The test was on a dead pig. What if the person is alive?

And more importantly, perhaps, was that scene in Fargo realistic?

But an unusual experiment involving the carcass of a pig helped explain the scene

mmmmmm, sliced up pig.

Did he write the research paper?

/DNRTA

It's why I always use a vat of acid.

/ Errm.. I mean: my friend always uses a vat of acid.

// I mean: a guy I once met told me that his friend always uses a vat of acid...

very interesting article. Thanks for the post subby!

Came for the Dexter references, left satisfied.

Thanks, snuff3r.

McCulloch does not recommend you use their chainsaws in this fashion.

Husqvarna apparently has no problems with this.

Poulan is also good.

ZAZ: And more importantly, perhaps, was that scene in Fargo realistic?

You mean the scene with the two hookers?Yeah, that does happen.

If you use one of these, you will have better results.

If Beavis and Butthead became doctors of forensics...

Pretty irresponsible article; at least the Mythbusters do a 'Don't Try This At Home' psa before every episode.

Does NOT approve


Preferred a knife, anyway

ZAZ
The test was on a dead pig. What if the person is alive?
And more importantly, perhaps, was that scene in Fargo realistic?


There was a call a few years ago where a lady cut off her own leg with a chain saw (the reasons are even weirder). Anyway, there was blood but she didn't "bleed out" that fast. Some vessels tend to "retract" off when there's a "clean cut." If she has ripped off her own leg it would have been completely different. There was alot of blood, but not as much as you would think.

AliasUndercover: Science!!!

Here it comes??

snuff3r: Did he write the research paper?

/DNRTA

Came looking for Dexter, only took 3 posts. Well done

Not available for comments....

Out proving you wrong :P

I suppose the most realistic way to study the effects of chainsaw dismemberment on a live human would be to use a live human.

Any volunteers?

Came for the Dexter reference, left satisfied.

turtle-tracks: ZAZ
The test was on a dead pig. What if the person is alive?
And more importantly, perhaps, was that scene in Fargo realistic?


There was a call a few years ago where a lady cut off her own leg with a chain saw (the reasons are even weirder). Anyway, there was blood but she didn't "bleed out" that fast. Some vessels tend to "retract" off when there's a "clean cut." If she has ripped off her own leg it would have been completely different. There was alot of blood, but not as much as you would think.

If she lived, guess would be that it was between 1 and 4 pints.

The thing about using a dead pig is that the blood isn't circulating and pumping. Using a live human allows you the benefit of the heart pumping blood at a high rate through the arteries. While this is indeed interesting, I suspect that their are flaws in their study that they can't iron out unless they buy a poor Guatemalan child and have at it with a Mastercraft.

GavinTheAlmighty: The thing about using a dead pig is that the blood isn't circulating and pumping. Using a live human allows you the benefit of the heart pumping blood at a high rate through the arteries. While this is indeed interesting, I suspect that their are flaws in their study that they can't iron out unless they buy a poor Guatemalan child and have at it with a Mastercraft.

Except that they don't think the woman was murdered with the chainsaw, just dismembered. Most chainsaw dismemberments, outside of horror movies anyway, are done to make disposing of a dead body easy, not to do the actual killing. It's just impractical.

The article didn't say whether the woman was alive or dead at the time of dismemberment.

Astra: Except that they don't think the woman was murdered with the chainsaw, just dismembered. Most chainsaw dismemberments, outside of horror movies anyway, are done to make disposing of a dead body easy, not to do the actual killing. It's just impractical.

That's what I get for not RTFA.

Any kind of dead animal will not prove the same blood/tissue splatter as a living animal. Living tissue is softer and will "stick" (like to a wall) better. Same as blood, it travels through your blood vessels when alive. So if dead, little blood is flowing so little splatter, and harder,dead tissue won't "stick" so less of a mess that way too.

tell the guy to kill a living pig "in the name of science" and re-write the article.

intrigued

LonMead: Hus

Feels left out:

Amateurs

some_wild-eyed_8-foot_tall_maniac
If she lived, guess would be that it was between 1 and 4 pints...

She lived. Remember the average human adult body who is between 150 to 160 pounds, can hold approx 4.7 and 5 liters of blood. I like to look at it this way visually with maybe another coke thrown in:

If you're really angry at the person a chainsaw can be cathartic but if you're just trying to take care of business, it's best to use a very sharp knife to cut down to bone then use a hacksaw to cut the bone. In other words, butcher the body. This separates the limbs and head for easy transport. If the torso is too big or heavy, gut it. That removes a lot of weight. Then bone-saw up the ribcage and sternum to collapse the remaining volume.

You need to think these things through. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Mr. Potatoass
I LOL'd

/Now I feel bad because I was thinking of that woman :(
//damn you!!

mr. Belvedere: The article didn't say whether the woman was alive or dead at the time of dismemberment.

She was dead. A dead, deaf lesbian. For real. The killer was just a deaf lesbian. It was an interesting trial to follow, if you lived in SD. Cost the State a fortune to go to trial, every last sound in the courtroom needed to be interpreted to the defendant via sign language, and captioning. Terribly gruesome for a domestic spat turned into murder.

Am I really first?

Clarification..
/Now I feel bad because I was thinking of that woman :(
//damn you!!

The woman from my story not from drewsclues

/gaaaa...now I feel even worse :(
//this is what I get for coming to Fark

mr. Belvedere: The article didn't say whether the woman was alive or dead at the time of dismemberment.

Like I said, murders are RARELY performed with a chainsaw, it's more of a clean-up device. This story and others indicate she was killed, then dismembered.

baercat: Any kind of dead animal will not prove the same blood/tissue splatter as a living animal. Living tissue is softer and will "stick" (like to a wall) better. Same as blood, it travels through your blood vessels when alive. So if dead, little blood is flowing so little splatter, and harder,dead tissue won't "stick" so less of a mess that way too.

tell the guy to kill a living pig "in the name of science" and re-write the article.

There won't be much difference in consistency between a living victim and one who had been dead for a few hours in most conditions. Most blood spatter in the case of a chainsaw is going to be caused by the blade acting on the victim, not arterial spurts anyway.

RabidDog: mmmmmm, sliced up pig.

Free bacon for everybody!

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: intrigued

Two things I don't understand

1. I don't understand what the hell is happening there when Shelly Duvall sees that and runs away

2. I don't understand why that is applicable here. The answer to 1 may answer 2.

GavinTheAlmighty: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: intrigued

Two things I don't understand

1. I don't understand what the hell is happening there when Shelly Duvall sees that and runs away

2. I don't understand why that is applicable here. The answer to 1 may answer 2.


I think it was more of a WTF factor than anything else.

I think I'll just go ahead and take his word for it.

/yeek

Astra
This story. and others indicate she was killed, then dismembered.


/There's such a thing as news.deafqueer.org?

Came for the Dexter, stayed for the Linnea Quigley, who still haunts my dreams.

/there weren't even any chainsaws in ancient Egypt?
//But what about the chainsaws of the Gods?

GavinTheAlmighty: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: intrigued

Two things I don't understand

1. I don't understand what the hell is happening there when Shelly Duvall sees that and runs away

2. I don't understand why that is applicable here. The answer to 1 may answer 2.

The pigface demon is giving head to the lawyer demon, and she interrupted them. How inconsiderate of her....

/no, it has no relevance in a chainsaw murder thread

"You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together."

qwave54: The pigface demon is giving head to the lawyer demon, and she interrupted them. How inconsiderate of her....

/no, it has no relevance in a chainsaw murder thread

Yeah, I figured that's what was going on. I just didn't understand why it was in the movie. Is it really just "OK, she's scared and running and WTF HERE'S A DOG GIVEN HEAD TO A DUDE IN A SUIT. THIS MAKES NO SENSE. RUN YOU UGLY biatch RUN"

It was just an excuse to post a furry.

I cut myself with a chainsaw once just above the left knee. Sure it was a quarter inch wide instant gash about four inches long but surprisingly almost no bleeding from that area. It didn't really hurt all that much either but it was ugly. I got to take my pants off in front of two lovely nurses in the hospital so it wasn't all bad.

Priapic: If you're really angry at the person a chainsaw can be cathartic but if you're just trying to take care of business, it's best to use a very sharp knife to cut down to bone then use a hacksaw to cut the bone. In other words, butcher the body. This separates the limbs and head for easy transport. If the torso is too big or heavy, gut it. That removes a lot of weight. Then bone-saw up the ribcage and sternum to collapse the remaining volume.

You need to think these things through. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Save yourself time and effort and cut through the joints with a sharp knife. Most can be separated with a little twisting motion as you cut cartilage and ligaments. Same can be done with the spine below the rib cage.

/Yes, I have butchered mammals before.

Its_A_Tarp: AliasUndercover: Science!!!

Here it comes??

No, she blinded dismembered me with it!

Astra: Except that they don't think the woman was murdered with the chainsaw, just dismembered. Most chainsaw dismemberments, outside of horror movies anyway, are done to make disposing of a dead body easy, not to do the actual killing. It's just impractical.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

billyboyxoxox: I cut myself with a chainsaw once just above the left knee. Sure it was a quarter inch wide instant gash about four inches long but surprisingly almost no bleeding from that area.

I'm surprised that the chainsaws are "clean cut" so the vessels would retract or whatever. I've only ever used a chainsaw on a stump, and it seems to rip bits (with sharp teeth, granted) so the cut is wide. I thought maybe for the "it's a clean cut you're lucky it's easier to fix" you needed a good sharp kitchen knife or sword or whatever.

But certainly if someone is planning ahead for easy disposal of the body, looking in a field-dressing guide for large animals is your best bet? Butchering tools!

The more you know...