Reality has a repeatable expression of "Bush Administration" fails syndrome.

When I heard this Pentagon fiction yesterday I was skeptical too.

I would like to see more details to see if the Pentagon is as full of B.S. as I tend to presume they are.

Well damn. Color me totally not surprised that the Pentagon is lying about something. Though there is hope. The Pentagon as an institution may be collectively a den of lying asshats, there are still individual officers who've retained their honor and told it like it is. Like this Military judge (new window), or this former chief prosecutor at Guantanamo who says the "evidence" they have against the detainees is basically worthless (new window) (and gets his honor smeared by bis former CO for his trouble)

Its not "torture" its "freedom pain".

Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

I haven't felt this safe since 9/10/01.

Mordant: I haven't felt this safe since 9/10/01.

Ha ha ha!

B-b-b-but Gitmo isn't as bad as the Soviet gulags 1!!1 It's really clean!!

Ladies and Gentlemen of Fark,

The Pentagon is pleased to announce that aggressive interrogation consisting of [CLASSIFIED] has prevented [CLASSIFIED] planned acts of terrorism, to include [CLASSIFIED], [CLASSIFIED], and the de-flouridation of the water supply of [CLASSIFIED].

The Pentagon will publish redacted details of these operations at the conclusion of the War on Terror or when pigs fly, whichever comes first.

Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

*coughANTHRAXhack*

/would you like to buy my tiger-repelling rock?
//how do I know it repels tigers? do you see any tigers around here?

Mordant: I haven't felt this safe since 9/10/01.

And you can think Bill Clinton for that, buddy!

bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Yea, lets just go ahead and ignore those anthrax mailings, sniper shootings, and abortion clinic bombings.

In fact, if you ignore all the terrorist attacks in the world since 9/11, there haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11. What a success this war on terror has been!

hungryhungryhorus: bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Yea, lets just go ahead and ignore those anthrax mailings, sniper shootings, and abortion clinic bombings.

In fact, if you ignore all the terrorist attacks in the world since 9/11, there haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11. What a success this war on terror has been!

You might want to adjust your sarcasm detector.

being being tortured? is that some kind of torture based solely on the fact of you being being a living being? or is it like, some kind of double torture?

"yo man, we're not just being tortured, we're being BEING tortured now! let's give them all the intel on al-qaeda so we can go from being being tortured, to just being tortured."

And does this surprise anyone at all?

jebusfreak: being being tortured? is that some kind of torture based solely on the fact of you being being a living being? or is it like, some kind of double torture?

"yo man, we're not just being tortured, we're being BEING tortured now! let's give them all the intel on al-qaeda so we can go from being being tortured, to just being tortured."

They kinda developed a little speech impediment.

bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Its all thanks to these tiger-warding rocks the Bush administration handed out to the REAL American public.

All that torture and Osama Bin Laden is still at large.
Heckuva job, Bush.
Heckuva job, Bush supporters.

When it comes to fighting terrorism, nobody is in the same league as Bush.


read the last three words backwards, without the middle one, if you didn't get it the first time.

Yeah, well ††-SNARKY RESPONSE REDACTED-††.

No obvious tag? I thought it was established a while ago that the detainees being released weren't terrorists in the first place.

The way that I see it, this is just another shinning example of how GITMO works. None of the people who we detained and worked over returned to strike vengeance against or boys and girls abroad.

That's 61 people who won't even think about lifting a finger against us, and not a single shot was fired.

In the specrum of treating these individuals as gentlemen (which would expose our weaknesses) or placing a 7.62 round inside where Allah speaks to them, we made the right desicion and you were wrong.

The guy at the end of the thread: The way that I see it, this is just another shinning example of how GITMO works. None of the people who we detained and worked over returned to strike vengeance against or boys and girls abroad.

That's 61 people who won't even think about lifting a finger against us, and not a single shot was fired.

In the specrum of treating these individuals as gentlemen (which would expose our weaknesses) or placing a 7.62 round inside where Allah speaks to them, we made the right desicion and you were wrong. Not at all, but with MORE VIOLENCE!

The guy at the end of the thread: In the specrum of treating these individuals as gentlemen (which would expose our weaknesses) or placing a 7.62 round inside where Allah speaks to them, we made the right desicion and you were wrong.

Uh we did neither dipshiat.

Sleeping Monkey: Its not "torture" its "freedom pain".

New monitor. You owe me one. You can even make it a "Freedom" monitor. Complete with a waving American flag screensaver.

hungryhungryhorus: bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Yea, lets just go ahead and ignore those anthrax mailings, sniper shootings, and abortion clinic bombings.

In fact, if you ignore all the terrorist attacks in the world since 9/11, there haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11. What a success this war on terror has been!


Not to dive headfirst into the stupid that is to follow, but all three of your examples has nothing to do with Al Qida or other terrorist organizations that we are fighting right now. Snipers were lone crazies(10 deaths) , anthrax was from a (very white) microbiologist from Ohio (5 deaths), and the six abortion clinic attacks since 9/11 have resulted in 0 deaths.


Nowhere even close to a large-scale terrorist attack.

rjw25: hungryhungryhorus: bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Yea, lets just go ahead and ignore those anthrax mailings, sniper shootings, and abortion clinic bombings.

In fact, if you ignore all the terrorist attacks in the world since 9/11, there haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11. What a success this war on terror has been!


Not to dive headfirst into the stupid that is to follow, but all three of your examples has nothing to do with Al Qida or other terrorist organizations that we are fighting right now. Snipers were lone crazies(10 deaths) , anthrax was from a (very white) microbiologist from Ohio (5 deaths), and the six abortion clinic attacks since 9/11 have resulted in 0 deaths.


Nowhere even close to a large-scale terrorist attack.


EDIT:

Not saying homeland security works or anything (god forbid I imply Bush did something right!) but logically, we have brought the fight away from American soil. Why travel all the way to America when you can suicide bomb Americans in the comfort of your own neighborhood?

rjw25:
Not to dive headfirst into the stupid that is to follow, but all three of your examples has nothing to do with Al Qida or other terrorist organizations that we are fighting right now. Snipers were lone crazies(10 deaths) , anthrax was from a (very white) microbiologist from Ohio (5 deaths), and the six abortion clinic attacks since 9/11 have resulted in 0 deaths.


Nowhere even close to a large-scale terrorist attack.

Yeah, but it's still terrorism.

PlatinumDragon: *coughANTHRAXhack*



No. The guy who mailed the anthrax was a white dude. Who was a former US Government scientist. Who also tried to blame his attacks on al Queda. Then killed himself (albiet, mysteriously) when he was about to be investigate. So the investigation was droped.



See. He even wrote "Praise Allah" and asked to see if you were "Afraid". Islamic Terror. Even though he wasn't Islamic... and he used to work for our Government.

And he never did explained WHY he would try to ratchet up support against al Queda? I mean using chemical weapons against famous people to get people afraid of al Queda is a pretty random thing to do... even for a crazy guy like we are supposed to believe he was.

So it wasn't really terrorism in an "al Queda" sense. It was more like someone from your government killing people and trying to project blame on an eternal threat. Like 9/11.

rjw25: Not to dive headfirst into the stupid that is to follow, but all three of your examples has nothing to do with Al Qida or other terrorist organizations that we are fighting right now. Snipers were lone crazies(10 deaths) , anthrax was from a (very white) microbiologist from Ohio (5 deaths), and the six abortion clinic attacks since 9/11 have resulted in 0 deaths.

At least one of the snipers was given the death sentence because his crimes amounted to an act of terrorism.

rjw25: hungryhungryhorus: bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Yea, lets just go ahead and ignore those anthrax mailings, sniper shootings, and abortion clinic bombings.

In fact, if you ignore all the terrorist attacks in the world since 9/11, there haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11. What a success this war on terror has been!


Not to dive headfirst into the stupid that is to follow, but all three of your examples has nothing to do with Al Qida or other terrorist organizations that we are fighting right now. Snipers were lone crazies(10 deaths) , anthrax was from a (very white) microbiologist from Ohio (5 deaths), and the six abortion clinic attacks since 9/11 have resulted in 0 deaths.


Nowhere even close to a large-scale terrorist attack.

White = not terrorist. Got it. Ok guys, you can release Timothy McVeigh now. He's fine, doesn't look muslimy at all.

Also, how is the number of deaths relevant on whether or not blowing up a building is terrorism? Geeze I had to listen to this Weathermen crap for the last how many months and they killed how many people? They've got dictionaries online if you need help remembering what that word meant before Fox got to it.

rjw25: Nowhere even close to a large-scale terrorist attack.

Of which there have been a grand total of two (on US soil) by my count, and a third attempted one. We're as safe as we've ever been at any time.

rjw25: Not saying homeland security works or anything (god forbid I imply Bush did something right!) but logically, we have brought the fight away from American soil. Why travel all the way to America when you can suicide bomb Americans in the comfort of your own neighborhood?

Yep, and that way the kids over there will be better educated on how to properly blow up America after their parents are dead and all the troops finally go home.

ProdigalSigh: Of which there have been a grand total of two (on US soil) by my count, and a third attempted one. We're as safe as we've ever been at any time.

Lightning is a bigger threat ffs.

Falcc: White = not terrorist. Got it. Ok guys, you can release Timothy McVeigh now. He's fine, doesn't look muslimy at all.

ter⋅ror⋅ist
/ˈtɛrərɪst/
-noun
1. a non-white person, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2. an arab or muslim person who terrorizes or frightens others.
3. (formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4. an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.
-adjective
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of terrorism or terrorists: terrorist tactics.

Correct!

Falcc: Ok guys, you can release Timothy McVeigh now. He's fine, doesn't look muslimy at all.

:grumbles:
:grabs shovel:

IXI Jim IXI: Falcc: Ok guys, you can release Timothy McVeigh now. He's fine, doesn't look muslimy at all.

:grumbles:
:grabs shovel:

While you're down there pry the guns from his cold dead hands. It will amuse me.

Hatfil was framed

There aren't any terrorists.

Oh and that "as safe as we've ever been" bit has absolutely no relation to the CIA, NSA, FBI, DHS, Pentagon, NASA, Elephants, my big toe, Janet Jackson's nipples, or Iraq.

I'm not saying there aren't crazies out there who want to kill any given US citizen, nor that there aren't some organizations with the same goal, I'm saying rather that most people are rational enough to realize killing innocent civilians alienates the world from your cause. Swing the bat enough and you'll eventually hit a home run, this does not mean that your batting average is respectable or that you are on steroids.

Sadly, the only people who think that terrorism works are the same that think torture works.

I wonder if America has created 10x more terrorists than they killed, or 100x. That's the only thing I wonder.

You people are farked.

Sleeping Monkey: Its not "torture" its "freedom pain".

For that, you win the Congressional Medal of Awesome.

tolallorti: And does this surprise anyone at all?

Yeah no yeah, but no.

Americans are attacked by terrorists nearly every day in Iraq and Afghanistan so talking about attacks in the homeland is meaningless. It's like saying that you're a vegetarian because you don't eat meat when you're at home.

Add it to the list.

/send Bush, Cheney, Addington, Rumsfeld, Feith, Wolfowitz, Gonzales, Card, Fielding and Ashcroft to The Hague.

Mentat: Mordant: I haven't felt this safe since 9/10/01.

And you can think Bill Clinton for that, buddy!

Bill was prez on 9/10/01? I did not know that!

I assumed "returned to terrorism" meant some of them bought watches.

oldebayer: When it comes to fighting terrorism, nobody is in the same league as Bush.


read the last three words backwards, without the middle one, if you didn't get it the first time.

hsubeugael

Phil Moskowitz: I wonder if America has created 10x more terrorists than they killed, or 100x. That's the only thing I wonder.

You people are farked.

We went and hired the Magic Man. So we're cool.

/No, we're kinda farked. Even Obama can't unfark it all.

rjw25: hungryhungryhorus: bulldg4life: Hey, there hasn't been a terrorist attack in America since the biggest terrorist attack in history. That makes it all worth it.

Yea, lets just go ahead and ignore those anthrax mailings, sniper shootings, and abortion clinic bombings.

In fact, if you ignore all the terrorist attacks in the world since 9/11, there haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11. What a success this war on terror has been!


Not to dive headfirst into the stupid that is to follow, but all three of your examples has nothing to do with Al Qida or other terrorist organizations that we are fighting right now. Snipers were lone crazies(10 deaths) , anthrax was from a (very white) microbiologist from Ohio (5 deaths), and the six abortion clinic attacks since 9/11 have resulted in 0 deaths.


Nowhere even close to a large-scale terrorist attack.

so small-scale terrorist attacks don't count?