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(Toledo Blade) Dumbass Cop in trouble after women realize that breast fondling and UFIV while being frisked aren't normal parts of the average traffic stop   (toledoblade.com) divider line 87
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gigamortis [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-01-10 03:03:42 PM  
What's his Fark handle?

 
Skid Roe v. Wade Boggs [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 03:37:58 PM  
gigamortis: What's his Fark handle?

badlieutenant

 
Saborlas [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 05:25:06 PM  
A cop abusing his authority? Color me surprised.

 
Churchill2004 [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 05:37:41 PM  
Saborlas: A cop abusing his authority? Color me surprised.

This is another example of why it's such a bad idea to treat traffic safety regulations (and their enforcement) as a criminal justice matter. Regular, armed police officers should not be responsible for issuing traffic citations. The vast majority of traffic stops are about a)revenue and b) opportunities to enforce other victimless crime laws, like drug prohibition, not keeping the roads safe. Police officers become people who instill fear and loathing in the citizenry rather than trust and respect when the average cop/citizen interaction is so charged with angst and hostility, particularly for anyone under 25. We used to have a much more accurate name for what these glorified thugs do: "highway robber".

 
abb3w [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 05:57:26 PM  
Churchill2004: other victimless crime laws, like drug prohibition

On consideration, I don't think it's quite "victimless crime laws" so much as "laws whose enforcement does more harm than the absence". Having known a few addicts (four crack cocaine, numerous tobacco and alcohol, one heroin), yes, drug use has victims, even beyond the users themselves.

Churchill2004: Police officers become people who instill fear and loathing in the citizenry rather than trust and respect when the average cop/citizen interaction is so charged with angst and hostility, particularly for anyone under 25.

I agree that this is a problem. Feel free to suggest an alternative, specify what harms will result, and show that the harm will be less than present conditions.

Anyone who thinks they have a solution that will result in no harm whatsoever (instead of merely less net harm) is an ignorant idiot. The second law of thermodynamics assures the lack (beyond ±(ħc)3) of a free lunch.

 
Karma Chameleon 2009-01-10 06:35:27 PM  
A veteran Toledo police officer was charged with two counts of sexual imposition

Imposition? That's straight up sexual assault.

Oh wait, he's a cop, nevermind.

 
blessthe40oz 2009-01-10 06:37:02 PM  
It was probably just an accident, now this poor guy is going to get fired for this.

 
Eddie Adams from Torrance [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 06:37:43 PM  
abb3w: I agree that this is a problem. Feel free to suggest an alternative, specify what harms will result, and show that the harm will be less than present conditions.

Anyone who thinks they have a solution that will result in no harm whatsoever (instead of merely less net harm) is an ignorant idiot. The second law of thermodynamics assures the lack (beyond ±(ħc)3) of a free lunch.


And this is why the system is so difficult to change. As soon as any alternate plan is presented, those who will feel the increased
pain that must be felt somewhere will scream ZOMG!! YOU'RE SCREWING ME !!11!911!. and politicians will generally retreat back to the status quo. The only politically viable solutions are pretty much ones that only put additional harms on non-voters and non-contributors.

 
PC LOAD LETTER [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 06:38:14 PM  
gigamortis: What's his Fark handle?

I'm traveling.

 
grinderman 2009-01-10 06:38:19 PM  
Some community somewhere must've tried detaching revenue generation from traffic tickets in order to lessen the view that cops are stopping people because the city needs money. Any examples, folks?

 
Pechorin 2009-01-10 06:38:47 PM  
I predict we will see 2 types of morans in this thread.

One type will say that this is the union's fault in some way. The officer was part of the police union therefore all unions are evil blah blah whargarbll

The second type will say that since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

I have to leave for 30 minutes. Let's see if I'm right.

 
thereadlines [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 06:40:25 PM  
This is the union's fault in some wayyyyygarbl

 
ScottHimself 2009-01-10 06:40:46 PM  
After reviewing several videos It's obvious to me that the officer in question merely mistook the victims' breasts as standard-issue airbags.

 
TheMiddleFinger 2009-01-10 06:41:12 PM  
Wonder if this is how it will go down....

Investigating officer: Yes, your honor, I reviewed the patrol car's video. No wrongdoing here.

Judge: Well, I have to dismiss the case on lack of evidence then. Dismissed!

 
Solty Dog 2009-01-10 06:41:31 PM  
Since this happened in Toledo, maybe he was just trying to keep his hands warm. Also, what is the point of having authority if you aren't allowed abuse it in some way.

 
3skin 2009-01-10 06:41:49 PM  
Did he administer breathalizer tests to these women?

 
blessthe40oz 2009-01-10 06:42:24 PM  
The victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

 
Chris P. Bacon [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 06:43:10 PM  
Two important things to remember here;

1) It's the union's fault in some way. The officer was part of the police union therefore all unions are evil.

2) Since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it.

 
Pechorin 2009-01-10 06:44:06 PM  
thereadlines: This is the union's fault in some wayyyyygarbl

blessthe40oz: The victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

Chris P. Bacon: Two important things to remember here;

1) It's the union's fault in some way. The officer was part of the police union therefore all unions are evil.

2) Since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it.


I love you guys.

 
Oznog 2009-01-10 06:44:38 PM  
A veteran Toledo police officer was charged with two counts of sexual imposition

Karma Chameleon: Imposition? That's straight up sexual assault.

Oh wait, he's a cop, nevermind.


i15.photobucket.com

The Imposition,
let's begin
The Imposition,
look out sin..
We got a mission to search through your boobs
that your boobs just can't refuse HEY

 
blessthe40oz 2009-01-10 06:44:43 PM  
If the union wouldn't let officers get away with this type of thing, then it would never happen.

 
Pfirsiche 2009-01-10 06:44:46 PM  
Since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

 
Balchinian 2009-01-10 06:44:54 PM  
He just thought they were smuggling sand.

 
Sergeant Grumbles 2009-01-10 06:47:19 PM  
Simple solution.

Remove monetary fines entirely from any and all infractions of the law that are harmless/victimless. Speeding, no fine. You may still be punished with points on your license, or even arrested for reckless endangerment or clear impairment, but no fine. Jaywalking, same. No fine. Drug posession, even if illegal, gives no fine, just jail time.

Police departments don't need the revenue, especially if it's only there to fund more officers and perks. Small towns don't need to pad their bottom line with the money of people passing through a speed trap, especially when it's taken at gunpoint by thug policemen.

Take the money out of the equation, and the cops will be forced to look for real crime, and only take the time to stop people who are ACTUALLY a danger. They'll leave alone the speeder going 70 in a 60 zone, but might actually take the time to stop and arrest the guy doing 80 through a school zone.

 
blessthe40oz 2009-01-10 06:47:37 PM  
blessthe40oz.com

 
AzErNy 2009-01-10 06:49:21 PM  
www.femalefirst.co.uk

Begs to differ

 
Unsung_Hero 2009-01-10 06:52:51 PM  
You'd be surprised - according to the local papers, the police have transferred resources to traffic enforcement based on volume of public complaints.

Of course, I'm in Canada, not South Buttfark, Arkansas.

 
GreenSun 2009-01-10 06:53:16 PM  
His name might be McQueen, but his hands are the King!

 
AnyName 2009-01-10 06:54:21 PM  
As usual, here come the fark cop haters. If you've go nothing to hide in your vagina you shouldn't have a problem with them searching it!!

 
cassanovascotian 2009-01-10 06:54:23 PM  

Pechorin
I predict we will see 2 types of morans in this thread.

One type will say that this is the union's fault in some way. The officer was part of the police union therefore all unions are evil blah blah whargarbll

The second type will say that since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

I have to leave for 30 minutes. Let's see if I'm right.

Churchill2004: Police officers become people who instill fear and loathing in the citizenry rather than trust and respect when the average cop/citizen interaction is so charged with angst and hostility, particularly for anyone under 25.

I agree that this is a problem. Feel free to suggest an alternative, specify what harms will result, and show that the harm will be less than present conditions.

Anyone who thinks they have a solution that will result in no harm whatsoever (instead of merely less net harm) is an ignorant idiot. The second law of thermodynamics assures the lack (beyond ±(ħc)3) of a free lunch.

Hmmm... I'm more of the "most cops are still decent people, but of course there are idiots who abuse their power and need to be weeded out and held accountable to validate society's faith in the rest of the police" persuasion.

-Was pretty sure that most people would be on board with that one here. But I digress, you were all shouting ?

/gets
www.nasa.gov
//sits down

 
TheMega 2009-01-10 06:55:24 PM  
Well.. he probably figured if other police could shoot unarmed people and merely get 'investigated', he could surely get away with some innocent nipple pinching and never dreamed any CHARGES could possibly be filed.

 
Wentzbag 2009-01-10 06:56:58 PM  
While normally I would say this is the union's fault, the suspects had drugs so they had it coming to them.

 
now now plz git ur farks str8 2009-01-10 06:57:12 PM  
i488.photobucket.com

Approves

 
dodecahedron [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 06:58:54 PM  
3skin: Did he administer breathalizer tests to these women?

Haha, I remember that joke.

and...+1 to the other poster for bad lieutenant reference

 
GoodasGold 2009-01-10 06:59:11 PM  
If "reach(ing) into the woman's brassiere and feel her nipples" is wrong, I don't want to be right.

 
Pechorin 2009-01-10 07:01:17 PM  
cassanovascotian: Pechorin
I predict we will see 2 types of morans in this thread.

One type will say that this is the union's fault in some way. The officer was part of the police union therefore all unions are evil blah blah whargarbll

The second type will say that since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

I have to leave for 30 minutes. Let's see if I'm right.

Churchill2004: Police officers become people who instill fear and loathing in the citizenry rather than trust and respect when the average cop/citizen interaction is so charged with angst and hostility, particularly for anyone under 25.

I agree that this is a problem. Feel free to suggest an alternative, specify what harms will result, and show that the harm will be less than present conditions.

Anyone who thinks they have a solution that will result in no harm whatsoever (instead of merely less net harm) is an ignorant idiot. The second law of thermodynamics assures the lack (beyond ±(ħc)3) of a free lunch.

Hmmm... I'm more of the "most cops are still decent people, but of course there are idiots who abuse their power and need to be weeded out and held accountable to validate society's faith in the rest of the police" persuasion.

-Was pretty sure that most people would be on board with that one here. But I digress, you were all shouting ?

/gets

//sits down


Ummm... my post didn't say anything bad about police I was just commenting on the stupid we see on fark in many of these threads. And my comments have triggered a bunch of people saying exactly what I wanted to see, but sarcastically. So basically it has become impossible to defend the officer's action (if he actually did commit what he is accused of) without looking like you're joking. So I'd say I won here.

 
spermicidal maniac 2009-01-10 07:13:23 PM  
If UFIV is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

 
JamesLi 2009-01-10 07:21:35 PM  
cassanovascotian: Pechorin
I predict we will see 2 types of morans in this thread.

One type will say that this is the union's fault in some way. The officer was part of the police union therefore all unions are evil blah blah whargarbll

The second type will say that since the victims had drugs in their possession the officer did nothing wrong/they deserved it blah blah whargarbllll.

I have to leave for 30 minutes. Let's see if I'm right.

Churchill2004: Police officers become people who instill fear and loathing in the citizenry rather than trust and respect when the average cop/citizen interaction is so charged with angst and hostility, particularly for anyone under 25.

I agree that this is a problem. Feel free to suggest an alternative, specify what harms will result, and show that the harm will be less than present conditions.

Anyone who thinks they have a solution that will result in no harm whatsoever (instead of merely less net harm) is an ignorant idiot. The second law of thermodynamics assures the lack (beyond ±(ħc)3) of a free lunch.

Hmmm... I'm more of the "most cops are still decent people, but of course there are idiots who abuse their power and need to be weeded out and held accountable to validate society's faith in the rest of the police" persuasion.

-Was pretty sure that most people would be on board with that one here. But I digress, you were all shouting ?

/gets

//sits down


What do you think you're doing, using logic! This is Fark.

 
Modified Cornstarch 2009-01-10 07:26:59 PM  
It's how I say "hello" at church.

 
snarkysedai 2009-01-10 07:28:12 PM  
Cop in trouble after women realize that breast fondling and UFIV while being frisked aren't normal parts of the average traffic stop

Then she's been doing it wrong.

 
onebadgungan 2009-01-10 07:30:13 PM  
Saborlas: A cop abusing his authority? Color me surprised.

4

 
onebadgungan 2009-01-10 07:31:36 PM  
Saborlas: A cop abusing his authority? Color me surprised.

Er, sorry. I meant to say, it only took four posts. Feel free to delete my previous post, mods.

 
trapped-in-CH 2009-01-10 07:37:14 PM  
On a related note, if there's any farkette's who'd like to play cop and red-light runner with me, send me a BIE.

/going to for the gold

 
Parsnips-a-Plenty 2009-01-10 07:37:44 PM  
UFIV? Can anyone tell me what it stands for? Ultimate Forces In Vietnam?

 
Son of Thunder 2009-01-10 07:43:05 PM  
"The policy does not allow officers to reach into the woman's brassiere and feel her nipples and that's what he's accused of doing in one incident,"


"I'll handle this one."

 
Parsnips-a-Plenty 2009-01-10 07:43:57 PM  
seminole87: Parsnips-a-Plenty: UFIV? Can anyone tell me what it stands for? Ultimate Forces In Vietnam?

Vagina


Got it. Ultimate Forces in Vagina.

 
apachevoyeur 2009-01-10 07:46:13 PM  
NO one expects the sexual imposition!

ng.netgate.net

/¡caliente ligado! (lolwut?)

 
IvanTuroc 2009-01-10 07:47:17 PM  
Churchill2004:
This is another example of why it's such a bad idea to treat traffic safety regulations (and their enforcement) as a criminal justice matter. Regular, armed police officers should not be responsible for issuing traffic citations. The vast majority of traffic stops are about a)revenue and b) opportunities to enforce other victimless crime laws, like drug prohibition, not keeping the roads safe. Police officers become people who instill fear and loathing in the citizenry rather than trust and respect when the average cop/citizen interaction is so charged with angst and hostility, particularly for anyone under 25. We used to have a much more accurate name for what these glorified thugs do: "highway robber".

The most common sense I have read in a Fark post in a long time. But traffic stops/fines are a primary source of income for cities and state where as highway patrol is involved. The backward logic of government prevails here however. It costs considerably more to pay salary for officers, buy equipment and autos and maintain training than can ever be brought in from fines.

 
seveword 2009-01-10 07:50:01 PM  
What the hell were those little pink wrestler toys called? Ultimate Wrestlers, or something like that?

No idea why I thought of that.

 
AxiomJackson 2009-01-10 07:53:23 PM  
vulva vulva VULVA VULVA VULVA
/Love that word.

 
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