So?

So we're up 24 million? Normally that would be a good thing.

B-b-b-but Clinton!

*thread implosion*

Yeah I had 3 of them at one time to pay my bills. Now I need just one and I get a decent salary working for an evil big company.

To be fair, several during Clinton's administration were short-term blow jobs.

in before the dot com excuse

feckingmorons: Yeah I had 3 of them at one time to pay my bills. Now I need just one and I get a decent salary working for an evil big company.


You are not representative.

At this rate we're set up to gain -6M jobs every year!

flaEsq: At this rate we're set up to gain -6M jobs every year!

Lost nearly 3 million in 2008, so all we have to do is double that!

Partisans! Sling your arrows at one another from now until the end of time if you like, or you could heed George Washington's warnings. This econopacalypse is at least 40 years in the making. Buy now!!, pay whenever, can't? bail out, welfare..rinse repeat.

Tis a fun Merry-Go-Round.

Were there still 24 million unemployed at the start of the Bush Presidency? It's hard to create jobs when there are few unemployed. Seriously, the rate of unemployment, until recently, was about the same. The entire world is having a recession , not just the U.S.

Who cares, I'm still employed.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to head down to the local Bushville and hire some day laborers.

bearsfolks: Were there still 24 million unemployed at the start of the Bush Presidency? It's hard to create jobs when there are few unemployed.


Wow.

I mean, you've been stupid before (that is to say, always), but this really takes the cake.

Do you even understand how stupid what you said truly is?

Someone please post some objective information comparing the relative quality (wages, benefits, etc.) of these jobs.

This all started with Reagan spending wild
Bush just kept the button held down
It continued with Clinton just letting everyone par-tay
Bush continued to let everyone par-tay AND went spending wild

A whole lot of Barney Franks and Larry Craigs helped out a lot too.

This is an equal opportunity debacle built up over a couple of decades.

But, but, Monica!

How many were lost when the Clinton bubble popped?

Snowflake Tubbybottom: So we're up 24 million? Normally that would be a good thing.

Assuming the U.S. population remained completely static* over those 16 years.


*Or even in granting you the most possible leeway an answer that stupid can be given, grew by only 24 million.

And since Obama is trying to re-create the Clinton administration with the same key players, there will be lots of new jobs?

/huh?

Wow. That was a very informative article. It actually put the facts and figures in context. Good job, writer.

/Seriously

vabeard: And since Obama is trying to re-create the Clinton administration with the same key players, there will be lots of new jobs?

/huh?

We can hope. But not until 2010 at the earliest.

I can't stand GWB as much as the next guy but I have to say that the reason why there were so many jobs during the Clinton years was because of the internet boom. Not so much anything that the Clinton administration did, personally. Everyone and their mother were trying to make online stores or become professional website designers. That's where most of the jobs came from.

Remember Pets.com, anyone?

There wasn't a huge technological or agricultural boom during GWB years that would have helped create jobs like the Internet Boom did during the Clinton years.

So, as much as it pains for me to say this, it's not the same.

jbc: Snowflake Tubbybottom: So we're up 24 million? Normally that would be a good thing.

Assuming the U.S. population remained completely static* over those 16 years.


*Or even in granting you the most possible leeway an answer that stupid can be given, grew by only 24 million.

Just to add some data to the discussion:

In 1992, the population was roughly 256,000,000.
In 2000, it was 281,421,906. (+25,000,000)
Currently its about 305,000,000. (+23,500,000)

Source (new window)

mekki: the reason why there were so many jobs during the Clinton years was because of the internet boom.

truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: in before the dot com excuse

knew it would come eventually

Between dropping the ball on 9/11 and his war in Iraq he also created about 7,000 job openings and that's like creating jobs so I hope he's getting credit for those too.

Weren't about a million of the jobs created during the Clinton administration funded by Dick Scaife to dig up dirt on the Clintons?

Dot-com bubble.

9/11.

snark all you want.

truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: mekki: the reason why there were so many jobs during the Clinton years was because of the internet boom.

truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: in before the dot com excuse

knew it would come eventually

Ah, so it's an excuse because you don't accept it. Ooookay.

Also, I wonder how many of Bush's 3 million were for super srs baggage screeners.

Phil Herup: How many were lost when the Clinton bubble popped?

And under whose administration did that "pop" occur?

Oh, that's right.

Phil Herup: How many were lost when the Clinton bubble popped?

Wait, so the existence of the bubble had nothing to do with Clinton, but the disappearance of same did?

/what?

Does Bush really get credit for the vacancies created by 9/11 deaths and sending soldiers to the Middle East?

Barricaded Gunman: Phil Herup: How many were lost when the Clinton bubble popped?

And under whose administration did that "pop" occur?

Oh, that's right.

Clinton's. The dot.com bubble burst in 2000.

Clinton got lucky in that there was a revolution in business that happened to occur while he was President. Despite the fact that he tried to kill it with tax hikes, it happened anyway.

"Depends on what your definition of a job is."

"What's that about teaching a woman to fish?"

"I'm going to say this again. I want you to listen to me. I gave that one woman one job and that woman gave me 21 million jobs, not a bad deal if I do say so myself."

It's called the technological revolution of the 1990's. Do you have any idea how much Clinton benefited from that? And he had no hand in it.

Dems succeed in creating jobs. The GOP succeeds in helping biz reduce labor costs. This is what the respective parties do. Yet if someone points out the actual numbers, Republican dupes cry like babies.

So, when the next tech revolution happens (since it's Friday night and everyone's happy, I'll call it for late this year or early next), the Bushies will say "hooraytaxcutGAAARBL", the Obamanites (myself included, probably) will say "hooray[]GAAARBL", hopefully we'll have learned something.

// I hope I'll have gotten TF by then, but I'd need a D cup or better

GaryPDX: Partisans! Sling your arrows at one another from now until the end of time if you like, or you could heed George Washington's warnings. This econopacalypse is at least 40 years in the making. Buy now!!, pay whenever, can't? bail out, welfare..rinse repeat.

Tis a fun Merry-Go-Round.

Wise words from the least partisan poster on Far...

I'm sorry, I can't do it.

Barricaded Gunman: Oh, that's right.


Stop drinking the Kool Aid.

assgasket: Clinton got lucky in that there was a revolution in business that happened to occur while he was President. Despite the fact that he tried to kill it with tax hikes, it happened anyway.
=====================

Bush issued tax cuts like a madman and had a net gain of 1/3 the amount Clinton was able to generate with tax increases.

So instead of ackowledging that maybe you're wrong you say it's a quirk?

HA!

Social democracy is looking good now, isn't it?

Didn't I just see a link somewhere that said the "population of Wisconsin"-worth of jobs has been axed?

ClemsonChili: Ah, so it's an excuse because you don't accept it. Ooookay.

I accept it, but it is a lame excuse. It's economics there are booms and recessions

pain is only getting worse with 11 million Americans out of work

Wow. That's more people than we have in prison.

Phil Herup: How many were lost when the Clinton bubble popped?

Leave Monica out of this.

GaryPDX: Partisans! Sling your arrows at one another from now until the end of time if you like, or you could heed George Washington's warnings. This econopacalypse is at least 40 years in the making. Buy now!!, pay whenever, can't? bail out, welfare..rinse repeat.

Tis a fun Merry-Go-Round.


Well, I confess I am shocked, Gary. That was almost funny. Good job!

I can't believe Subby passed over the very obvious Monica joke.

arkansas: This all started with Reagan spending wild
Bush just kept the button held down
It continued with Clinton just letting everyone par-tay
Bush continued to let everyone par-tay AND went spending wild

A whole lot of Barney Franks and Larry Craigs helped out a lot too.

This is an equal opportunity debacle built up over a couple of decades.

so this is the fault of teh gheys?

Blow jobs do not count

wait

did any get SOLD

did their checks clear

Sep 2008 was the just when we realized that the 40-year party was over, everyone else had left and we were stuck with the bill.

/only gets bumpier from here...

Well if Cheney was anything like Al Gore, then the useless farker could have invented another Internet -> another round of job creation.

In all seriousness, you can't give any president the credit for the personal computing/internet boom. You want to thank someone, thank the engineers.

Please don't misunderstand. Bush was a horrible, horrible failure as a president. But Clinton got pretty lucky with his timing.