Anyone have a link to the stuff he has posted?

z_gringo: Anyone have a link to the stuff he has posted?



I sure do. EIP. And be sure to include your home address!

Approves.

As a former founding staff contributor at Perverted-Justice.com, I'm sure I'll probably get a kick out of these replies.

FTA: child protection groups and authorities ... warned the website could force the suspected pedophiles to go underground to avoid further detection.

I blame those child protection groups for driving pedophiles further underground.

Oh crap, I'll have to stop visiting Hannah Montana's website.

MaxxLarge: As a former founding staff contributor at Perverted-Justice.com, I'm sure I'll probably get a kick out of these replies.

I knew I would see you in here. Perverted Justice sucks. You helped this happen.

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z_gringo: Anyone have a link to the stuff he has posted?

I'm not getting a kick out of these replies.

So basically, he's going to fark up the real police's investigations, and give the very people he's trying to put away some sort of legal loophole to slip through? Maybe he should concentrate on teaching parents where the power button on the computer is.

Snarfle: So basically, he's going to fark up the real police's investigations, and give the very people he's trying to put away some sort of legal loophole to slip through?

Look, officers are getting paid good money to sit around in chat rooms pretending to be teenage girls trolling for dick. You can't just have people doing this crap for free.

Or how about a better, albeit long article on why "To Catch a Predator" sucks.

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Finally somebody's thinking of the children.

/Aside from the perverts, that is
//But that's not the right kind of thinking

Iwouldhitit: Approves.

Wow. That picture looks exactly like a 13 year old boy with boobs photoshopped in. I prefer women with curves.

Lamune_Baba: Look, officers are getting paid good money to sit around in chat rooms pretending to be teenage girls trolling for dick. You can't just have people doing this crap for free.

If he doesn't follow all the laws regarding this sort of thing to a T, the perp stands a good chance of getting off on a technicality. Plus, he's putting himself in danger as well. He tries to nab a dirtbag, dirtbag gets off, dirtbag shoots Mr. Vigilante for ruining the rest of his life. He's posting a ton of information about these guys online, and if he can get that much info, so can they.

Basically, all I'm saying is leave the investigations to the investigators. It's all fine if he starts a few chats and kicks the bushes to weed out the little kids just trying to have a quick sexual thrill online, but if he finds a genuine pederast, he needs to forward all the info to the proper authorities, and let them handle it, since they have the legal ability, not to mention all manner of fancy firearms to protect themselves if pervo goes all "I'm taking you all out with me!".

MaxxLarge: As a former founding staff contributor at Perverted-Justice.com, I'm sure I'll probably get a kick out of these replies.

Congratulations, you have indeed perverted the court of justice. Pedos are awful, but nothing good comes from subverting the justice system. The damage people like you do to the foundations of this country is far worse than that done by child molesters. Shame on you.

Internet vigilantes are pathetic losers who have no life of their own. You really that committed to stopping pedophilia? Become a cop. Become a Children's Services social worker. Become a Bishop in the Catholic Church. All of those occupations offer you a chance to actually reduce child abuse.

PJ, or the guy in the article? It's just another version of WoW for these guys. "Wow, check my score! I'm HELPING!!! My side is teh WINNAR!!!"

Then giving interviews about it? Yeah, total attention whore.

/Cue ITG response in 3...2...

Sounds like a good idea, but he's taking it too far. I volunteered with the cops a decade ago to do what he's doing. The difference is I'd turn it over to them the moment the perv turned the tone of the dialogue sexual.

That's the key. You can't guide them into it. Doing that is called entrapment.

On the YouTube site, the vigilante said he believed in meting out justice to the "pedophile scum that manipulate and prey on vulnerable kids and teenagers".

Anyone that obsessed is covering their own guilt.

Most popular reasons to fark up society:
1. Fighting terrorism
2. Fighting paedophiles
3. Making people feel safe

DeRosso: Most popular reasons to fark up society:
1. Fighting terrorism
2. Fighting paedophiles
3. Making people feel safe


1. Random hysterical fear

Iwouldhitit: Approves.

No shame in her. That's Ellen Page. She's gussied up to look a lot younger, but she was old enough to dance the night away when she made Hard Candy.

I like her. She's good people.

NYZooMan: On the YouTube site, the vigilante said he believed in meting out justice to the "pedophile scum that manipulate and prey on vulnerable kids and teenagers".

Anyone that obsessed is covering their own guilt.

Typically, yes. Please see yet-to-be-caught MaxxLarge above.

downtownkid: On the YouTube site, the vigilante said he believed in meting out justice to the "pedophile scum that manipulate and prey on vulnerable kids and teenagers".

Sounds more to me like this guy.

Let's see. This guy trolls the internet as a 13 year old looking for sex and then posts naked picture on YouTube.

Oh yeah, he's a freak'n pervert.

Vigilante justice is not justice. Revenge perhaps, or a way to make a buck and get your crap on TV. Some of the stories are even pretty good.

Ultimately, vigilante justice is worse than no justice, history proves this, again and again.

And now we have the awesome that is Perverted-Justice.com .

Yes, the people they expose are idiots. That probably deserve what they got, at least what we see on camera.

But ask yourselves: As the lawsuits mount and the guys let go on technicalities climbs, have you ultimately done the cause you allegedly stand for more harm than good?

Add up the number of pedos you've put in jail against the number of pedos you have taught valuable lessons to on how to escape justice.

Add up the cost to local law enforcement and towns paying judgements to pedos you helped deny the right to a fair trial to, because as you might not know, everyone in America is guaranteed the right to a fair trial, EVEN PEDOS who are not yet convicted.

I'm just wondering if any of you guys has a sense of conscience or responsibility. Probably not, but unlike what MSNBC shows on TV, there are multiple sides to the story you have created. The side you tell, and the rest where vigilante justice screws up the legal system and lets guilty guys walk.

Well done kids.

Couldn't you have just stuck to trolling HNG on IRC ? And left playing cop to the, you know, real police ?

I'm sure Chris Hansen remembers you at xmas time, I would hope anyway. You made his career.

I'm working on a perverted vigilante entrapment of a perverted justice story, so this is relevant to my interests.

/perverted justice volunteer eventually engages in online harassment
//thrown in jail for refusing to learn math

Dear sweetthing1987,
Since our last chat, pictures of my swollen dingus appeared on YouTube. I was wondering if you had the chance to show them to your friends yet? ..BRB someone's at my door..

Checking MaxxLarge's profile, I find it highly ironic he lists "Sanctimony" as one of his dislikes, along with pedophiles.

By Any Means Necessary we catch pedos. Even if it means letting them walk later because we entrapped them playing copper now. Yet question us on it and we'll call you a friend of pedos. Its not sanctimony when we force our beliefs on everyone that does not agree, because we found a cause we think justifies our vigilanteism more than any other cause out there. So we win the battle and help lose the war, don't you dare say we didn't have Mission Accomplished.

I can't help but get a strong "hey you're ruining the grade curve here dude!" vibe from law enforcement's comments.

At university, one of my housemates had made quite a nice monthly income doing something simular. He posed as a kid online, and got groomed by the guys. When he got all the information from them, he would blackmail them by saying he'd expose them to the world (and police) unless they gave him £100 a month into his paypal account. He had 4 or 5 of them on this scheme, and was getting a good monthly supplimented income of about £500. Why condemn these people when you can personally profit from them? Maybe I should set up a simular racket if this credit crunch gets much worse.

madmann: ...Become a Bishop in the Catholic Church. All of those occupations offer you a chance to actually reduce child abuse.

Are you sure about that?

PJ, or the guy in the article? It's just another version of WoW for these guys. "Wow, check my score! I'm HELPING!!! My side is teh WINNAR!!!"

If I had a quarter for every good-intentioned soul I've met who wanted to tear into pervs, I could buy a really sweet go-kart. One time, one of these gung-ho amateurs made such a clusterfark of a case that we had to wait until the perv came back. We caught him after he molested a girl whose much older sister I knew. It could have been avoided and I still feel bad for the girl.

Then giving interviews about it? Yeah, total attention whore.

Attention whore and painfully stupid. A rat will only come out when it thinks it's safe. You don't let these guys know anyone's watching for them.

/Cue ITG response in 3...2...

Anyone who likes everything about baiting pervs hasn't gone deep enough into it. I started my term for the same reason most do--because I liked the idea of helping catch them. I only lasted a few months. The way things changed after I handed the leads off made my skin crawl.

I was only a filter. The people who did the actual sustained work and did it well are heroes to me. Not just for getting pervs away from kids, but for being able to interact with these guys and be there for the arrest without killing the perv--or themselves out of the grave depression that witnessing such things brings on, for that matter.

Anyone who thinks that work is a 100m dash and not an all-terrain double marathon is dreaming.

No internet tough guy here. I'm so not tough with this I'm using Fark as my support group for something that happened more than ten years ago. What's that tell you?

Now I may not be a lawyer, and I'm not completely sure of the US's criminal system. It would seem to me that during these "stings" if the accused at any point of these conversations said, "I'm assuming you're over 18 and are into role playing that of an underage girl is this correct?" then the law enforcement officer answers yes, then these vigilante groups have no case.

If the person is over 18, which they usually are since they're police officers, and they answer yes, then no crime can be committed, as they have verified that they're over 18.

If they say no, and the person continues to talk to them, well then....they're taking a risk that it's an undercover officer.

Came for the Hard Candy reference, left satisfied.

/fap

blubaldnuglee: Dear sweetthing1987 97,
Since our last chat, pictures of my swollen dingus appeared on YouTube. I was wondering if you had the chance to show them to your friends yet? ..BRB someone's at my door..

Ok, I suck at math too

DeRosso: Most popular reasons to fark up society:
1. Fighting terrorism
2. Fighting paedophiles
3. Making people feel safe

... and not knowing the 50 people who live in closest physical proximity to yourself.

Seriously, I've lived in cities for almost twenty years now, and I've found it incredibly difficult to meet anyone who lives nearby. I don't mean meet, like have dinner with, but to even know the face of the people who live on my block or in my building. WTF?

Others must have this problem, and I'm thinking it can't be good for us - constantly being distracted by the actions of otherwise insignificant individuals hundreds or thousands of miles away, while not having a chance to play a constructive, active role in the lives of those around us. You calm down once you realize that you're not surrounded by pedophiles & terrorists.

I Said: z_gringo: Anyone have a link to the stuff he has posted?



I sure do. EIP. And be sure to include your home address!

Hmmmm. This man seems trustworthy and honest. My address is 1060 West Addison.

Snarfle: Maybe he should concentrate on teaching parents where the power button on the computer is.

Pretty much. Our kids don't get unsupervised internet access, period. The kid's computer is in the family room, where we can see it. They don't even have the passwords to their own accounts - one of us has to log them on (which makes revocation of computer privileges an easily-enforced punishment).

While I think pedarasts are sick, most of the guys these catch are just losers looking for any action, not just underage girls. Plus the whole entrapment thing.

NYZooMan: Anyone that obsessed is covering their own guilt.

Bingo. Same deal as the rabid homophobes, who are all pretty much either deeply closeted homosexuals and/or in denial about their own sexual fantasies.

Hetty Johnston from child protection group Bravehearts said: "While his motivations most likely are genuine, his actions are unlikely to get an appropriate result."

Well that pretty much sums it up.

The fundamental fallacy of Perverted Justice, Catch a Predator, this, etc is that it operates on the groundless and false assumption that these kids actually need to be "lured" at all.

A study put out not to long ago - and linked here on fark - showed, conclusively, that the whole "internet predator" hysteria is fundamentally just that - hysteria.

It showed that approximately 70% of the time (if memory serves) when under-aged girls met older men for sex they knew full well that they were meeting older men for sex, very often initiated the idea and - their age precluding their ability to consent to sex with an OLDER person - they were very likely already sexually active.

So, not only is the idea that these were "innocent," sexually inexperienced girls being "forced" into sex patently false, so is the notion that they're somehow being "preyed upon" by older men as they're knowingly seeking out and agreeing to sexual liaisons with them.

"We strongly discourage this approach afront to our monopoly on justice and urge anyone who has information about pedophiles to contact police," a police officer said.

Oh_Enough_Already: The fundamental fallacy of Perverted Justice, Catch a Predator, this, etc is that it operates on the groundless and false assumption that these kids actually need to be "lured" at all.

A study put out not to long ago - and linked here on fark - showed, conclusively, that the whole "internet predator" hysteria is fundamentally just that - hysteria.

It showed that approximately 70% of the time (if memory serves) when under-aged girls met older men for sex they knew full well that they were meeting older men for sex, very often initiated the idea and - their age precluding their ability to consent to sex with an OLDER person - they were very likely already sexually active.

So, not only is the idea that these were "innocent," sexually inexperienced girls being "forced" into sex patently false, so is the notion that they're somehow being "preyed upon" by older men as they're knowingly seeking out and agreeing to sexual liaisons with them.

Interesting to see you have read your NAMBLA pamphlets.

This is why there exist an age of concent, it's absurd to deny sexuality in children and young teenagers, but even more absurd is using that as an excuse to nail 12 year olds. Abuse is abuse because the adult is in a position of superiority, mentally and socially (not to mention physically), and is taking advantage of a kid who will hardly come out of that as a better person with a more mature view of sexual relationships, regardless of whether the kid wanted it or not. Sex is not just penis and vagina, is a whole dimension of the human mind that is being shaped precisely in those years of adolecense and is so easy to just screw it up, these relationships can't be healthy, one of the parties is not mature enough to deal with the repercutions, the other is taking advantage of that.

Its similar to obese children and trying to excuse the irresponsible parents because "the kids kept asking for food!", not the best analogy but I think gets the point across.

Oh_Enough_Already: The fundamental fallacy of Perverted Justice, Catch a Predator, this, etc is that it operates on the groundless and false assumption that these kids actually need to be "lured" at all.

A study put out not to long ago - and linked here on fark - showed, conclusively, that the whole "internet predator" hysteria is fundamentally just that - hysteria.

It showed that approximately 70% of the time (if memory serves) when under-aged girls met older men for sex they knew full well that they were meeting older men for sex, very often initiated the idea and - their age precluding their ability to consent to sex with an OLDER person - they were very likely already sexually active.

So, not only is the idea that these were "innocent," sexually inexperienced girls being "forced" into sex patently false, so is the notion that they're somehow being "preyed upon" by older men as they're knowingly seeking out and agreeing to sexual liaisons with them.

3/10, not sure exactly what you were going for. Collect your thoughts and try again?

blubaldnuglee:
swollen dingus

Their first two albums were better than the new stuff.

It's called entrapment and it means the pedophile walks free after his day in court

/well intentioned but a dumbass
//probably a good way to be sued for "cyberbullying" as well