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(Contact Music) Cool The Stanglers frontman Hugh Cornwell supports illegal downloading and finds Metallica's legal action against Napster "silly": "All these years, people have been ripped off"   (contactmusic.com) divider line 29
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Beatle_Matt [TotalFark] 2009-01-09 01:21:55 PM  
"Stranglers"

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2009-01-09 02:33:18 PM  
Subby should be stangled.

 
Epsilon [TotalFark] 2009-01-09 02:53:39 PM  
Before clicking on the article I sat here wondering who the hell The Stanglers are, and why I've never heard of them.

 
Procedural Texture [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-01-09 03:55:32 PM  
It's like a Midnight Summer Dream of refreshing honesty.

 
sonicfluid 2009-01-09 04:58:15 PM  
No wonder my submissions keep getting rejected, there just isn't enough room what with all this exciting music news that was relevant 8 years ago.

 
wilde_at_heart 2009-01-09 05:02:59 PM  
Nice. They're one of my favourite bands of all time.

Epsilon
Before clicking on the article I sat here wondering who the hell The Stanglers are, and why I've never heard of them.


Probably cause they peaked over 20 years ago. They were never that big commercially, particularly in the US; they were better known in Canada and the UK. Their 'biggest' album was back in 1985 - Aural Sculpture, with songs like Skin Deep or No Mercy. My favourite album though, is The Raven.

It depends on what you like, of course. If your tastes run more gangsta rap or heavy metal they probably won't be your thing and that alone would explain why they flew under your radar, but if you like early 80s keyboard-heavy but kind of dark music then you might like them.

/though subby, he hadn't been with the band for a long long time now...
/or download the song Men In Black if you want to hear something really farked up...

 
degreeless 2009-01-09 05:21:57 PM  
i240.photobucket.com

/approves

 
Architecture Of Aggression 2009-01-09 05:58:16 PM  
Metallica's (for those that don't generalize: Lars') actions against Napster were completely silly. Lars got pissed, opened his mouth, and because of all that reckless bullshiat, internet downloading is what it is today. Even though Lars put the spotlight on it in the worst way, he still got the spotlight there when nobody else was. Yes he's a goofball, yes he was being ridiculous, and yes even the retards smashing their CDs (or what I like to call "things I payed good money for") on the street were also stupid.

we learned a lot from how stupid people can be, as usual, and because of those actions, regardless of how silly, things are great now. You can buy DRM music anywhere if you're some sort of weirdo, you can buy DRM free music many places, you can find almost every bit of music you need on the internet whether you plan on paying for it or not. In addition to that, Metallica.com offers a service with shiat loads (not sure of the exact number) of live shows (even ones from the 80s so you can just download those and still pretend to be cool online) and plenty of professional content to turn those mp3s in to albums sitting on your shelf. Because of downloading, waves and waves of new music are being discovered all around the world and music of all kinds are more obtainable now than ever before, no matter how special people feel making a declaration there there is no more good music or that rock is dead.

Bands are streaming their albums online, offering up free downloads, and some big bands are releasing content for free (radiohead, nin) if you choose instead of buying them, and the stupid music industry is falling apart around a ton of a people that are gonna be able to promote their music themselves for almost nothing. Things aren't there yet and obviously Reznor wouldn't sell ten million without his previous exposure, but things are getting there and things are looking good for music.

there are some bumps in the road, sometimes even a strangely proportioned danish bump with lots of cash and a big mouth, but everything that's happened has made for an amazing turn of events in how the entire industry works, and I'm a fan of that.

 
J13P 2009-01-09 06:05:13 PM  
set the stage... metalica albums had been going number one for years. then they release S&M -which was a symphony record. Now i dont know how many of your friends listen to metalica...but my friends who go to their concerts aren't exactly into the symphony.

So the album comes out, and although the album eventually sold some copies- it was a label flop. It costs alot of money to get a symphony-AND pay them royalties. it didnt go number one... and lars the cry baby (see Monsters) goes nuts and decides to sue napster.

now they release crappy metal records... i cant wait till they retire..

all together now...

FARK METALICA!

 
Architecture Of Aggression 2009-01-09 06:13:50 PM  
it's funny because I halfway agree with that, but the other half of me (my brain, not my asshole) sometimes forces me to think about things and understand that at a deeper level than just saying what every single person on the internet has said for the past 10 years.

These kind of comments remind me of the tired "their first 5 albums were totally killer bra" bullshiat that people like to say in order to feel cool. I'm assuming these people didn't listen to the black album. The self titled, bland, uninspired 180 of an album that completely dumped every bit of feel that got them to where they were at the time. Load and Reload are great albums, but not good Metallica albums. I'm glad that music exists but it bums me out to know (especially after hearing the follow up to ReLoad, Death Magnetic) that they spent so much time focusing on that kind of music. Their new album blows me away and most of the time, the people that don't like it are people that love the black album.

regardless of how little some people are able to think for themselves, regardless of Metallica does in the future or how Lars tried to molest the internet in a Spielberg/Lucas fashion back in the 90s, it's good to know that finally after 11 years, we got a new disc of Metallica music that didn't make us go "is this really metallica?", even if we didn't like the whole thing.

 
browntimmy 2009-01-09 06:22:07 PM  
Hmm, I wonder what my garbageman thinks of this nine year old news. I'll be sure to post it to Fark when I find out.

 
Texas with a Dollarsign 2009-01-09 06:23:39 PM  
i75.photobucket.com

WTF? Did I time-travel back to 2001?

/If so, must patent idea for iPhone...

 
Jibblit 2009-01-09 06:27:57 PM  
Just came here to say Golden Brown is a great song. Those unfamiliar with this band will remember this song from Snatch:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHBUGvAUMo (pops)

I'm assuming the song is about heroin, but it sure treated SWIM (someone who isn't me) well on psychedelics a few years ago.

 
ertznay 2009-01-09 06:39:50 PM  
Hmm, I wonder what my garbageman thinks of this nine year old news. I'll be sure to post it to Fark when I find out.
Was wondering what the Tower Records drape was doing there.

 
barneyfifesbullet 2009-01-09 06:47:41 PM  
Have the people that never pay money for anything started lecturing about business models yet?

 
HappyHarryHardOn [TotalFark] 2009-01-09 09:04:02 PM  
so The Stranglers already forgotten, uh?



As far as Metallica goes, the moment of death for me was seeing Lars personally delivering his little cart of boxes up Napster's office.... those are your fans dude.... what an arsehole

 
bagb8709 2009-01-09 09:33:02 PM  
yeah this guy's about a decade late with his opinion

 
Bauhaus 2009-01-09 09:58:41 PM  
I saw them last year, wilde_at_heart:

Probably cause they peaked over 20 years ago. They were never that big commercially, particularly in the US; they were better known in Canada and the UK. Their 'biggest' album was back in 1985 - Aural Sculpture, with songs like Skin Deep or No Mercy. My favourite album though, is The Raven.




Great albums. I even liked Dreamtime even though they were fairly pedestrian at that point. Norfolk Coast wasn't bad.

/Punk Rock with Organs FTW

 
whatshisname 2009-01-09 10:26:43 PM  
Bauhaus: I saw them last year....Norfolk Coast wasn't bad.


Cornwell hasn't been with them for years.
Norfolk Coast was surprisingly good, even without Hugh.

They were a great band and I still listen to my old vinyl.

 
SynthLord 2009-01-09 10:38:31 PM  
United Artists should subject the same laws and penalties on this moron as stores do retail clerks who tell customers to shoplift.

ADVICE: If you believe people should have your music for free, don't contract with a record company, moron.

 
Lord Snoopy's G.P.E.H. 2009-01-09 10:52:42 PM  
Hugh Cornwell.
Thanks, I practice whenever I can.

 
danduran 2009-01-10 12:20:04 AM  
21 posts in, and am I going to be the first person to point out Metallica did not try to sue anyone for downloading released material, and it was in fact stolen, unfinished material which prompted the lawsuit?

 
mrEdude 2009-01-10 12:21:21 AM  
goddam right i paid for every Stranglers mp3 by purchasing albums and cds in the past

at crazy industry prices
during the seventies and eighties and nineties and beyond


i give my own music away for free
(ultimate psychedelic single of all time)
so naturally i expect everyone else to lay down their cards
and let x equal x

 
whatshisname 2009-01-10 01:11:05 AM  
I downloaded his latest, "Hoover Dam".(Which is the whole reason he made this statement - so you'll download his new album)

He uses the Stranglers cursive font for his name on the album cover, and it sounds a lot like the Stranglers, sans keyboards. I'm not very impressed.

 
King Something [TotalFark] 2009-01-10 03:53:35 AM  
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pureobscure 2009-01-10 12:14:06 PM  
Strange -- he looks younger now than he did in the mid 80s.

 
slipperyrockdawg 2009-01-10 06:57:50 PM  
img150.imageshack.us

 
gdarb 2009-01-11 02:18:52 AM  
Kind of funny, since, if I remember correctly, the Stanglers were among the recording artists back in the 1980's who were on the whole "home taping is killing the music industry" bandwagon... (if anyone remembers that... there was a skull logo that was a cassette with cross bones underneath...found an example here http://www.mondotees.com/ProductImages/Decals/D0727B.jpg).

Still have my Stranglers vynil...
The Raven and Black and White were great albums...

 
shirtsbyeric 2009-01-11 08:11:17 AM  
I remember the whole home taping thing. I always though but, how am I gonna listen in my car? Friends and I would trade tapes and I would go buy the albums if it was any good.

 
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