Trust Faux News to come up with irrelevant shiat like that.

And Gore never said that.

Hubert Sumlin: And Gore never said that.

He never said those exact words but he did try to take credit for it.

well that's it. Time to move back into caves people. We have to save the planet.

I want to go fap but I'm concerned about my carbon footprint.

Screw it.

GaryPDX: Hubert Sumlin: And Gore never said that.

He never said those exact words but he did try to take credit for it.

A lie. (new window)

I'm convinced that this, and all the other irrational responses that arise from certain corners whenever Al Gore's name is mentioned, are a direct result of the abject failure of the last 8 years. Had Bush been a success Gore, and the contested election of 2000, would be an historical footnote.

However, he has now been elevated to the Great What-Might-Have-Been. We're now at a point where the country has collectively decided to treat Gore as basically an ex-prez. This infuriates "conservatives" to no end, and so they continually trot out the old internet meme, and whatever else they can find to deflect attention away from that continuing train of fail that they brought into being.

Sad, really.

inebriated brain: well that's it. Time to move back into caves people. We have to save the planet.

You say that in jest but if we modified our building codes to incorporate geothermal dynamics (earthen homes), we'd cut HUGE amounts of carbon. It's very energy wasteful building above ground with sticks and paper. And funny, nobody talks about that, just cars and better gas mileage. It's a farce and a train wreck headed our way.

/killjoy

GaryPDX: You say that in jest but if we modified our building codes to incorporate geothermal dynamics (earthen homes), we'd cut HUGE amounts of carbon. It's very energy wasteful building above ground with sticks and paper. And funny, nobody talks about that, just cars and better gas mileage. It's a farce and a train wreck headed our way.

Oh please.

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2. Boiling a kettle generates about 15g."

So, less than half is "about the same amount?" Whenever I see stretching like that, my bullshiat detector goes crazy and I'm inclined to disregard the rest.

People still say "Faux News?" I thought there'd be a not-old joke by now to use when someone is feeling clever.

I'm running 6 PCs right now, just to spite Al Gore and his sheepish followers.

tchamber: Trust Faux News to come up with irrelevant shiat like that.

Wow, hate much?

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece (pops)

Here. Same article, but it's from the UK so now it must be true.

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research."

If that is the case, I'm creating a monstrous carbon foot print that I'll be happy to use to shove up Gore's arse.

Tea's ready! Yum!

Sorry folks...you're behind the ever changing times...it's no longer Global Warming.......it's Global Cooling

Consensus Baby!

Wait...what??



"Sherman....set the Wayback Machine to 1975"

"Yes Mr. Peabody!"


/and so it goes....

/CNN
//All fear, all the time

Environmentalism is short-sighted & stupid.

The planet has been here for billions of years, and humans have only been here for about a million. Compared to a 24 hour day, humans have only been around for about :30 seconds. And we probably have less than :30 seconds left.

After which time, the evidence of our presence will quickly erode away and the earth will go back to being ruled by giant insects and lizards.

herrhitmann: tchamber: Trust Faux News to come up with irrelevant shiat like that.

Wow, hate much?

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5489134.ece (pops)

Here. Same article, but it's from the UK so now it must be true.

Eh, the FoxHate^TM just acts like a self-attached ignore filter.

Easiest to simply ignore all the assholes. No 'filter' necessary but your own brain.

thereadlines: Oh please.

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2. Boiling a kettle generates about 15g."

You might wanna reread that...

thereadlines: So, less than half is "about the same amount?"

Sorry, but you fail at math. The solution is actually in what you're quoting:
"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2. Boiling a kettle generates about 15g."

So 2 * 7g = 14g ~ 15g.

thereadlines: Oh please.

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2. Boiling a kettle generates about 15g."

So, less than half is "about the same amount?" Whenever I see stretching like that, my bullshiat detector goes crazy and I'm inclined to disregard the rest.

Yes, each search generates about 7g. If you do 2 searches, that's about 14g, which is close to 15g.

/reading comprehension

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. -- Al Gore, March 9, 1999, CNN 'Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer'

tchamber: Trust Faux News to come up with irrelevant shiat like that.

No, try "Click here for more on this story from the London Times."
Asswipe.

thereadlines

So, less than half is "about the same amount?" Whenever I see stretching like that, my bullshiat detector goes crazy and I'm inclined to disregard the rest.

I think you may have misread the subheader:

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea..."

Badgers: I'm running 6 PCs right now, just to spite Al Gore and his sheepish followers.

So is Al Gore. I remember reading a while back that his home was using just as much electricity as a couple normal homes. Oh...and all the traveling on private jets. Way to go Gore!

I've done half a dozen searches on "carbon credits" in the last 10 minutes. I figure if I can't burn tires in my backyard I'll Google until the icecaps melt.

"Global warming is real! We're ruining the planet"
"No, it's a myth! It's just another phase in the 3 billion year history of the planet!"
"What about all the scientists?"
"It's a political tool used to regulate big business!"
"What about the studies? Look at my web links!"
"What about the other studies? Look at MY web links!"
"Why not err on the side of saving the planet?"
"Why waste money in these economic times?"
"Fark you, you're an idiot!"
"Fark you too!"

/the end and/or next 500 comments in this post

fark = carbon bigfoot

in•vent |inˈvent|
verb [ trans. ]
create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of : he invented an improved form of the steam engine.
• make up (an idea, name, story, etc.), esp. so as to deceive : Global Warming

This is only a concern if boiling water for tea is a concern. Which it isn't.

I got about as far as the first rollover-and-pop-up advertisement, then stopped reading.

ActionJoe: Badgers: I'm running 6 PCs right now, just to spite Al Gore and his sheepish followers.

So is Al Gore. I remember reading a while back that his home was using just as much electricity as a couple normal homes. Oh...and all the traveling on private jets. Way to go Gore!

I think the Prophet Gore uses more electricity in a month than I use in a year yet I'm supposed to change the way I live? farking douche. And the eco doomsayers wonder why a lot of people don't take Gore seriously.

I worried about your carbon footprint, not mine...

/How many trees had to die to cover Al's desk?

and how much carbon do they sequester by giving people information that they'd normally have to travel to acquire?

Yeah, so I can't read. So what?

Claim: Vice-President Al Gore claimed that he "invented" the Internet.

Status: False.

Origins: Despite the derisive references that continue even today, Al Gore did not claim he "invented" the Internet, nor did he say anything that could reasonably be interpreted that way. The "Al Gore said he 'invented' the Internet" put-downs were misleading, out-of-context distortions of something he said during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN's "Late Edition" program on 9 March 1999. When asked to describe what distinguished him from his challenger for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Bill Bradley of New Jersey, Gore replied (in part):
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
Clearly, although Gore's phrasing might have been a bit clumsy (and perhaps self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet (in the sense of having designed or implemented it), but that he was responsible, in an economic and legislative sense, for fostering the development the technology that we now know as the Internet. To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," and the words "create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings - the former is used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into existence" while the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of someone's thinking up or implementing an idea. (To those who say the words "create" and "invent" mean exactly the same thing, we have to ask why, then, the media overwhelmingly and consistently cited Gore as having claimed he "invented" the Internet, even though he never used that word, and transcripts of what he actually said were readily available.)

If President Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, "created" the Interstate Highway System, we would not have seen dozens and dozens of
editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Ike meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with his Internet statement.

Whether Gore's statement that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet" is justified is a subject of debate. Any statement about the "creation" or "beginning" of the Internet is difficult to evaluate, because the Internet is not a homogenous entity (it's a collection of computers, networks, protocols, standards, and application programs), nor did it all spring into being at once (the components that comprise the Internet were developed in various places at different times and are continuously being modified, improved, and expanded). A spirited defense of Gore's claim by Vint Cerf (often referred to as the "father of the Internet") notes "that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it," although many of the components of today's Internet came into being well before Gore's first term in Congress began in 1977.

It is true, though, that Gore was popularizing the term "information superhighway" in the early 1990s (although he did not, as is often claimed by others, coin the phrase himself) when few people outside academia or the computer/defense industries had heard of the Internet, and he sponsored the 1988 National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic).

In May 2005, the organizers of the Webby Awards for online achievements honored Al Gore with a lifetime achievement award for three decades of contributions to the Internet. "He is indeed due some thanks and consideration for his early contributions," said Vint Cerf.

According to Vincent Cerf, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."

The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
http://www.perkel.com/politics/gore/internet.htm

Phil Moskowitz: and how much carbon do they sequester by giving people information that they'd normally have to travel to acquire?

How far do you normally have to travel to get information about Star Wars collectables and henta?

Oh please oh please let someone who doesn't understand science start talking about how Gore wasting energy somehow magically invalidates the MOUNTAINS of scientific evidence in support of global warming, thus giving us even more evidence that deniers merely use logical fallacies to try and "prove" their point....

herrhitmann: ActionJoe: Badgers: I'm running 6 PCs right now, just to spite Al Gore and his sheepish followers.

So is Al Gore. I remember reading a while back that his home was using just as much electricity as a couple normal homes. Oh...and all the traveling on private jets. Way to go Gore!

I think the Prophet Gore uses more electricity in a month than I use in a year yet I'm supposed to change the way I live? farking douche. And the eco doomsayers wonder why a lot of people don't take Gore seriously.


YESYESYESYES!

Dubai Vol: During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

Enough said...

The REAL inventors of the Internet...circa 1969

soy_bomb: I worried about your carbon footprint, not mine...

/How many trees had to die to cover Al's desk?

I don't know about the tree's but what did he do to that poor frog?!?!

/And how long before the Foobies site get's shut down for environmental reasons - I'm telling you this is just another angle to get rid of our Internet PORN!!

EZ1923: GaryPDX: Hubert Sumlin: And Gore never said that.

He never said those exact words but he did try to take credit for it.

A lie. (new window)

I'm convinced that this, and all the other irrational responses that arise from certain corners whenever Al Gore's name is mentioned, are a direct result of the abject failure of the last 8 years. Had Bush been a success Gore, and the contested election of 2000, would be an historical footnote.

However, he has now been elevated to the Great What-Might-Have-Been. We're now at a point where the country has collectively decided to treat Gore as basically an ex-prez. This infuriates "conservatives" to no end, and so they continually trot out the old internet meme, and whatever else they can find to deflect attention away from that continuing train of fail that they brought into being.

Sad, really.

It is not a lie. He claimed credit for "creating the Internet", which is the same thing. The definition of invent (new window) is... "to originate or create as a product of one's own ingenuity, experimentation, or contrivance: to invent the telegraph."

So quit splitting hairs get over yourself.

Actual quote was, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

CNN Transcript (new window)

Very good point, Phil_M. And the generalization of your idea is also true. These issues must be considered from a dualistic perspective.

LOOK OVER THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE FOLLOWING TWO HOUSES AND SEE IF YOU CAN TELL WHICH BELONGS TO AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

HOUSE # 1:

A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house all heated by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400.00 per month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 timesthe national average for an American home. This house is not in a northern or Midwestern "snow belt," either. It's in the South.

HOUSE # 2:

Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms)and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F.)
heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas, and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Flowers and shrubs native to the area blend the property into the surrounding rural landscape.

HOUSE # 1 (20 room energy guzzling mansion) is outside of Nashville, Tennessee. It is the abode of that renowned environmentalist (and filmmaker) Al Gore.

HOUSE # 2 (model eco-friendly house) is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas. Also known as "the Texas White House," it is the private residence of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.

So whose house is gentler on the environment? Yet another story you WON'T hear on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC or read about in the New York Times or the Washington Post. Indeed, for Mr. Gore, it's truly "an inconvenient truth."

Link

(Marked as "True".)

thereadlines: Oh please.

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2. Boiling a kettle generates about 15g."

So, less than half is "about the same amount?" Whenever I see stretching like that, my bullshiat detector goes crazy and I'm inclined to disregard the rest.

It says 2 searches = one kettle for tea; therefore 2 x 7 = 14 or almost 15.

EZ1923: GaryPDX: Hubert Sumlin: And Gore never said that.

He never said those exact words but he did try to take credit for it.

A lie. (new window)

I'm convinced that this, and all the other irrational responses that arise from certain corners whenever Al Gore's name is mentioned, are a direct result of the abject failure of the last 8 years. Had Bush been a success Gore, and the contested election of 2000, would be an historical footnote.

However, he has now been elevated to the Great What-Might-Have-Been. We're now at a point where the country has collectively decided to treat Gore as basically an ex-prez.

Wow. First time I've heard that spin.

Hubert Sumlin: And Gore never said that.

"...I took initiative in creating the internet."

/create, invent- close enough

TheGreatGildersleeve: LOOK OVER THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE FOLLOWING TWO HOUSES AND SEE IF YOU CAN TELL WHICH BELONGS TO AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

HOUSE # 1:

A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house all heated by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400.00 per month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 timesthe national average for an American home. This house is not in a northern or Midwestern "snow belt," either. It's in the South.

HOUSE # 2:

Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms)and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F.)
heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas, and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Flowers and shrubs native to the area blend the property into the surrounding rural landscape.

HOUSE # 1 (20 room energy guzzling mansion) is outside of Nashville, Tennessee. It is the abode of that renowned environmentalist (and filmmaker) Al Gore.

HOUSE # 2 (model eco-friendly house) is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas. Also known as "the Texas White House," it is the private residence of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.

So whose house is gentler on the environment? Yet another story you WON'T hear on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC or read about in the New York Times or the Washington Post. Indeed, for Mr. Gore, it's truly "an inconvenient truth."

Link

(Marked as "True".)

Al Gore's House is also his business headquarters. An apt comparison would be to the White House, which is Bush's house and his business headquarters.

Let me know when you've got those numbers. Until then, stop being misleading. Of course someone who uses their house for work too is going to use more energy than someone who only uses their house to live in.

Factory Trained Pediatrician: thereadlines: So, less than half is "about the same amount?"

Sorry, but you fail at math. The solution is actually in what you're quoting:
"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research. While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2. Boiling a kettle generates about 15g."

So 2 * 7g = 14g ~ 15g.

OK, I'll bite. How does a Google search generate CO2? I know, I'm kinda dumb, so tell me slowly.