this party. Instead, I'm going to get sworn in at the White House. I'm going to have a nice little chicken dinner, and we'll save the $125 million.'"

I don't recall DeLay being this critical of Bush when he was golfing while soldiers were dying, strumming on the guitar while New Orleans drowned, or setting the record for vacation time for a President. Interesting choice on the dinner there, too, Tommy Boy.


If McCain had won, he would have said that the country "needed the lift this would bring and would rally the country all together around their president in this tough time", or some other claptrap. Why do we even pay attention to this criminal anymore?

 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:11:16 PM  
RussianPooper: /It's never really about America, is it?

Nope. It's about rooting for your football team.

We monkeys haven't really fallen far from the tree. None of us.

Galileo, Einstein, Mozart, Darwin, Hawking, Sagan, Curie, Beethoven, Gates, et altri, belong to our species, yet we are STILL monkeys that just fell out of the trees.

There are monkeys who root for their own tribe, and there are SLIGHTLY more intelligent monkeys who root for their whole species.

 
TheOther [TotalFark] 2009-01-18 12:12:42 PM  
Snowflake Tubbybottom: TheOther: At some point, though, hoping for Obama to fail is also hoping for America to fail.

How about if you just don't want his policies to be enacted? Do you think that is inviting failure for the country or just failure of his leadership?

Did democrats want Bush's social security reform? No? Well they must have been rooting for America's failure. You can see how that game plays out


Hence, the 'at some point'. I thought I specified a difference between hoping that his programs don't get implemented and hoping that he fails? With tax policy as an example?

 
Snowflake Tubbybottom 2009-01-18 12:16:16 PM  
DamnYankees: The question is why do you not want his policies enacted? Is it because you think they will make America worse or because you think they will make your party worse? Most of the comments from conservatives have been much more the latter.

Put me in the former category to a sort. He's a likable and good man but myself being among the rarest of all political persuasions, believing in small government and fiscal responsibility yet socially moderate, I do not want the ever increasing move to socialism and increased government control. Since the GOP has left that position long ago they can go fark themselves.

 
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