FTFA:
His comments, in a CBS interview last night, represent a significant watering down of the "dead or alive" policy pursued by President Bush since the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 for several months, then, while slumped over the podium, he noticed something shiny and scampered off.

FTFY.

So he's not a savior but but a lying sack of shiat politician like all the rest? The libtards will be so disappointed.

/here comes the -1 votes to make it not true

Cog: The libtards will be so disappointed.

I'm just disappointed you said "libtards".

Cog: lying sack of shiat

Just like you, eh, Cog?

Farking right-wing turd.

Regardless of what Obama does, timesonline already lost all credibility in my book.

Cog: So he's not a savior but but a lying sack of shiat politician like all the rest?

That's why we have an "OBVIOUS" tag. R or D, it doesn't matter. Same lies, same corruption, all that changes is the name on the door.

We're not waiting for inauguration to finalize an impeachment bill, are we? Someone said we didn't even have to wait, seeing as how the incoming is Democratic.

Change ... yes we can.

So that just means Obama officially knows Osama is dead, right? along with the secrets of the Mars face, the Taos hum, and the 11 herbs and spices.

Procedural Texture: FTFA:
His comments, in a CBS interview last night, represent a significant watering down of the "dead or alive" policy pursued by President Bush since the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 for several months, then, while slumped over the podium, he noticed something shiny and scampered off.

FTFY.

If you really think Bush hasn't continued to make Osama a priority, or that Obama won't either, I have some bridges to sell you.

This is typical for Obama or most politicians. Promises more than he can deliver before election, and then promises far less than he can deliver until the next election cycle (so as to keep expectations low).

As far as I can tell, Obama is Bush's third term, and since Bush did a pretty good job of preventing another 9/11 and making progress in the middle east, I'm happy about it. Obama is showing serious smarts here.

/yeah, I know I have to hate one of them (bush or Obama), but I don't. They both suck in similar ways too, though.

CHANGE - Yes do you have some?

"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

How would you know he's not communicating with his operatives? If you don't know where he is, you don't know who he's talking to.

Arcanum:
....
As far as I can tell, Obama is Bush's third term, and since Bush did a pretty good job of preventing another 9/11 and making progress in the middle east, I'm happy about it. Obama is showing serious smarts here.
...

I have this magic rock that keeps tigers away.

See any tigers?

It's working!

Can anyone tell me what "technically alive" means? My impression, after reading the article, is that there is a strong belief that bin Laden is dead but no concrete proof.

Duh. Obama finally got the brief showing that Bin Laden is actually a deep cover CTU operative aka Tony Almeda with a beard.

Your tears, they nourish me.

/Obama == Bush III

can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America.

Obama made a mistake with the original threat. Keeping him on the run is more than enough. Even Bush figured that out.

Most important: Terrorism is a media policy -- attention is the oxygen terrorists live on.

Here'S was Obama should do:

1) Emphasize how many Muslims AQ kills.
2) Support moderate Muslims who oppose AQ
3) Point out the many fatwas against terrorism
4) Avoid doing stupid things like what Israel is doing in Gaza.
5) Continue the covert targeting of specific radicals like Osama
6) Support nation building in failed states like Afghanistan and Somalia.

Ha! An actual policy recommendation! Now carry on whining.

You people are obtuse. Did it ever occur to any of you that there is more going on here than we know about? Obama was all "end the war in Iraq, win the war in the 'stan" after the election, however when he had obviously been briefed on classified information He dials the rhetoric back. I don't know whats going on, or why, but I'd bet dollars to donuts there is a reason we cant get out of Iraq as quick as we would like and that there is a solid reason why we arent going gung ho in afganistan

/nope, no sources
//just conmmon sense
///remember when republicans said that it was 'asinine' that the outrageous gas prices were because of 'speculators'?

FredaDeStilleto: Can anyone tell me what "technically alive" means? My impression, after reading the article, is that there is a strong belief that bin Laden is dead but no concrete proof.

When was the last time we have seen this guy with anything that shows he is alive in recent times? How about a video of him watching the American Idol auditions? Until I see something like that, he is room temperature. Audio tapes don't cut it. With video technology today, making a video is not that hard, just look at YouTube.

Arcanum: As far as I can tell, Obama is Bush's third term, and since Bush did a pretty good job of preventing another 9/11 and making progress in the middle east, I'm happy about it. Obama is showing serious smarts here.

/yeah, I know I have to hate one of them (bush or Obama), but I don't. They both suck in similar ways too, though.

Wow. What kind of speed does a DSL line into an isolated
survival bunker give you? Can't be very big that far from any
civilization....

Cog: So he's not a savior but but a lying sack of shiat politician like all the rest? The libtards will be so disappointed.

/here comes the -1 votes to make it not true

Whiner
soy_bomb: Your tears, they nourish me.

/Obama == Bush III

Whiner
JJR: CHANGE - Yes do you have some?

Whiner
YoggiSothoth: Change ... yes we can.

Whiner

I guess Phil Gramm was right. None of you people have a clue as to how to deal with the issue. All of you were gung-ho about the stupid Iraq war.

"So sue me."

Arcanum: If you really think Bush hasn't continued to make Osama a priority, or that Obama won't either, I have some bridges to sell you.

I think we can pretty well pinpoint the moment when GW stopped making Bin Laden a priority...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o&feature=related

Day_Old_Dutchie

Ah, interesting logic.

9/11 happens. Bush introduces new security measures.

Another attack happens: BUshiatLER has failed! Impeach him! His reforms did nothing!

No Attack: There is no proof Bush's new security measures have worked!

/Bin-Laden has been dead for years I reckon.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: So that just means Obama officially knows Osama is dead, right? along with the secrets of the Mars face, the Taos hum, and the 11 herbs and spices.

Don't kid yourself. Even the CIA/FBI/NSA can't identify all eleven. That shiat's alien.

Who repeatedly said he had knowledge of how to get bin laden?

YakBoy42: Arcanum: If you really think Bush hasn't continued to make Osama a priority, or that Obama won't either, I have some bridges to sell you.

I think we can pretty well pinpoint the moment when GW stopped making Bin Laden a priority...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o&feature=related

Yeah, because Bin Laden is the focal point of all Islamic terrorism. It's not like it's a global struggle against many different entities.

TigerStar888: The TimesOnline is the Fox News of the UK. Both are owned by Rupert Murdoch.

SO I should ignore this video of Obama saying the exact same thing to Katie Couric?

Barack Obama: it is no longer essential to kill Osama bin Laden

Dunno why I bother, but did anyone else notice that the "No longer" part is a lie?

TimesOnline is littered with D student journalists.

"It's time for change" Now who do I hire... O YEAH The Clintons, they are a good change, hmmmmmmmmmmmm HEll might as well hire their entire staff too. All you who voted for "Change" got RIPPPPED OFFF and LIED TO. suck it up and admit it!

So the gist of all this from you normally liberal Farkers is Bush was right all along about Bin Laden but we're only willing to admit that now that Obama is saying it. Thanks for the heads up!

During the campaign, Obama talked a lot about things his liberal base wanted to hear. He was going to get us out of Iraq within 60 days, he was going to close Gitmo immediately, he was going refocus on Afghanistan and get Bin Laden. Then he started getting the same security briefings the President gets and his positions started to change. It's one thing to want a perfect world, it's quite another to have to deal with reality.

Obama appears to realize that several of his promises were ill-advised. At least he has the intelligence to modify them. It will be interesting to see how long the more rabid leftists among his followers will continue to support him. It will also be interesting to see how the media covers for him. Since his changes appear to be in the direction of common sense, I'll support those changes.

J3: So the gist of all this from you normally liberal Farkers is Bush was right all along about Bin Laden but we're only willing to admit that now that Obama is saying it. Thanks for the heads up!

You dont know how to read, do you?

tchamber: Cog: lying sack of shiat

Just like you, eh, Cog?

Farking right-wing turd.

And that right there sums up the decline in political discourse better than anything I could ever say.

ilambiquated: 6) Support nation building in failed states like Afghanistan and Somalia.

FTFY

I'm going to take these reported changes in Obama's positions with a huge grain of salt.

Even if it's no longer essential, can't we just do it for fun?

I can't decide what's funnier. The Conservatards who have to magnify every error or mistake that Obama makes. Or the Libtards who refuse to admit that Obama can even make any errors or mistakes.

What a bizarre world... at what point along the way did "Bin Laden must DIE" become a liberal position?

He'll still be better than Bush.

Sarcastic_Twit: Even if it's no longer essential, can't we just do it for fun?


Send this guy. Before he was taken out of Kandahar he was going to "carry a pistol so that I can take out Bin Laden myself".

/ah, the heady, crazy days of 2002

TehAssMan: TimesOnline is littered with D student journalists.

Out of wild curiosity, where did you find that statistic? Or have you just decided that any news outlet that doesn't confirm your predjudices is automatically bogus?

Lord Brixton: Or have you just decided that any news outlet that doesn't confirm your predjudices is automatically bogus?

See the link in my previous post.

let it go

Edsel: What a bizarre world... at what point along the way did "Bin Laden must DIE" become a liberal position?

2001? Though I've always pushed for him to be taken alive for a very public trial.

This article essentially needs more aggressive opinion and watered down characterization.

Somebody in the State Department know where Bin Laden is.

This person(s) is a staunch Democrat who has kept the info on the QT to make Bush look bad.

This person will "suddenly find" Bin Laden within a few months of Obama's swearing in.

The Press with laugh and say that Bush couldn't find Bin Laden in 8 years, but Obama did it in just a few months. The Press never asks Obama a difficult question again...as if they ever have.

Obama hits 93% in the popularity polls.

The person at the State Department gets a raise and a promotion.