Being popular is not the same thing as being right. I'll wait for 10 years for a historical perspective before I close the book.

bearsfolks: Being popular is not the same thing as being right. I'll wait for 10 years for a historical perspective before I close the book.

You might want to wait 80 or so. After 30 years the democracy may
start to work well in Iraq, but it is going to take another 50 to
take the varnish off the level of stupid he shat on the office of
president.

...on the upside, his daughters are semi-humpable.

Iraq could have a big ol' democracy cakewalk starting tomorrow and it still wouldn't change all the lies and Constitution butt wiping that the Bush administration did.

Not to mention the gross incompetence in all other areas.

bearsfolks: Being popular is not the same thing as being right. I'll wait for 10 years for a historical perspective before I close the book.

At first I wasn't sure, but I think I like the ring of 22 percenter.

And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

More government dependence, higher taxes and a weaker military.

Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

TheConvincingSavant: Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You wish.

What are you going to do when you're wrong... yet again?

I will always remember the immortal words of Tupac:

And though it seems heaven-sent
We ain't ready
to see a black president.

TheConvincingSavant: And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

No... Oh, no you did not.


/You remembered Poland.

Calmamity: TheConvincingSavant: Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You wish.

What are you going to do when you're wrong... yet again?

Blame his wife

But Mr. Bush enjoyed a high approval rating of 90 percent -- the highest of any president -- following the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001.

Mr. Bush edged out his father for that highest rating. George H.W. Bush received an 88 percent approval rating in 1991 amid the success of the first Gulf War.

Be realistic, here. These "presidential approval ratings" are actually "Hey, we're Americans, let's all get behind the President as a symbol of American solidarity" ratings.

bearsfolks: Being popular is not the same thing as being right. I'll wait for 10 years for a historical perspective before I close the book.

there isn't much for him to be proven right about.

-iraq had no WMD, so the basis for invasion was false
-torture is and always has been a crime
-warrentless wiretapping was a crime
-new orleans isn't going to suddenly not have been destroyed
-osama bin laden will still have survived for 7 years after attacking us

really, at this point it's just a question of who will or won't be prosecuted.

burndtdan: -new orleans isn't going to suddenly not have been destroyed

Because George Bush personally destroyed New Orleans. If you are going to cherry pick specific issues to make him look bad, at least pick ones he could do something about. It's not like it's that difficult.

Looks like that "farewell tour" is working about as well as the rest of his presidency...

TheConvincingSavant: And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

More government dependence, higher taxes and a weaker military.

Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You mean he'll gut your precious Core?

thyocyan: burndtdan: -new orleans isn't going to suddenly not have been destroyed

Because George Bush personally destroyed New Orleans. If you are going to cherry pick specific issues to make him look bad, at least pick ones he could do something about. It's not like it's that difficult.

So how about, "Post-Katrina recovery won't suddenly have been carried out in a professional manner"?

The fact he made it through his whole presidency without being shot or assassinated just goes the level of apathy that afflicts this nation.

Occam's Chainsaw: thyocyan: burndtdan: -new orleans isn't going to suddenly not have been destroyed

Because George Bush personally destroyed New Orleans. If you are going to cherry pick specific issues to make him look bad, at least pick ones he could do something about. It's not like it's that difficult.

So how about, "Post-Katrina recovery won't suddenly have been carried out in a professional manner"?

You can't give him the entire blame for that either. I'm glad he's gone too, but, speaking as somebody who lives here, Louisiana was a corrupt shiathole long before he was even born, will continue to be so long after he's dead, and more than likely post-Katrina recovery would've been a massive clusterfark no matter who was in the White House. Our own homegrown assholes deserve most of the blame for that giant pile of fail.

burndtdan: -osama bin laden will still have survived for 7 years after attacking us

It's a nit-pick, but he first targeted and attacked Americans in 1998.

Last One Left: burndtdan: -osama bin laden will still have survived for 7 years after attacking us

It's a nit-pick, but he first targeted and attacked Americans in 1998.

But, he DID survive that missile attack that was supposed to take him out. You remember? The excessive one that was only done to take folks' minds off Monica Lewinsky? Remember how Billy over reacted?

hubiestubert: TheConvincingSavant: And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

More government dependence, higher taxes and a weaker military.

Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You mean he'll gut your precious Core?

Careful, his wife might get angry.

afghanwhiggle: hubiestubert: TheConvincingSavant: And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

More government dependence, higher taxes and a weaker military.

Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You mean he'll gut your precious Core?

Careful, his wife might get angry.

afghanwhiggle: hubiestubert: TheConvincingSavant: And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

More government dependence, higher taxes and a weaker military.

Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You mean he'll gut your precious Core?

Careful, his wife might get angry.

afghanwhiggle: hubiestubert: TheConvincingSavant: And now we get another guy who will rule by the poles.

More government dependence, higher taxes and a weaker military.

Can Obama take a bad situation and make it worse?

Yes he can! Yes he will!

You mean he'll gut your precious Core?

Careful, his wife might get angry.

Taking TCS seriously is about as likely as someone asking me for hair care tips.

I think W did exactly what he was hired to do.

He destroyed the economy, enslaving millions of Americans in debt.
Further destabilized the Middle East, thus ensuring perpetual war in the region.
Removed Constitutional rights.
Strengthened the office of the President.
Deepened xenophobia, thus weakening the organization of the People.
Allowed robber barons to plunder everything they could carry for 8 years.
Created huge profits for his oil industry cronies.
Created huge opportunity for Haliburton, KBR, Lokheed-Martin, etc.

Yup, he served his masters well.

Mission Accomplished.

El Freak: You can't give him the entire blame for that either. I'm glad he's gone too, but, speaking as somebody who lives here, Louisiana was a corrupt shiathole long before he was even born, will continue to be so long after he's dead, and more than likely post-Katrina recovery would've been a massive clusterfark no matter who was in the White House. Our own homegrown assholes deserve most of the blame for that giant pile of fail.

Oh, there's plenty of fail to go around for the whole post-Katrina clusterfark. The problems were systemic at the local, state, and federal levels. But Bush definitely gets his share, and Brownie's share.

RagingLeonard: I think W did exactly what he was hired to do.

He destroyed the economy, enslaving millions of Americans in debt.
Further destabilized the Middle East, thus ensuring perpetual war in the region.
Removed Constitutional rights.
Strengthened the office of the President.
Deepened xenophobia, thus weakening the organization of the People.
Allowed robber barons to plunder everything they could carry for 8 years.
Created huge profits for his oil industry cronies.
Created huge opportunity for Haliburton, KBR, Lokheed-Martin, etc.

Yup, he served his masters well.

Mission Accomplished.



Look here Mr. Sarcastic...I understand you have a bone to pick
with our commander-in-cheeef...tell me this though; thanks to the no
child left behind act:

Is our, or isn't our childrens learning?

hubiestubert: But, he DID survive that missile attack that was supposed to take him out. You remember?

I remember. I wished then, as I do now, that he rode that missile like Major Kong. He never was not much of a sport, though.

thyocyan: burndtdan: -new orleans isn't going to suddenly not have been destroyed

Because George Bush personally destroyed New Orleans. If you are going to cherry pick specific issues to make him look bad, at least pick ones he could do something about. It's not like it's that difficult.

i don't think you grasp what i was saying.

new orleans is STILL farked up. it STILL hasn't been restored. it is still more or less destroyed. that's something he could do something about.

and of course, like someone else mentioned, the response was a disaster. that's assuredly something he could do something about.

those things will not miraculously undo themselves.

Deadhouseplants: The fact he made it through his whole presidency without being shot or assassinated just goes the level of apathy that afflicts this nation.

No, he had a GREAT life insurance policy.....DICK CHENEY!

All I have to say is this: it could have been worse.

CtrlAltDelete: All I have to say is this: it could have been worse.

What? Global Thermonuclear War?

NewportBarGuy: What? Global Thermonuclear War?

Yes.

CtrlAltDelete: All I have to say is this: it could have been worse.

I'll humor you: how?

Difficulty: the republic must maintain solvency.

RagingLeonard: I think W did exactly what he was hired to do.

He destroyed the economy, enslaving millions of Americans in debt.
Further destabilized the Middle East, thus ensuring perpetual war in the region.
Removed Constitutional rights.
Strengthened the office of the President.
Deepened xenophobia, thus weakening the organization of the People.
Allowed robber barons to plunder everything they could carry for 8 years.
Created huge profits for his oil industry cronies.
Created huge opportunity for Haliburton, KBR, Lokheed-Martin, etc.

Yup, he served his masters well.

Mission Accomplished.

THIS. 100%

/ Explained this to my nephew over xmas almost word for word.
// I find nothing sarcastic about it.

CtrlAltDelete: All I have to say is this: it could have been worse.

We're at war with two countries, a good section of the world just hates us, our economy is in shambles--and we've taken a bunch of our allies down the same road--and our trading partners are up schist creek as well, the Middle East has a few shooting wars of their own, Pakistan and India have got ratcheting tensions, Russia holds the energy card for Europe, and China is getting antsy as it begins to realize that holding onto US debt may not be the envious position that they thought it would be. And as a defensive measure, we've got OPEC considering leaving the dollar as their standard for trade--though, at least they're holding off on that until they see what the Euro does thanks to the banking crisis world wide. States are facing budget shortfalls early, education is falling into the crapper, we have infrastructure that's been ignored for years that is literally falling apart in states across the country, weather cycles are screwy, we're looking at odd storm seasons, a growing dead zone in the Gulf, we're watching species die off across the oceans, and the ice caps are doing odd things, and possibly watching the fresh water melt off kill off the current that fuels most of the weather cycles we've come to rely upon. Yeah, it could be crazy worse...

Views of Mr. Bush's popularity are highly partisan. Only 6 percent of Democrats approve of the job he has done as president, while 57 percent of Republicans approve. 100 percent of Fark Independents approve.

FTFT.

Naturally this thread's PITA is rated devout commie for headline.
Probably because it fails to also mention that the 'final
approval rating' cited is CBS's and ONLY CBS's poll average.
It is not indicitive of the over-all final approval rating of
George W. Bush's presidency, at all. Of course, it is natural for
hearts blackened with hate to pick & choose the worst of the lot.
The reality is, his rating isn't the worst 'evar', overall.

For Example:

Pew Research says 24% (new window)

Wall Street Journal says 27% (new window)

American Research Group says 28% with 5% 'Undecided' (new window)

Gallup Poll says 34% (new window)

ABC News Poll says his final approval rating is 32% (new window)

Fox News final Approval rating is 30% / Over-All Approval rating - 51% (new window)

In fact, the ONE and ONLY final approval rating that 22% is CBS.
EVERYONE else is higher (new window) , albeit, not by much.

But to be fair, saying 'President George W. Bush leaves office
with the worst approval rating EVAR'is a total and
complete falsehood. He definitely has ONE of the worst final
approval ratings for sure, though.

Harry Truman left office with an OVERALL rating of 22%, but later
after his death he was found to have been a "good President" at
worst and a "great President" at best. I don't think Dubya will
fair as well but years from now history will decide, not some
lame Subtard on Fark and his ilk of Bush Derangement Syndrome sufferers.

God Bless you George W. Bush (new window) for doing what was right and necessary
and flying in the face of 'pop culture opinion' (new window).

Enjoy your retirement with your family and loved ones and know that
some people don't jump on bandwagons (new window) in order to be simply chic and trendy.

That's because those in the opinion poll weren't alive during the Jimmy Carter era.

Meatzilla: [Blah blah blah]

I congratulate you for your intestinal fortitude. I know that I for one would choke to death on such a huge pile of shiat.

+1

hubiestubert: CtrlAltDelete: All I have to say is this: it could have been worse.

We're at war with two countries, a good section of the world just hates us, our economy is in shambles--and we've taken a bunch of our allies down the same road--and our trading partners are up schist creek as well, the Middle East has a few shooting wars of their own, Pakistan and India have got ratcheting tensions, Russia holds the energy card for Europe, and China is getting antsy as it begins to realize that holding onto US debt may not be the envious position that they thought it would be. And as a defensive measure, we've got OPEC considering leaving the dollar as their standard for trade--though, at least they're holding off on that until they see what the Euro does thanks to the banking crisis world wide. States are facing budget shortfalls early, education is falling into the crapper, we have infrastructure that's been ignored for years that is literally falling apart in states across the country, weather cycles are screwy, we're looking at odd storm seasons, a growing dead zone in the Gulf, we're watching species die off across the oceans, and the ice caps are doing odd things, and possibly watching the fresh water melt off kill off the current that fuels most of the weather cycles we've come to rely upon. Yeah, it could be crazy worse...

Well, gee, if you're just going to be all negative about it.

/Good news!
//I just saved a bundle ...

Approval ratings, elections, primaries, polls, etc... are just propaganda tools.

You live in a controlled and oppressed world, get used to it.

It's all bullshiat.

I feel a little sad. Like when the car keys were taken off the Downs Syndrome kid.

You betcha

Just want to point out - called it when he was still running for the nomination. The man simply wasn't qualified. He is not of the caliber of individual who we deserve in a national leader. He's a dogmatic, underachieving, incurious jackanapes of a man, and his cabinet was stuffed with the worst of the worst in terms of manipulative, incompetent and corrupt assholes. His administration had no regard for the constitution, the rule of law, or the tremendous responsibility of leading a nation.

Personally, I hope every one of you who were stupid enough to vote for him realizes how absolutely wrong you were, and begins to question your larger judgement.

I envision a line of crucifixes stretching out along the Potomac, granting George the martyrdom his Jesus-addled serpent-brain no doubt secretly desires.

But I doubt anything will happen to him. After all, Kissinger was responsible for two illegal wars, and the worst thing he has to endure is he can't leave the country.

Meatzilla:
God Bless you George W. Bush (new window) for doing what was right and necessary
and flying in the face of 'pop culture opinion' (new window).

Enjoy your retirement with your family and loved ones and know that
some people don't jump on bandwagons (new window) in order to be simply chic and trendy.

I'm proud to say I never jumped on his bandwagon. Not even after 9/11.

/Only Buchanan saves him from being worst ever

I'm shocked, and awed.

Bush was a terrible president you will get no argument from me, but there is plenty of blame to go around. Congress durning his term was outright atrocious, both the Republican and Democratic majority. When the Democrats took over they were supposed to hold Bush accountable for his mistakes, well just look at the great job that they did.
You can hold Bush totally responsible for the disregard of the constitution, but he didn't do it by himself. Why was nobody in power able to stop him. As a Democrat I am utterly ashamed at my party for failing me and the country as a whole.
Lastly I blame the American people (myself included) who did not do enough to stop the madness. Our government is of the people. The government turning to shiat is only a reflection of the country as a whole.
I am hoping that Obama will be able to begin to fix the mess, but i am not holding my breath.

during* not durning

TheConvincingSavant:

Just to clarify, are you typing this or is your wife?