The intarwebz make them so much easier to watch.

It's like watching competency only in reverse.

NewportBarGuy: The intarwebz make them so much easier to watch.

It's like watching competency only in reverse.

The ones I worry about are the skinheads and good ol' boys I see sitting in parked vehicles, talking for hours...

/lulz now it's on teh intarwebs enjoi ur buttseks racists!

Occam's Chainsaw: The ones I worry about are the skinheads and good ol' boys I see sitting in parked vehicles, talking for hours...

We can't regulate loners. We can try, but it's pretty much impossible.

NewportBarGuy: We can't regulate loners. We can try, but it's pretty much impossible.

Yah, it's just something I've noticed that is probably 100% innocuous (or just obnoxious), but still causes itty bitty red flags. They're probably just nipping a hip flask and biatching about their wives while out of rolling pin range.

I see what you did there subby, and I like it.

ambassador_ahab: see what you did there subby, and I like it.

What, copying this guy (TF only)? (Unless it's the same subby, of course...)

Two Dogs Farking: What, copying this guy (TF only)? (Unless it's the same subby, of course...)

Oops. Missed that one.

Serious opinion: These nutjobs can hate minorities all they want, and babble on about "white power," wear black armbands or whatever. I 100% support their freedom of speech. I do NOT support them hurting somebody or damaging property. I mean, I think Dubya was/is a shiatty president, and disagree with a lot of his choices. But me sharing a negative opinion and me harming the president (or his property,) are 2 very different things.

Moral of the story: Fly your upside-down flags, wear your armbands, and write angry letters to your newspaper (if you know how to read) all you want, but your beliefs don't make you exempt from the laws. BUT, shoot somebody, burn somebody's house down (even if its not the president,) and you belong in PMITA prison.

NewportBarGuy: Occam's Chainsaw: The ones I worry about are the skinheads and good ol' boys I see sitting in parked vehicles, talking for hours...

We can't regulate loners. We can try, but it's pretty much impossible.

Loners? No, these cowards need strength in numbers. They can't operate without reinforcement from their band of merry madmen. Like any fringe ideology, they feed on the rabidity of the people closest to them. Also, like cults who focus on "purity" and "virtue", as narrowly defined, they're heavy on the perceived persecution and ascendancy of the few "chosen". It all stems from feeling inferior. As they should, for being a gaggle of sister farking waterheads.

Also, a doff of the cap to subby. Well played sir!

Sure, they're watching the neo-Nazis and such (easy enough to do - these guys tend to stand out in crowds and have big mouths in general), but if you look at actual attempts on Presidents over the last 50 years or so, most of the ones that got further than talking about it were from crazy leftists (except for the one nut who tried to shoot the President to impress a girl).

There's probably at least nutter out there right now planning on doing something stupid because Obama hasn't promised enough support for vegan lunches for elementary school children.

cirby: Sure, they're watching the neo-Nazis and such (easy enough to do - these guys tend to stand out in crowds and have big mouths in general), but if you look at actual attempts on Presidents over the last 50 years or so, most of the ones that got further than talking about it were from crazy leftists (except for the one nut who tried to shoot the President to impress a girl).

There's probably at least nutter out there right now planning on doing something stupid because Obama hasn't promised enough support for vegan lunches for elementary school children.

Did you lose your copy of Fallout Bunker Monthly and decide to come bother us to pass the time?

Aren't those people terrorists? Maybe we should start profiling them and sticking them in GITMO just to be safe.

cirby: but if you look at actual attempts on Presidents over the last 50 years or so, most of the ones that got further than talking about it were from crazy leftists (except for the one nut who tried to shoot the President to impress a girl).

I'm not that versed on presidential assasination attemps, but other that Oswald, who do you have in the "crazy leftist" group?

Flab: cirby: but if you look at actual attempts on Presidents over the last 50 years or so, most of the ones that got further than talking about it were from crazy leftists (except for the one nut who tried to shoot the President to impress a girl).

I'm not that versed on presidential assasination attemps, but other that Oswald, who do you have in the "crazy leftist" group?

Well, mostly they have just been insane rather than truly being political. There were two other plots against Kennedy, one by a right-winger and one by Cubans, there was one nutball who plotted to assassinate Nixon (the "Taxi Driver" inspiration), another who tried to fly a plane into the White House. Two attempts on Ford, one by the Manson family and one by a radical leftist. One mentally ill homeless guy tried to get near Carter with a pistol. Hinckley went after Reagan. The Iraqis tried to get GHWB. Two nutjobs tried to kill Clinton, including the guy who flew a plane into the White House lawn. Three people went after W, including one mentally ill guy, Al Qaeda, and the guy who tried to throw a grenade at him in Europe.

SO, not so much "leftist" as most of the attempts were made by certifiable mental patients. But yeah, of the political attempts they had been slightly more likely to be radical leftists.

Edsel:
SO, not so much "leftist" as most of the attempts were made by certifiable mental patients.

But you repeat yourself. Radical Leftist politics has a natural inclination towards violence and murder, it's only natural that the insane would-be assassins were probably politically Left too. But considering how much the country's liberals worship Obama, I expect they (radicals, not all liberals) might try to assassinate his opponents instead. Popular Republican politicians like Sarah Palin would be the more likely targets.

Is Robert Byrd being watched :) ?

Let's hope it goes over smoothly.

If somebody shoots the President, there will be riots in the streets where inner-city people will loot and burn their own property.

Nobody wants that.

Although deceased, his fan club is on the watch list.

No Such Agency: Radical Leftist politics has a natural inclination towards violence and murder, it's only natural that the insane would-be assassins were probably politically Left too. But considering how much the country's liberals worship Obama, I expect they (radicals, not all liberals) might try to assassinate his opponents instead. Popular Republican politicians like Sarah Palin would be the more likely targets.


As opposed to the radical right, who talk other people into doing their dirty work.

Should be watching the Jewish Supremacist groups, too. If you cross the Chosen with one of your policies, watch out! Just ask JFK about that.

And then ask Jack Rubinstein why he killed Oswald--it wasn't for the reasons they give you on the History Channel, either. Rubinstein was a Mossad agent in America.

cirby: Sure, they're watching the neo-Nazis and such .

You figure the Neo-Nazi's would support Obama what with his political and Economic veiws so mirroring their own, minus of course the Rascism and rabid Nationalism.

Groups of "skin-heads" are not to be worried about. As stated earlier they are cowards, even in groups. they will only attack the weak and defenseless.

The loners are the one's to worry about. They do not have the chicken-shiat cowardice of the rest holding them back. They are alone becuae they see the weakness and trendiness of the other "Skins". The true wackos see the Neo-Nazi Skin-heads as posers and cowards. True American Skin would not associate with Neo-Nazi's anyway. Goes against the American way to be National Socialist. The real wackos you would not even recognize. Probably would emulate the suede-heads if they went for any skin style and be rascist and Christian. thye would look like your typical working class schmo and then KAPLOW!

Glad to see thought crime will still be punishable by law and strip you of your rights under the Obama administration.

How is this any different than racially profiling Arabs at security checkpoints? Watch people who make threats, yes. Not just because they're ignorant racists.

changeit: Should be watching the Jewish Supremacist groups, too. If you cross the Chosen with one of your policies, watch out! Just ask JFK about that.

What about ZOG? Do we need to be watching ZOG, too?

Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2009-01-17 03:23:12 AM
NewportBarGuy: The intarwebz make them so much easier to watch.

It's like watching competency only in reverse.

The ones I worry about are the skinheads and good ol' boys I see sitting in parked vehicles, talking for hours...

You're doing it wrong. The ones you need to worry about are the ones that make sure nobody sees them talking.

multiloquax: No, these cowards need strength in numbers. They can't operate without reinforcement from their band of merry madmen. Like any fringe ideology, they feed on the rabidity of the people closest to them. Also, like cults who focus on "purity" and "virtue", as narrowly defined, they're heavy on the perceived persecution and ascendancy of the few "chosen". It all stems from feeling inferior. As they should, for being a gaggle of sister farking waterheads.

Are you talking about Obama cult members?

Murkanen:

cirby: Sure, they're watching the neo-Nazis and such (easy enough to do - these guys tend to stand out in crowds and have big mouths in general), but if you look at actual attempts on Presidents over the last 50 years or so, most of the ones that got further than talking about it were from crazy leftists (except for the one nut who tried to shoot the President to impress a girl).

There's probably at least nutter out there right now planning on doing something stupid because Obama hasn't promised enough support for vegan lunches for elementary school children.


Did you lose your copy of Fallout Bunker Monthly and decide to come bother us to pass the time?


Mmmm.... "but if you look at actual attempts on Presidents over the last 50 years or so, most of the ones that got further than talking about it were from crazy leftists " ... what about this statement is incorrect?

No Such Agency Quote 2009-01-17 09:16:01 AM
Edsel:
SO, not so much "leftist" as most of the attempts were made by certifiable mental patients.

But you repeat yourself. Radical Leftist politics has a natural inclination towards violence and murder, it's only natural that the insane would-be assassins were probably politically Left too. But considering how much the country's liberals worship Obama, I expect they (radicals, not all liberals) might try to assassinate his opponents instead. Popular Republican politicians like Sarah Palin would be the more likely targets.


No, "love scorned" is a powerful emotion and motivator. The attempt on Obama, when it comes, will likely be from a fanatical leftwing follower who thinks Obama has "betrayed the Revolution" or whatever. will this person be technically nuts? Probably.

/or at least this is what the people at Parallax want you to think.
//obscure?

...and that's about the time Blackberry sales skyrocketed because they came out with an Obama edition. Blackberry's are stupid. The phone that looks like a calculator, for idiots.

bulldg4life 2009-01-17 08:21:42 AM
Aren't those people terrorists? Maybe we should start profiling them and sticking them in GITMO just to be safe.


So we get to keep GTMO open then??? I knew we could agree on this..

a call by the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan for its members to wear black armbands and fly the U.S. flag upside down

Its a shame people still think like this.

What the hell? My comment posted to the wrong thread...

Never...

EVER...

insult an Italian skinhead's mother.

/experience is the best teacher

bookman: Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2009-01-17 03:23:12 AM
NewportBarGuy: The intarwebz make them so much easier to watch.

It's like watching competency only in reverse.

The ones I worry about are the skinheads and good ol' boys I see sitting in parked vehicles, talking for hours...

You're doing it wrong. The ones you need to worry about are the ones that make sure nobody sees them talking.

Pretty much. In clubs, I've had to work shows with skins--which, when you consider that the owner and the GM were both Jewish, was sort of funny. It is rarely the rank and file that are the really dangerous ones. They can be violent and nasty, but at every one of those shows, you'd get a few button down types. Not wearing the uniform, not skinned down, and looking pretty damn normal. And quiet. I much prefer dealing with open skins--there is at least an honesty to their hate. The leadership, the ones who handle the money and work the real harm, those are the folks who are far more dangerous. You shouldn't fear the gun, or even the hand or eye that aims, but the mind that puts the whole thing into motion.

The skins in their uniforms and singing loud and proud, those are just tools--and any tool can be a weapon if you hold it right.

thatmanfromtexas: NOT A DANGER TO OBAMA...

Ah, look at the cute white supremacist couple.

It's hilarious, the balls on these people. They're going to look at a Harvard educated Constitutional scholar who just got elected the President of the United States and scream, "white supremacy!" from their trailer parks after their shift as security at Wal*Mart.

bookman: multiloquax: No, these cowards need strength in numbers. They can't operate without reinforcement from their band of merry madmen. Like any fringe ideology, they feed on the rabidity of the people closest to them. Also, like cults who focus on "purity" and "virtue", as narrowly defined, they're heavy on the perceived persecution and ascendancy of the few "chosen". It all stems from feeling inferior. As they should, for being a gaggle of sister farking waterheads.

Are you talking about Obama cult members?

Damn son, you were rolled in retard and deep fried in dumb, weren't ya? Go back to your tar paper shack, stick yer dick back in your mom, and keeping dreaming that the Turner Diaries will come true. farking waste of flesh.

Mugato: It's hilarious, the balls on these people. They're going to look at a Harvard educated Constitutional scholar who just got elected the President of the United States and scream, "white supremacy!" from their trailer parks after their shift as security at Wal*Mart.

Bush is a Harvard graduate who was elected President of the United States, too

What has David Duke said? If he has made any threats, arrest him, the law is clear. Have any threats been made?

or

is Brian Levin, having a fund raising drive for his Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism?

The Southern Poverty Law Center is also "monitoring" these "hate" groups. Oh Goodie. They need to add to the $120 million they already have.
The Church of Morris Dees - How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance

"In 1986, the center's entire legal staff quit in protest of Dees's refusal to address issues--such as homelessness, voter registration, and affirmative action... Another lawyer... told reporters that the center's programs were calculated to cash in on "black pain and white guilt."

Someone on craigslist signed up my junk email account with emails from Storm Front, some kind of white supremacist site.

Anyway, I went there out of curiosity and it was just pathetic. One thread had them arguing over whether Eastern Europeans were white, and then you'd get the Eastern European white supremacists on there pleading their case that they are, in fact, white. That part was amusing.

That's what white (or any) supremacy leads into. An unattainable race standard (i.e. aryan) where most people who claim it do actually meet the requirements. It was beautiful to see them publicly run into that roadblock.

A Tout Le Monde: Someone on craigslist signed up my junk email account with emails from Storm Front, some kind of white supremacist site.

Anyway, I went there out of curiosity and it was just pathetic. One thread had them arguing over whether Eastern Europeans were white, and then you'd get the Eastern European white supremacists on there pleading their case that they are, in fact, white. That part was amusing.

That's what white (or any) supremacy leads into. An unattainable race standard (i.e. aryan) where most people who claim it do don't actually meet the requirements. It was beautiful to see them publicly run into that roadblock.

FTFM

deltabourne: Mugato: It's hilarious, the balls on these people. They're going to look at a Harvard educated Constitutional scholar who just got elected the President of the United States and scream, "white supremacy!" from their trailer parks after their shift as security at Wal*Mart.

Bush is a Harvard graduate who was elected President of the United States, too

to be fair, bush was a c student and legacy admission to harvard business. hardly the same thing as being president of the harvard law review.

What David Duke had to say about this:

CNN just ran on January 16, a hateful piece called White supremacists watched in lead up to Obama administration. The article implies that people like me are creating a climate that could endanger Obama. First off, once more I must say that I am not in any way a White supremacist, but a White civil rights advocate who believes that Whites just like every other people have the right to defend and preserve their heritage and rights. Unlike the Jewish supremacists who have murdered thousands of Palestinians in pursuit of Jewish supremacy I have always condemned violence and illegality by anyone. Even more importantly, I have made it clear for all awakened White people who read my articles and hear my voice that any physical attack on Obama would be an evil act that would also have catastrophic results for the rights and heritage of White Americans. As usual, the CNN article carefully left out the fact that I have worked very hard to tell any White person who will listen that such a deed would have terrible consequences. If the media really wants Obama to be safe it would seem to me that they should inform whoever is reading that the best known White spokesman in the world would condemn any attack on Obama and that I have clearly stated that it would be an incredible danger to White rights, freedom and heritage. Instead, the media falsely implies the very opposite of my position. That fact is very, very scary. What are their intentions?

Here is copy of the original article on the danger of an Obama assassination back in October -- David Duke


The Greatest Danger from Obama:

Assassination (new window)!

How a possible assassination would be a tragedy not only for Obama and his family, it would be an absolute catastrophe for the rights and heritage of European Americans.

By David Duke

The greatest danger to European Americans has not been the election of Barack Hussein Obama as President of the United States. A far greater catastrophe would be his assassination.

As White activists have pointed out, the election of Obama along with the rapidly changing demographics of America is a powerful wakeup call to European Americans. His election makes clear that we are losing the nation and principles of our forefathers. It has already led to a dramatic increase in our ranks.

We must also be aware that Obama is not the cause of our losing the America of our forefathers. He is the effect - not the cause....


So you may think David Duke is a terrible bigot. That is not the issue. The issue is why CNN with input from "anti-hate" groups would concoct a fantasy to scare people.

love the headline.

You can watch us all you want.

We will be there for the annointing of your Messiah.

You best not try to stop us from exercising our rights.

Stormfront itself says such rumblings are a media plot and/or a Jew plot (new window) to misdirect attention to the 'usual suspects' instead of whoever would really want to take him out once Obama does something that the powers that be don't like.

Most are saying, in the above Stormfront thread, that they'd rather watch Obama fail on record, than become a martyr. And it's a pretty long thread.

I have to agree with them. If Obama is going to be taken out, it's not going to be by garden variety white supremacists. It's totally going to be an inside job.

GoodasGold:
So you may think David Duke is a terrible bigot. That is not the issue. The issue is why CNN with input from "anti-hate" groups would concoct a fantasy to scare people.

You know why, and I know why. I hope others know why.

hubiestubert:
Pretty much. In clubs, I've had to work shows with skins--which, when you consider that the owner and the GM were both Jewish, was sort of funny. It is rarely the rank and file that are the really dangerous ones. They can be violent and nasty, but at every one of those shows, you'd get a few button down types. Not wearing the uniform, not skinned down, and looking pretty damn normal. And quiet. I much prefer dealing with open skins--there is at least an honesty to their hate. The leadership, the ones who handle the money and work the real harm, those are the folks who are far more dangerous. You shouldn't fear the gun, or even the hand or eye that aims, but the mind that puts the whole thing into motion.

The skins in their uniforms and singing loud and proud, those are just tools--and any tool can be a weapon if you hold it right.

Dude, they're not pretending to be anything, and they're probably not even the leadership. Most people don't run around screaming out hymns and speaking in tongues outside of church, either. The majority of any given tribe is moderate enough on their free time, typically.

What I'm saying here is that no one's a Black Panther or Nation of Islamite every minute of the damn day. Most of the time they're haulin ass, gettin' paid like everyone else.

//Did I miss any groups of fanatics of questionable conviction in there? Throw la Raza in while I'm at it, they're openly racist and don't actually do much as well.