We're STILL getting "B-b-but Clinton..." from these bozos? The man has been out of office for 8 frogdamn years! It's time to blame the guy who replaced him for some of this crap!

Saborlas: We're STILL getting "B-b-but Clinton..." from these bozos? The man has been out of office for 8 frogdamn years! It's time to blame the guy who replaced him for some of this crap!

Yes, but we can say b-b-but Bush for the next century now :)

Goler simply meant that Bush inherited the budget surplus during his first term, from Clinton, but that he inherited 9/11 during his second term, from himself and his own first term.

You libs are really stretching to try to bash Fox News.

tallguywithglasseson: Goler simply meant that Bush inherited the budget surplus during his first term, from Clinton, but that he inherited 9/11 during his second term, from himself and his own first term.

You libs are really stretching to try to bash Fox News.


*golf clap*

Let's suppose for a moment that we accept the mind-boggling lie that Bush inherited 9/11 from Clinton.

Bush is firmly against any inheritance taxes, therefore Bush must still accept 100% of the blame.

I blame Christians for not converting enough Muslims to stop the attacks. If they don't double down their efforts we will never stop terrorism!

If you ignore all the bad stuff that happened, the last 8 years were pretty good.

sloppy shoes: I blame Christians for not converting enough Muslims to stop the attacks. If they don't double down their efforts we will never stop terrorism!

DANGER: literal-minded Xtian fundamentalists cannot sense sarcasm and may take your comment seriously.

tallguywithglasseson: Goler simply meant that Bush inherited the budget surplus during his first term, from Clinton, but that he inherited 9/11 during his second term, from himself and his own first term.

You libs are really stretching to try to bash Fox News.

Sir, your mental gymnastics are impressive. I give it a 6.8. Unfortunately, the Bulgarian judge may cancel out my positive vote...

Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

That's not the point. The point is Bush is actually saying we were safe on his watch...except for that whole 9/11 thing. It's pathetic.

Procedural Texture: Let's suppose for a moment that we accept the mind-boggling lie that Bush inherited 9/11 from Clinton.

Bush is firmly against any inheritance taxes, therefore Bush must still accept 100% of the blame.

Well, he did get the Clarke's report, and ignored it for 9 months or so. If Clinton had been successful in killing Ossama like he'd tried to, then Bush would certainly have not had that hanging over his head...

This is what bothers me about Bush. And always has bothered me about him: his lack of any sense of responsibility. He talks a good game, but in the end, he and his like to blame.

Blame and responsibility aren't the same thing. Responsibility you have to accept. You have to own up to your own culpability. And if he had an iota of integrity, he would have accepted his own laxity and preoccupation with Iraq and tax cuts, as opposed to the threats that were clearly outlined and handed to him on a silver platter. That he ignored for nearly a year.

I hope that the intelligence community gets a better deal with the incoming Administration, instead of the adversarial role that the White House has had with its own advisors and agents. For their sakes and ours.

DamnYankees: If you ignore all the bad stuff that happened, the last 8 years were pretty good spent in a coma.

Procedural Texture: sloppy shoes: I blame Christians for not converting enough Muslims to stop the attacks. If they don't double down their efforts we will never stop terrorism!

DANGER: literal-minded Xtian fundamentalists cannot sense sarcasm and may take your comment seriously.

I recommend this website if they need help:

How To Convert To Christianity (new window)

We've gone from "The Buck Stops Here," to the "Even though I've been President for 234 days, it's still the other guy's fault."

sloppy shoes: How To Convert To Christianity (new window)

Wow. Great link. Hilarious and deeply saddening at the same time.

I blame the Gregorian calendar for 9/11. If there were no date of 9/11 -then it wouldn't be there.

It can't be Bush's fault it just can't be (new window).

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

Now that's some dodging of blame there.

I...um...what?

I'm pretty sure 9/11 was the fault of sodomites and atheists.

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

So we should blame Saint Reagan then? Many conservatives say he single-handedly ended the Cold War by instigating that arms race. He made us become short sighted, it's obviously his fault...

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

I never agree with you, but here I must. Not that Bush is blameless, just that there is plenty o' blame to go around.

However, listening to Bush and Co. repeatedly tell me how safe they kept me when I remember watching the towers on TV feeling like death is absolutely amazing. You'd figure he'd just not mention it, you know?

Jonny Chimpo: CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

So we should blame Saint Reagan then? Many conservatives say he single-handedly ended the Cold War by instigating that arms race. He made us become short sighted, it's obviously his fault...

You can blame St. Reagan for many of our curent economic problems, but you also must blam everybody who bought into the bullshiat.

i.e. voters.

"What? You mean we can have all this and not worry about paying for it!!? I'M IN!!"

You cant blame Bill Bush OR George Clinton for the attacks because they were bound to happen as long as ANY democrat was in the white house or recently had been. Instead of blaming Clinton maybe put the blame squarely where it belongs, on all democrats. The terrorists had been in a funk and when America was weak from liberal policy they knew it was the time to strike. They had to make a statement, they couldnt access hollywood with there planes, so instead they accessed the pentagon and twin towers. They probably got the idea from Obama's mentor Bill Airs, who bombed Parliament in the 1990s, killing millions.

PascalsGhost: Jonny Chimpo: CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

So we should blame Saint Reagan then? Many conservatives say he single-handedly ended the Cold War by instigating that arms race. He made us become short sighted, it's obviously his fault...

You can blame St. Reagan for many of our curent economic problems, but you also must blam everybody who bought into the bullshiat.

i.e. voters.

"What? You mean we can have all this and not worry about paying for it!!? I'M IN!!"

Then I am blameless in this matter!!!

StopArrestingMe: You cant blame Bill Bush OR George Clinton for the attacks because they were bound to happen as long as ANY democrat was in the white house or recently had been. Instead of blaming Clinton maybe put the blame squarely where it belongs, on all democrats. The terrorists had been in a funk and when America was weak from liberal policy they knew it was the time to strike. They had to make a statement, they couldnt access hollywood with there planes, so instead they accessed the pentagon and twin towers. They probably got the idea from Obama's mentor Bill Airs, who bombed Parliament in the 1990s, killing millions.

WAYYY too strong...

StopArrestingMe: You cant blame Bill Bush OR George Clinton for the attacks because they were bound to happen as long as ANY democrat was in the white house or recently had been. Instead of blaming Clinton maybe put the blame squarely where it belongs, on all democrats. The terrorists had been in a funk and when America was weak from liberal policy they knew it was the time to strike. They had to make a statement, they couldnt access hollywood with there planes, so instead they accessed the pentagon and twin towers. They probably got the idea from Obama's mentor Bill Airs, who bombed Parliament in the 1990s, killing millions.

Too obvious.

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

I would add naive disbelief that it could happen to that list. The 9/11 Commission touched on that.

What is directly attributable to Bush is the politicization and other manipulations of the tragedy.

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

Which is why the resident expert on Al Qaeda quit the FBI because the Bush administration didn't give a shiat (new window) and was ironically killed working as security guard at the World Trade Center on 9/11.

I know you enjoy trolling, but Americans have died because Bush was a farking retard. And I'm sick and tired of that asshole killing people -- while his apologists lie about history and say insipid shiat -- knowing full well it's just a big joke to them anyway.

When are Americans going to stand up against people like you that think America is a joke?

hubiestubert: If Clinton had been successful in killing Ossama like he'd tried to, then Bush would certainly have not had that hanging over his head...

That's a good point.

I mean, for example, if Democrats had simply filibustered every single one of his appointments to the DOJ, he never would have been able to completely mutilate any real sense of "justice" in that agency.

And if Democrats had simply invented an anti-hurricane machine, then we wouldn't have had such a tragedy with Katrina.

And if Democrats had been successful in impeaching him before he invaded Iraq, we'd never have been in that pickle, either.


This really is pretty much all the Democrats fault.

And the right-wing's "War on Reality" continues.

CanisNoir: Bah - anyone who tries to blame 9/11 on any single administration or person is just being an ijit. It was a systemic failure brought on by hubris and a short sightedness after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

It's a simple as that.

Bush found out that Bin Laden blew up the USS Cole. Not Clinton. And yet he still refused to pursue the most biggest terrorist lead ever. It's as simple as that. Bush is 100% to blame for 9-11.

I blame Norway. Damn you Vikings.

And that hubris and shortsightedness had nothing to do with Cheney, and Wolfowitz, right?

Oh wait... (pops)

StopArrestingMe: You cant blame Bill Bush OR George Clinton for the attacks



/agrees

hubiestubert: I hope that the intelligence community gets a better deal with the incoming Administration, instead of the adversarial role that the White House has had with its own advisors and agents. For their sakes and ours.

Of course, given how the neocon/theocrat cabal treated other federal agencies, I wonder how many competent people are left. One of the long term bags of shiat the administration is leaving behind is the incompetent partisans saturating the bureaucracy that will be difficult to fire because of the laws that were ignored during their hiring. While I didn't want Bush in 2000 I thought the damage he could do would be limited by institutional inertia, but I never imagined the conspiracy to destroy the governmental apparatus that is the modern republican leadership.

StopArrestingMe: You cant blame Bill Bush OR George Clinton for the attacks

The only thing George Clinton is responsible for is bringing the funk!

StopArrestingMe: You cant blame Bill Bush OR George Clinton for the attacks because they were bound to happen as long as ANY democrat was in the white house or recently had been. Instead of blaming Clinton maybe put the blame squarely where it belongs, on all democrats. The terrorists had been in a funk and when America was weak from liberal policy they knew it was the time to strike. They had to make a statement, they couldnt access hollywood with there planes, so instead they accessed the pentagon and twin towers. They probably got the idea from Obama's mentor Bill Airs, who bombed Parliament in the 1990s, killing millions.

You have to be more subtle than that if you want to catch some fish. But would you agree that it was Bush who tore the roof off the sucka?

Procedural Texture: Let's suppose for a moment that we accept the mind-boggling lie that Bush inherited 9/11 from Clinton.

Bush is firmly against any inheritance taxes, therefore Bush must still accept 100% of the blame.

I read a book where these pigs would change the writing on the barn.

On the other hand, it's nice to know that Republicans will blame Bush for any disasters that strike the US for the next eight or nine months, at least.

Poor George W. Bush. He's a victim of the Democratic party. His motto was "The buck stops with Clinton". And now that he's (almost) gone it will change to "Everything is Obama's fault".

What a farktard.

Political Parties and Voters have NO right to judge nations (Question 36). Read More (new window) for all your questions answered.

When your predecessor hands you a file titled "terrorists attack by al qaeda emminent" and nothing is done about it at all,

and instead you focused all funds towards missle defense, damaging relations with our neighbors in addition to wasting time, energy, money, and eventually lives

- THEN maybe, i dunno, it might've been a it of Bush's fault.

I dunno, it's just my personal opinion, man.

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A. Three, but they're really one.

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A. Three, but they're really one.

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My favorite Christian joke:

Q: Why won't Southern Baptists have sex standing up?
A: Because it might lead to dancing.

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The psychotic, self-destructive reaction to 9-11, however, was all Dubya.

Why can't an airliner crash into their building?

Interesting they (the terrorists) waited until Dubya took office.